Its obvious, SamC, when an EER's sister-wife cuts him off, he wanders over to a Herd board. Just part of their inbred lifestyle, I guess!!
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Its obvious, SamC, when an EER's sister-wife cuts him off, he wanders over to a Herd board. Just part of their inbred lifestyle, I guess!!
I think this will be a trend across the board. With ESPN losing money hand over fist and Disney cutting them back, a lot of money is going to dry up. I don't see how WVU (or really any other smaller P5) is going to maintain an athletic budget of nearly $100MM. IMHO
On average, attendance has been on a 4 year down turn at most sporting events. The public is tired of the over hype, exorbitant ticket prices, and putting kids on pedestals. Overkill.
Attendance is down because people can now sit in front of their 50 inch TV and watch about 8 games at least on Saturdays and even more if you can watch on your TV, phone, and tablets
Sam,
just wondering how you evaluate the FOX / Big Ten deal......the $250 million / per year is the biggest TV deal in the history of College Sports for one conference, AND it for only one-half of the package!!!!!! Big Ten is now negotiating with ESPN for the other half, and don't be surprised if CBS or Turner or even NBC from what I'm hearing step up with a sizeable offer and better ESPN's offer.
This deal with FOX "shook" and shocked the industry!!! Look for the other P5's to ask their partners to reopen their contracts based on a new market standard. The price of sitting at the poker table just went up dramatically!!
I'm very interested on how you analyzed this to come to your conclusion!! The 6 year term was a little surprising given Fox's position with the Big Ten Network, but otherwise the yearly value of the deal will be off the charts!!!
Your assessment of AAC probable fortunes in the next negotiation is based much more on your dislike for the league than any reality. They will likely enjoy a major increase in revenue in the next negotiation, EVEN if they lose 2 schools as many believe will happen this summer. G5 deals are being depressed, no doubt, by the sheer size of the P5 rights, but the AAC will grow their deal........ keep this assessment on your computer and feel free to reference it in 2020
I just have no idea how this economy sustains itself. The contracts keep proliferating, but the two sources that generate that revenue - advertising and viewer subscription - are declining. At some point, its going to collapse, or viewers are going to find themselves paying outrageous direct subscription rates to sustain the TV rights dollars schools will expect going forward.
Of course I'm sure government subsidy will cover the difference if that happens. P5 AD budgets only move in one direction.
Of course I'm sure government subsidy will cover the difference if that happens. P5 AD budgets only move in one direction.
Shoe, I am not an industry insider. I just know what I read in the financial papers and the broadcast papers say that it was way below what they wanted and expected to get. I don't know. If you say different, then there we go. Most analyists had a different opinion.
I do think there is something to all of this a la carte and cord cutter stuff. I am no completely sold on it, but there is something to it. Fact is the old model was pretty simple and pretty lucrative for Disney. "Everybody" has cable (dish, whatever) and "everybody" paid huge $$ for ESPN (and now its immitators). But, really there are lots of people who just don't like sports at all. Given their druthers lots of people would simply rather pay $30 less and not have any sports channels. Now IF (huge if, probably the largest if in the broadcast business there is, truly a multi-billion $ if) a new model can be made to work, then there simply is a lot less $$ coming in the door at Disney, et al, and thus a lot less passing back out to the leagues, conferences, and pro players. That is the main reason ESPN has been cutting out a lot of its dead weight, on both sides of the camera.
Now, as to the AAC, I have no "hate" of it. I don't like its arrogant and idiocy spewing commissioner. Arguing your case is one thing, saying things so d*** dumb that you lose all crediability is another and this is where the AAC management is. And I don't like the people that fall for its act that it is something more than just another of the G5. Including those who try to extrapolate a single game in October into 10000X more than it was. CUSA, the AAC and the MWC are more or less the same, with the other two a step or two behind. That is reality.
As to TV, IF (and remember what I said about the size of that if) things are in a downward spiral for ESPN, et al, then, IMHO, this is where the AAC (and even moreso the MAC) have a fatal flaw. They have sold their soul to TV. Playing on random weeknights has just killed their live gate (to the extent they had one in the first place). And, like it or not, fact is there is not an AAC team that is even the most popular team in their own town. That is just a fact, like it or not. UC does not = the Cincy DMA like OSU = the Columbus DMA (in fact, OSU probably has 1000 fans in Cincy for every 1 UC does). It just is what it is. It seems to me that the AAC's value (say the same for the MAC) to ESPN is for a quite short time period. From the end of regular season baseball thru Thanksgiving. That is 8 or 10 weeknights to fill. Some sharp pencil guy has to sit down, and with less $$ coming in, decide if they really want to pay this crowd for X rating when they could get Y rating for esentually nothing with midnight poker or 30 for30. X - Y = a figure, and i suspect it really is not that much, given the fanless nature of the AAC in its local markets, the low # of viewers who are at home on Fridays, and the NFL now completly taking over Thursdays.
In any event, the AAC is losing two teams? I could be a smarta** and ask why anyone would want to move from one of the "Power 6" as conf. HQ says it is, to another, but I won't. So Texas and Oklahoma are looking to add two more cupcakes to the box? If I am them, I don't see why you don't look at BYU and, if this Raiders deal comes through, UNLV, before any of these fanless teams. But that is a discussion for another day. All I hope that if the AAC does lose teams, MH has the sense to have Arseco escorted off University property when he brings his snake oil by.
I do think there is something to all of this a la carte and cord cutter stuff. I am no completely sold on it, but there is something to it. Fact is the old model was pretty simple and pretty lucrative for Disney. "Everybody" has cable (dish, whatever) and "everybody" paid huge $$ for ESPN (and now its immitators). But, really there are lots of people who just don't like sports at all. Given their druthers lots of people would simply rather pay $30 less and not have any sports channels. Now IF (huge if, probably the largest if in the broadcast business there is, truly a multi-billion $ if) a new model can be made to work, then there simply is a lot less $$ coming in the door at Disney, et al, and thus a lot less passing back out to the leagues, conferences, and pro players. That is the main reason ESPN has been cutting out a lot of its dead weight, on both sides of the camera.
Now, as to the AAC, I have no "hate" of it. I don't like its arrogant and idiocy spewing commissioner. Arguing your case is one thing, saying things so d*** dumb that you lose all crediability is another and this is where the AAC management is. And I don't like the people that fall for its act that it is something more than just another of the G5. Including those who try to extrapolate a single game in October into 10000X more than it was. CUSA, the AAC and the MWC are more or less the same, with the other two a step or two behind. That is reality.
As to TV, IF (and remember what I said about the size of that if) things are in a downward spiral for ESPN, et al, then, IMHO, this is where the AAC (and even moreso the MAC) have a fatal flaw. They have sold their soul to TV. Playing on random weeknights has just killed their live gate (to the extent they had one in the first place). And, like it or not, fact is there is not an AAC team that is even the most popular team in their own town. That is just a fact, like it or not. UC does not = the Cincy DMA like OSU = the Columbus DMA (in fact, OSU probably has 1000 fans in Cincy for every 1 UC does). It just is what it is. It seems to me that the AAC's value (say the same for the MAC) to ESPN is for a quite short time period. From the end of regular season baseball thru Thanksgiving. That is 8 or 10 weeknights to fill. Some sharp pencil guy has to sit down, and with less $$ coming in, decide if they really want to pay this crowd for X rating when they could get Y rating for esentually nothing with midnight poker or 30 for30. X - Y = a figure, and i suspect it really is not that much, given the fanless nature of the AAC in its local markets, the low # of viewers who are at home on Fridays, and the NFL now completly taking over Thursdays.
In any event, the AAC is losing two teams? I could be a smarta** and ask why anyone would want to move from one of the "Power 6" as conf. HQ says it is, to another, but I won't. So Texas and Oklahoma are looking to add two more cupcakes to the box? If I am them, I don't see why you don't look at BYU and, if this Raiders deal comes through, UNLV, before any of these fanless teams. But that is a discussion for another day. All I hope that if the AAC does lose teams, MH has the sense to have Arseco escorted off University property when he brings his snake oil by.
Is it that easy for the other P5 conferences to break their contracts based solely on a competitor getting a much larger deal?
Is Turner now looking to get into the College Football world?
Couple of things here: Virtually all (if not all) of the P5 Media Rights contracts now contain "look-in" or re-opener clauses that can be triggered by certain events and are "regularly scheduled. This was done due to the lengths of some of the deals. Example: The SEC rights payments were "renegotiated" when the league added members and when the value of the ACC deal went up. So, those conferences would not be breaking their contracts, they would instead be exercising their option to "look-in" on the deal they are under and possibly re-open negotiations on certain covenants of the deal.
Turner has been in and out before, but they love their NCAA Basketball deal, and yes, given the right opportunity would be interested in CFB
Sam,
I always enjoy your posts (I know that will shock some), they are almost always well though out and researched. I take opposition sometimes with your logic and I think you frequently let your emotions get a little too much control of you fingers when you type, but you generally have a much deeper understanding and broader knowledge of the issues than many/most who post here. That said:
Mike Aresco is a wonderfully nice and professional man and is doing a great job for his league, no need to berate him for doing exactly what he is paid to do. I've known Mike for years and he doesn't deserve the overt criticism, you (or I) can disagree with him, but it just isn't fair to be so personally critical of someone who is doing his job as well as Mike is doing it.
The AAC is likely to lose 2 teams, no doubt, Cincy is almost a lock: I had lunch in Dallas a couple of weeks ago with one of the Assoc Commissioners of the Big 12 and while expansion is not a lock, it is very much on the front burner now and is likely. What is the driver? Well you can guess--television and money. The Big 12 understands that they need additional revenue streams to "keep up", especially in light of the new "MONSTER" deal at the Big Ten, which will grow further before it is all signed and sealed. Their best bet is a Big XII Network.... look for that to happen along with the addition of 2 schools. Now why Cincy? The Big 12 footprint is the least cable penetrated area of the country overall in comparison with the other P5's, so any additions will take that into consideration, Ohio is one of the most cable penetrated large states in the nation and therefore an obvious choice for consideration, Cincy meets that tests. The Big 12 is also aware of its need to come East, WVU is on an island with respect to travel and timezone, Cincy helps meet that test. U Cincy has also done a GREAT job of marketing itself to the rest of the league. Now the big question -- who is team 2. Several schools have their supporters, in no particular order:
Houston (the choice of my lunch partner)
SMU
Memphis
UConn
UCF
ECU
So Florida
all have some level of "dog in the hunt".
Back to the drivers: Houston and SMU don't meet the test of adding additional cable homes for a network because Big 12 already "owns" Texas in that respect. They don't represent a move east either.
Memphis enjoys some support (I had an hour long phone call with new BB coach there Tubby Smith yesterday and it was definitely on his mind) but they fall a bit short on the "drivers" side as well, although ahead of the Texas option. ECU- almost no chance (my opinion). UCF/So Fla, attractive from a recruiting standpoint, large growing universities in the Sough EAST in heavily cabled markets....... very possible.
Leader in the Clubhouse: UConn: While I know many will debate my next statement-- they bring coveted NY City to the mix (before someone want to argue that point: one of the last deals I oversaw at ESPN before I retired from there was the media rights deal for local UConn rights to SNY cable net....... price tag for local rights, you ask, just barely south of CUSA's new deal, and just for their local rights only in NYC. So in the all important "drivers" test, UConn stands out, head an shoulders above the pack. Now, before someone points out that we beat them in a bowl, relax--everyone knows that and its not a factor. And a nice bonus, they have a great BBall program that would really compliment the BBall in Big 12 and they along with UCincy solve the WVU problem.
Even if the AAC loses 2 members, it will remain mover viable than any other G5 and not less than 2 members of CUSA are actively (make that ACTIVELY) courting them for membership. As evidenced by one CUSA AD that I sat with at the AAC BBall tournament and acknowledged such.
Other random comments on your post: ESPN nor Fox are in death spirals, the model for cable sports is changing, for sure, but both will survive nicely and adjust to the changing landscape. Virtually ALL industry analysts (including those who wrote and analyzed the "dire" consequences of cable cutting now almost unanimously agree they overstated and over reacted. ESPN has issues, for sure and they are in the process of addressing those, they will be fine, particularly in the short term.
Your observations on schools not "owning" their markets, while right on the money, simply isn't a consideration when concerned with cable penetration and building a "channel"...... its much more about wired homes than about viewers..... that's the cable model.
There are other factors at play too that will wait for another time, but they include scheduling issues, likely changes to scholarship and transfer rules, etc., but many conferences right now are on the bigger is better bandwagon.
Shoe, great info.
As to Arseco, I just don't buy the guy. To me it is the difference between a good lawyer and, depending on your generation, the North Korean news reporters, Bagdad Bob, or the old Russian commie peace movement guys. Rusty Hardin is a great lawyer. He argues for his client. A great an honorable thing to do. I want him on my side should the need arise and I could afford him. Saying things that are just unbelievably fantastic is, IMHO, a different thing.
As to the rest. I will take your word for it that the Big 12 is expanding. That the Longhorn Network model is a failure is not a shock to me.
And I agree that "the cable model" is that you just zap "everybody" in, in this context, a conference's supposed market (with a far lower cost elsewhere). It usually works, although there are plenty of ones that have or are failing (Mountain West channel, T-W's single team ultra-expensive channels for the Lakers and the Dodgers, the Royals, Astros, and White Sox's failed channels, SportsTime Ohio, others. The "Billion $ IF" is, of course, how valid the "cable model" is, today, in five years, and in 10 years.
But assuming "the cable model" still works, obviously, the current Big 12 states will bend over (or better put, force their customers to bend over) and pay up. That includes WV because it will get included in an overall Comcast deal, although given the choice Comcast's Huntington customers (about their only outlet in this half of the state) would pass.
But out of your list, none of the Texas teams seem to add anything. If the "cable model" is just to sell everybody in Texas a B12N at a high in-market rate, then what does more Texas teams bring to the table?
ECU is a non-starter. I never met an ECU fan who did not go there or live in the immediate (quite poor) area. You going to hit up people in the Piedmont for ECU? Good luck.
The directional Floridas seem like a challenge too. They just don't have the fans, and you are adding a heck of a lot to their bills (they already pay in market for both the SEC and ACC, and the whole state pays for both MLB teams, and lots of people pay for out-of-market access to their pre-retirement teams). People are really going to pay for USF or UCF statewide in Florida? Even along the I-4 corridor, I doubt it.
But Cincy? Really? Cincy? What would Cincy consider its "market". The Cincy DMA? Even the Kentucky side? Dayton DMA? Certainly not more than that? Nobody in Cleveland, Columbus, Toledo, or, for that matter, Chesapeake, is going to be happy with paying in-state for the B12N because of Cincy.
Cincy is certainly not better than 4th in its own DMA (of which a substantial part live south of the Ohio), after OSU, UK, and UND.
The point is that Cincy likely will deliver the entire state in a cable model network, forget about their actual position in their own market. Remember too, they would be playing Texas, OK, KU, KSU, WVU, TCU etc., and their following would increase with the quantum leap in schedule quality. All of the sudden too, OSU v Cincy (as in Ohio State) becomes a great in-state game for OSU pitting a Big XII vs. a Big Ten.
The bigger issue for Marshall fans is that defections from the AAC would likely strip CUSA of two of its more attractive members and make no mistake about this..... no less than 4 of its membership is auditioning currently (or trying to) and several others are dusting off their resumes....... a couple haven't even had time for their resumes to gather dust.
The bigger issue for Marshall fans is that defections from the AAC would likely strip CUSA of two of its more attractive members and make no mistake about this..... no less than 4 of its membership is auditioning currently (or trying to) and several others are dusting off their resumes....... a couple haven't even had time for their resumes to gather dust.
I would have to imagine Southern Miss would be at the top of the AAC's wishlist and would jump at an invite if UCONN and UC leave.
I would think La Tech would be attractive, too. Although they already have a presence in LA with Tulane.
Who else would the AAC want? WKU? They're very similar to us in just about every way.
I know Charlotte has grand plans but they're not anywhere close to being ready for the AAC.
As a Marshall fan it would be pretty depressing to lose USM, LA Tech and/or WKU. Outisde of MTSU they're just about the only programs I enjoy playing in football.
Shoe I'm of the belief if the AAC was smart, I would pull Marshall, Southern Miss, WKU, and UAB/MTSU from CUSA. And if I was the Mountain West I would come for UTEP, UTSA, Rice, Louisiana Tech
Essentially killing off the Sun Belt and drastically weakening CUSA by making it the new Sun Belt
Essentially killing off the Sun Belt and drastically weakening CUSA by making it the new Sun Belt
The latest rumors I am hearing is that the B10 doesnt necessarily want to stay on ESPN. The main reason is the scripted lines the commentators on the channel used to pimp the SEC, at the expense of the B10. So, they are rumored to be in heavy negotiations with NBC and CBS.
As to the Big 10, one does not need to hype the SEC. The SEC is what it is, and that is awsome. ESPN could give it the same treatment it gives CUSA, the NHL, and all the other sports it does not own, and it still would be the highest rated game of the week, most every week.
With the SEC at 3:30 every week, there is no room for the Big 10 there. The virtually content free CBSSN is a different story, but CBS has never shown any interest in building it up.
NBC has Notre Dame and has good counter-programming with golf, eurosoccer, car racing, and like that.
With the SEC at 3:30 every week, there is no room for the Big 10 there. The virtually content free CBSSN is a different story, but CBS has never shown any interest in building it up.
NBC has Notre Dame and has good counter-programming with golf, eurosoccer, car racing, and like that.
The B10 has an alumni footprint that is by far the largest in the nation, if I am not mistaken. And, they are a very attractive conference, or they would not be getting the money from their own network or other tv affiliates.
I am pretty sure that Fox has the majority of the top tier rights to the b10, so the 330 game would not be an issue for CBS. And, they already have a contract with the conference.
NBC to me would make the most sense because they only have ND. I could see them wanting to have a bigger footprint in college football.
I could def see either network deciding to finally make a strong push into the college football world with their sports channel and this would be a large step in that direction.
I think it would actually be cheaper to buy season tickets and tickets to the road games than what is spent on a yearly cable bill.
So with THIS LOGIC DAN.....
The hope within MU is to keep the athletic program shiny in case openings pop up in a conference like, say, the American Athletic.
“We’re slowly getting better competitively because of our facilities,” Hamrick said. “It used to be football, football, football. Now, we’re a broad-based program.
“You never know what’s going to happen. I was in a lot better shape when I was single than I am married. That’s because you never knew when that pretty girl was going to walk in the door. You never know what’s going to happen.
“The pressure here, though, is what we put on ourselves. And, with the facilities here now, we’re putting a lot of pressure on ourselves to win. We just have to generate that revenue to do it.”
And this statement.....
If Marshall joins the AAC does it make Marshall v WVu a more attractive package to market?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ansion-american-on-guard-for-losses/83893226/
BIg 12 expands and AAC goes shopping...
BIg 12 expands and AAC goes shopping...
They will go where the money is, simple as that!!! You are way overthinking any issues. There was real rift between the two going into the last contract negotiations (that rift no longer exists, btw) and still EPSN got the entire "A" package.........its all about the money!!
Of the four mentioned there I'd say the likelihood of their joining the Big 12 as:
1) BYU
2) Cincinnati
3) Memphis
4) Boise State
One not named that I would add is Colorado State.
1) BYU
2) Cincinnati
3) Memphis
4) Boise State
One not named that I would add is Colorado State.
the b12 would have to make some concessions to add byu, they wouldn't have to do so to add any of the others. i also wouldn't count out houston.
Texas, Texas Tech and TCU have formed a solid voting alliance and are adamantly opposed to Houston and SMU. Since expanding the Big 12 requires a super majority of 8 schools, Houston has no chance.
IMHO,
AAC expansion is predicated upon B12 expansion.
The idea that all of Ohio (and the by far largest cable co in Ohio is T-W) is going to pay up for Cincinnati is just fantastic, IMHO. The school GIVES AWAY tickets to its games. And it has absolutely zero following anywhere else in Ohio. None. Zero. The idea that people in Toledo, or Youngstown, or Cleveland, or wherever else in Ohio are going to be happy paying for a school they have no interest in, from a town they have never been in, playing WVU and an bunch of schools from states they have not thought about since 7th grade geography class, is just not real. The idea that "The" OSU would consider Cincy a "rival" is just crazy. Unless ESPN can roll this into a larget deal, T-W and the dishes are going to tell them to pound sand and the 174 people in Hamilton County that complain can complain. UC is just not esential programming. And, remember, the LN is a failure. Bleeding money (Finebaum, an ESPN employee, says $50M/year). And that is selling Texas in Texas. But they are going to sell UC in the rest of Ohio? Right.
Texas schools add nothing.
Boise State is, one, heading for probation; two, in North Dumptruck, Idaho; and, three, a community college.
Memphis is, well Cincinnati is a smaller, poorer, blacker, city, competing with not just the Vols, but with all of the other nearby SEC programs. And, Memphis' may be the only school with less currency in the rest of its state than UC has in its. Yep, lots of folks in Bristol live and die for the mighty Tigers of Memphis. Not.
BYU, the largest private legitimate university in the country, in the fastest growing state, and representing the fastest growing religion, a complete no-brainer. It made a mistake trying to make it as an indy, but it brings everything to the table the B12 could want. Actual fans. Actual competitive teams. Non-alumni co-religionists NATIONWIDE who think of the school as "us".
After that, UConn only works to the point that you buy that Storrs CT = New York City NY. As to the helping WVU idea, the next night's sleep the Big 2's ADs lose over worrying about how bad they ripped off WVU and trying to help them out, will be night #1. Colorado State makes some sense. UNLV, if it is going to share a better than Jerry World stadium with the Raiders makes more.
Then you have the AAC. Just for fun, sans UC and UConn. Is that REALLY a move up for MU? One worth $7M we currently do not have? A random collection of abandoned Big 8 leftovers, overgrown big city colleges that really most of even the students ignore, and East Carolina. That (especially assuming CUSA is actually going to sign with ESPN) is worth $7M ?
AAC expansion is predicated upon B12 expansion.
The idea that all of Ohio (and the by far largest cable co in Ohio is T-W) is going to pay up for Cincinnati is just fantastic, IMHO. The school GIVES AWAY tickets to its games. And it has absolutely zero following anywhere else in Ohio. None. Zero. The idea that people in Toledo, or Youngstown, or Cleveland, or wherever else in Ohio are going to be happy paying for a school they have no interest in, from a town they have never been in, playing WVU and an bunch of schools from states they have not thought about since 7th grade geography class, is just not real. The idea that "The" OSU would consider Cincy a "rival" is just crazy. Unless ESPN can roll this into a larget deal, T-W and the dishes are going to tell them to pound sand and the 174 people in Hamilton County that complain can complain. UC is just not esential programming. And, remember, the LN is a failure. Bleeding money (Finebaum, an ESPN employee, says $50M/year). And that is selling Texas in Texas. But they are going to sell UC in the rest of Ohio? Right.
Texas schools add nothing.
Boise State is, one, heading for probation; two, in North Dumptruck, Idaho; and, three, a community college.
Memphis is, well Cincinnati is a smaller, poorer, blacker, city, competing with not just the Vols, but with all of the other nearby SEC programs. And, Memphis' may be the only school with less currency in the rest of its state than UC has in its. Yep, lots of folks in Bristol live and die for the mighty Tigers of Memphis. Not.
BYU, the largest private legitimate university in the country, in the fastest growing state, and representing the fastest growing religion, a complete no-brainer. It made a mistake trying to make it as an indy, but it brings everything to the table the B12 could want. Actual fans. Actual competitive teams. Non-alumni co-religionists NATIONWIDE who think of the school as "us".
After that, UConn only works to the point that you buy that Storrs CT = New York City NY. As to the helping WVU idea, the next night's sleep the Big 2's ADs lose over worrying about how bad they ripped off WVU and trying to help them out, will be night #1. Colorado State makes some sense. UNLV, if it is going to share a better than Jerry World stadium with the Raiders makes more.
Then you have the AAC. Just for fun, sans UC and UConn. Is that REALLY a move up for MU? One worth $7M we currently do not have? A random collection of abandoned Big 8 leftovers, overgrown big city colleges that really most of even the students ignore, and East Carolina. That (especially assuming CUSA is actually going to sign with ESPN) is worth $7M ?
Sam, where did you get that Utah is the fastest growing state and that it represents the fastest growing religion?
From the, umm, Census Bureau. In 1960 Utah had 890K people. Today it has 2.9 MILLION.
That Mormonism is the fastest growing religion in the USA is only disputed by the islamists who wish to treat "islam" as one religion, ignoring the plethora of different sects, which is like saying "Christian" is all one religion.
That Boise State is the least academic school in all of I-A is not disputable. What it "makes Marshall" is a really stupid question. Marshall is a solid broad based mid-sized university that is getting more broad based every year and conducting more research every year. Boise State teaches truck driving. Not that there is one thing in the world wrong with truck driving, but give me a break. It is a community college teaching community college subjects.
That Mormonism is the fastest growing religion in the USA is only disputed by the islamists who wish to treat "islam" as one religion, ignoring the plethora of different sects, which is like saying "Christian" is all one religion.
That Boise State is the least academic school in all of I-A is not disputable. What it "makes Marshall" is a really stupid question. Marshall is a solid broad based mid-sized university that is getting more broad based every year and conducting more research every year. Boise State teaches truck driving. Not that there is one thing in the world wrong with truck driving, but give me a break. It is a community college teaching community college subjects.
in 1960 texas had 9.5m people, today it has 27.5m people.
in 1960 colorado had 1.76m people, today it has 5.5m people.
http://www.sltrib.com/lifestyle/faith/2500019-155/christianity-shrinking-in-us-mormon-numbers
boise is a city and metro that is significantly larger than huntington, but anyway, please point out the truck driving program: https://registrar.boisestate.edu/undergraduate/program-list/
we're far from anyone to question any other institution's academic requirements, we'll admit almost anyone, then put them through remedial math/english classes.
i'm not, but i'm also quite aware that marshall is a solid, regional university. much like boise, and most other g5 public institutions.
I think that you are very correct, my folks told cable and satellite to go to hell, and if I had that choice I would too. Who the hell wants to watch the gay channels and LMN, Lifetime?? Anyways, get back to my point. There is one obstacle that prevents me from going that direction and I cant say its the same for every hi speed internet provider. I have Comcast here in SW Va and use their hi speed interest. They just recently set a usage limit that resets each month. If you go over the limit they start charging for every gigabyte you use which gets very expensive. I have to watch how much hulu, netlifx etc that I watch because they take considerable amount of usage.
So is sling an option for me, not at this point to be honest. Id love to cut the cable (internet alone is 80$) but id end up paying more for sling and cable together than sticking with the tv cable package they offer.
Cox and charter could be a totally different, but this is definitely Comcast way of curbing streaming options for tv.
you guys in areas with no options are pretty screwed. the caps are ridiculous. i have a friend that has Armstrong and is limited to 200gb a month. that seems like a lot, but if you get 100% of your TV online (Sling, Netflix, Hulu, ect) it is not. he has no other options.
in Lexington, TWC just added MAXX and upgraded everybody for free. i went from 30Mbps down 5 up to 200Mbps/20 at no charge. we don't have caps either. why did they do it? because Windstream installed a gigabit network (1,000Mbps down 1,000Mbps up) and is currently beta testing it. TW had to do something or lose customers. we also have other ISP's to choose from.
if i had a data cap in WV with no other service option, i would contact the AG's office. these companies are just milking people that have no choice but to pay...
in Lexington, TWC just added MAXX and upgraded everybody for free. i went from 30Mbps down 5 up to 200Mbps/20 at no charge. we don't have caps either. why did they do it? because Windstream installed a gigabit network (1,000Mbps down 1,000Mbps up) and is currently beta testing it. TW had to do something or lose customers. we also have other ISP's to choose from.
if i had a data cap in WV with no other service option, i would contact the AG's office. these companies are just milking people that have no choice but to pay...
LOL! You watch the Big 12 will add Cinnci Colorado State and UCONN.
Make WVu great again! LOL!!!!
I can read the release now.
(AP) Morgantown - today the big 12 added UCONN UC and CSU. In an effort to make certain wvwho stays decent bowl eligible and not have to play at 2AM EST cactus up your arse bowl because Coach Holgs is usually passed out by then. Said wvwho AD we feel this move will make wvu great again!
Im coach holgs and I approved this message!
Make WVu great again! LOL!!!!
I can read the release now.
(AP) Morgantown - today the big 12 added UCONN UC and CSU. In an effort to make certain wvwho stays decent bowl eligible and not have to play at 2AM EST cactus up your arse bowl because Coach Holgs is usually passed out by then. Said wvwho AD we feel this move will make wvu great again!
Im coach holgs and I approved this message!
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