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That was a great speech. Trump

The VOICE committee got some growns, even by me at first reaction. It'll probably be twisted into racism, but he did a good job turning it into a powerful moment.

The only critique I can make is he should have called it ACA instead of ObamaCare. Obama constantly criticized Bush, that's beneath the office. Don't lump it on the man, lump it on it's failures.
 
The VOICE committee got some growns, even by me at first reaction. It'll probably be twisted into racism, but he did a good job turning it into a powerful moment.

The only critique I can make is he should have called it ACA instead of ObamaCare. Obama constantly criticized Bush, that's beneath the office. Don't lump it on the man, lump it on it's failures.
Obama himself referred to it as Obamacare.
 
shame that the majority of libs don't have enough smarts to know that everything he said is good for our nation
 
shame that the majority of libs don't have enough smarts to know that everything he said is good for our nation

They do know......that's the problem they have with it. Prosperity and growth leads to personal independence and increased individual responsibility. Hallmarks for a society that render them powerless.

This speech transitioned the US from 8 years of "hope and smoke" division to "growth and prosperity" vision. The Dems anger last night showed once again....who they really are. Petulant arrogant agitators who care nothing but the maintaining of their own power elitism over all others.
 
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Calling it the affordable care act polls better than calling it Obamacare

this

he needs to say "affordable" and use that big Trump emphasis like he does with "China". treat "Obama" like Voldemort. never mention his name again. just remind everybody how "affordable" the care act is.
 
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It's sad that so many of you are trumpeting a speech that was very similar to what any other politician would have made, except this one had no substance behind it or plans on how he was going to do it.

Deplorables accept "trust me, just trust me" and claims that he knows more about ISIS than all of his generals as gospel.

His speech was a typical, average speech you get from a politician. Due to his history of atrocious comments, behavior, and illogical rants, a very basic speech is now claimed to be amazing. Why? We have dropped our standards extremely low for him, just like his approval ratings.
 
Speaking of terrible speeches, the Dem rebuttal was beyond pathetic. The smart thing would have been for the Dems to counter the POTUS with Perez, not some retired guy whose own state embraced Trump. Considering how many Dems aren't holding seats since Obama got elected, I guess this was the Dems version of a throw-back jersey.
 
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It's sad that so many of you are trumpeting a speech that was very similar to what any other politician would have made, except this one had no substance behind it or plans on how he was going to do it.

Deplorables accept "trust me, just trust me" and claims that he knows more about ISIS than all of his generals as gospel.

His speech was a typical, average speech you get from a politician. Due to his history of atrocious comments, behavior, and illogical rants, a very basic speech is now claimed to be amazing. Why? We have dropped our standards extremely low for him, just like his approval ratings.

And there's your talking points, folks.
 
It's sad that so many of you are trumpeting a speech that was very similar to what any other politician would have made, except this one had no substance behind it or plans on how he was going to do it.

Deplorables accept "trust me, just trust me" and claims that he knows more about ISIS than all of his generals as gospel.

His speech was a typical, average speech you get from a politician. Due to his history of atrocious comments, behavior, and illogical rants, a very basic speech is now claimed to be amazing. Why? We have dropped our standards extremely low for him, just like his approval ratings.

Yep. Libs mad...because they actually thought it would be a ranting racist bigoted speech because that's what the media told you to expect.

Please share with us an example of when a speech to Congress has ever offered "specifics" to policies?
 
Yep. Libs mad...because they actually thought it would be a ranting racist bigoted speech because that's what the media told you to expect.

It has nothing to do with the media and everything to do with listening to what he has said before his campaign, during his campaign, and after the election (which he is still, strangely, in campaign mode). Speaking of which, why does he send multiple emails per week begging for donations? It is unbelievable; a sitting president two months after taking office is sending emails from his official website trying to peddle merchandise and plead for donations.


Please share with us an example of when a speech to Congress has ever offered "specifics" to policies?

Obama had at least one. But that is the point. You guys are raving about some stellar speech when it was a basic, generalized political speech that we witness many times each year. The only reason many of you think it was anything other than average is because we all have lowered expectations for trump based on his previous words, actions, and speeches.

On a related note, I can't be the only one on here who was uncomfortable with a 2:30 minute ovation focused on the widow. That was painful. Hell, the deceased's parents wouldn't even meet with trump. I guess the painfully uncomfortable ovation isn't as bad as verbally attacking the family of a fallen soldier, so again, due to what we are used to with trump, it is an improvement.
 
It has nothing to do with the media and everything to do with listening to what he has said before his campaign, during his campaign, and after the election (which he is still, strangely, in campaign mode). Speaking of which, why does he send multiple emails per week begging for donations? It is unbelievable; a sitting president two months after taking office is sending emails from his official website trying to peddle merchandise and plead for donations.




Obama had at least one. But that is the point. You guys are raving about some stellar speech when it was a basic, generalized political speech that we witness many times each year. The only reason many of you think it was anything other than average is because we all have lowered expectations for trump based on his previous words, actions, and speeches.

On a related note, I can't be the only one on here who was uncomfortable with a 2:30 minute ovation focused on the widow. That was painful. Hell, the deceased's parents wouldn't even meet with trump. I guess the painfully uncomfortable ovation isn't as bad as verbally attacking the family of a fallen soldier, so again, due to what we are used to with trump, it is an improvement.
get a load of this guy....
 
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Where you guys been the last 8 years?


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You know the Dem rebuttal was garbage when members from MSNBC, HuffPo, CNN, etc... are panning it.
 
how very convenient of you to post a graph that forgot to mark election night and the subsequent "Trump Surge" that we are still experiencing.

also of note, look what happened when ACA started to tank...

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It has nothing to do with the media and everything to do with listening to what he has said before his campaign, during his campaign, and after the election (which he is still, strangely, in campaign mode). Speaking of which, why does he send multiple emails per week begging for donations? It is unbelievable; a sitting president two months after taking office is sending emails from his official website trying to peddle merchandise and plead for donations.




Obama had at least one. But that is the point. You guys are raving about some stellar speech when it was a basic, generalized political speech that we witness many times each year. The only reason many of you think it was anything other than average is because we all have lowered expectations for trump based on his previous words, actions, and speeches.

On a related note, I can't be the only one on here who was uncomfortable with a 2:30 minute ovation focused on the widow. That was painful. Hell, the deceased's parents wouldn't even meet with trump. I guess the painfully uncomfortable ovation isn't as bad as verbally attacking the family of a fallen soldier, so again, due to what we are used to with trump, it is an improvement.

Uhhhhhh, you must be new to politics. Sitting presidents solicit for donations all the time. I even got a few solicitations from the Obummer campaign following his inauguration. He never stopped soliciting for donations. His foundation is still panhandling for $$$.

"Obama had at least one".
I really don't recall any specifics from any of his joint session speeches either. (You're complaining about no specifics from a Prez that's been in office for 1 month and can only remember 1 from a guy who was in office for 8 years? Probably not your best effort) Unless you're counting Obummer's usual rants on "fair share" or "you can keep your doctor and your plan", that's about as specific as you get. Frankly, there is never a reason to criticize a president for not giving a policy "specific" in a 1 hour joint session speech spanning multiple policy initiatives or changes. It's not the time and place.

I didn't really sit there with a stop watch counting the seconds during the widows acknowledgement. Appeared the whole room (except for a few pouting Dems) continued to clap unabated as well. I too read the news articles quoting the deceased Seals father. Unfortunately, it appears he should be asking Obumma why the mission was needed. The planning and rehearsal for the mission was conducted months prior to Trump even being elected and would most likely have never been known had the mission transpired without a casualty regardless of who the president was/is. (That's sort of what Seals do on a daily basis).
 
No, one month vs 8 years is NOT a fairer representation of the dow under the 2 presidents.
 
even a dishonest cabinet maker should be able to see the difference in a gain of 3,000 points since Trump's election (3 months) vs a gain of 8,000 points over a 6 year period.

Even an atheist should be able to see that a gain of 13,000 is greater than 3,000.
 
Even an atheist should be able to see that a gain of 13,000 is greater than 3,000.

why are you giving Obama credit for the market explosion after election night? how is that fair? what policy did he put in place during that time frame to cause said market explosion?
 
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It has nothing to do with the media

It has everything to do with the media, and what they decide to hyper bold. Case in point: A Tribe Called Quest (who's artistry I actually respect and enjoy) kept referring to Trump during their Grammy performance as "Agent Orange" Not a peep from the mainstream media... Can you imagine if a country artist or southern rock band had referred to Obama as "President Khaki", We would still be hearing about it 3 weeks later..
 
Uhhhhhh, you must be new to politics. Sitting presidents solicit for donations all the time. I even got a few solicitations from the Obummer campaign following his inauguration. He never stopped soliciting for donations. His foundation is still panhandling for $$$.

Presidents will solicit funds for a reelection campaign or for their general party fund. trump is peddling merchandise for his own pockets after claiming he was only using his money for his campaign. I am sure you can see the difference.


I really don't recall any specifics from any of his joint session speeches either. (You're complaining about no specifics from a Prez that's been in office for 1 month and can only remember 1 from a guy who was in office for 8 years? Probably not your best effort) Unless you're counting Obummer's usual rants on "fair share" or "you can keep your doctor and your plan", that's about as specific as you get. Frankly, there is never a reason to criticize a president for not giving a policy "specific" in a 1 hour joint session speech spanning multiple policy initiatives or changes. It's not the time and place.

He has never given specifics for any of his promises and claims! That is why it was so comical to vehemently support him. His "trust me, trust me," and "I am really smart" comments were as deep as he went. That's why he has to make comments like "nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated." He is so out of his league that he doesn't even know what he doesn't know.


I didn't really sit there with a stop watch counting the seconds during the widows acknowledgement. Appeared the whole room (except for a few pouting Dems) continued to clap unabated as well.

Yes, that is how it works. When the president claps, they all do. When the president stops clapping, so does everyone else within a couple of seconds. When the president pauses, he is soliciting an applause. He could have clapped for five minutes and everyone else would have followed for five minutes.

I guess real heroes don't get caught, but real heroes do get killed. Isn't that trump's belief?
 
It has everything to do with the media, and what they decide to hyper bold. Case in point: A Tribe Called Quest (who's artistry I actually respect and enjoy) kept referring to Trump during their Grammy performance as "Agent Orange" Not a peep from the mainstream media... Can you imagine if a country artist or southern rock band had referred to Obama as "President Khaki", We would still be hearing about it 3 weeks later..

Yes, because mocking a guy who purposely changes the color of his skin is the same as mocking a guy who is born with that skin color.
 
why are you giving Obama credit for the market explosion after election night? how is that fair? what policy did he put in place during that time frame to cause said market explosion?

Because obama was STILL THE PRESIDENT.
What policy did cheetos implement on election night?
 
Hope and change=MAGA

We'll see. He'll have to maintain or lower the unemployment rate, add about 13,000 to the DOW, provide a healthcare plan equal to or better than obamacare, create 11 million or more jobs (5.5 million in 4 years).
 
It's sad that so many of you are trumpeting a speech that was very similar to what any other politician would have made, except this one had no substance behind it or plans on how he was going to do it.

Deplorables accept "trust me, just trust me" and claims that he knows more about ISIS than all of his generals as gospel.

His speech was a typical, average speech you get from a politician. Due to his history of atrocious comments, behavior, and illogical rants, a very basic speech is now claimed to be amazing. Why? We have dropped our standards extremely low for him, just like his approval ratings.
It was a good speech regardless.

Don't be a sore loser
 
It started off decent, then I passed out from the NyQuil I took a little bit before it began.
 
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