The Bungles & Pack Man Jones

[SHAMMOND16]

because it's not illegal to run off the field towards your sideline?

pittsburgh got hit for a two player demonstration, thanks to the No Fun League.

Actually it is illegal. It's excessive celebration.

I read about it this morning. It didn't get called because an official has to warn the player first before throwing the flag. And since they ran the length of the field and into the tunnel, an official didn't get a chance to warn them hahahaha

 

[andy4theherd]

Not that it matters whether or not Porter should have gotten a flag or whether he instigated or inflamed the situstion, you do realize that he was on the Steelers side of the field and not across the field along the Bengals sideline?

he was closer to mid-field than he was either side-line. you can clearly see this in any of the replays... he's also standing in front of 5 Bengal players running his trap. a Steeler player grabs him and pulls him away. i thought he would have been giving Brown CPR given how "concerned" he was...

 

[herdit44]

THEY RAN THE LENGTH OF THE FIELD DOWN THE TUNNEL!!!! THAT WAS NOT TO THEIR SIDELINE!!!!!

they ran in the general direction of their sideline. either way, it's a judgment call, even if they call it, nothing really changes...hell, who knows, maybe the bengals go with something else instead of the play they called where the steelers got the ball right back.

 

[herdit44]

Actually it is illegal. It's excessive celebration.

I read about it this morning. It didn't get called because an official has to warn the player first before throwing the flag. And since they ran the length of the field and into the tunnel, an official didn't get a chance to warn them hahahaha

i can see that, judgment call. had they thrown it, not sure anyone would've complained, but again, really didn't swing the game one way or the other.

 

[SHAMMOND16]

i can see that, judgment call. had they thrown it, not sure anyone would've complained, but again, really didn't swing the game one way or the other.

I agree with that.

With the whole Pac Man thing, the officials tried to keep the flags in their pocket. And this might be a good example of how the double personal foul flag or the double technical in basketball works....the official flagged Pac Man for making contact with an official. Pac Man went through an official when yelling at Porter. The official who threw the flag had his back turned to Pac Man and threw the flag when he got hit from behind. If the official threw a flag on Porter and the Bengals right from the beginning of that garbage, the situation probably doesn't escalate to where Pac Man goes psycho.

 

[The Real SamC]

1 - The Steelers (and the Cowboys) are the NFL's pet teams. Does that mean that it is fake, like wrestling? No, of course not. But the NFL is going to make both's schedule in terms of not only who, but WHEN they play as easy as possible. No other teams get as many long breaks.

2 - The Steelers are in the Bengals' collective heads.

3 - The refs blew it. Again.

4 - Pittsburgh's sideline crew, especially their assistants, act like the thugs they are. The NFL will do nothing about it, because of #1 above.

 

[Herd020]

i can see that, judgment call. had they thrown it, not sure anyone would've complained, but again, really didn't swing the game one way or the other.

Well, woulda coulda......If you think about it, that's a fifteen yard penalty. The Bengals next play they fumbled it back. That puts the steelers 15 yards closer...hence the 15 yards Pac-Man gave em. It's all questionable. That's the point. If the refs call the 15 yarder on excessive celebration...which I don't know what video you were watching....they ran the length of the field down the tunnel....nowhere near their sideline watch it.......the Pac-man penalty means nothing. it's all questionable. The refs missed a lot. they didn't cater to one team or the other.

 

[Herd020]

And by the way.......both team's coaches spent time on the field.....see the link below.

http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Slew-of-Bengals-coaches-also-on-field-during-Wild-Card-Game-42738817

 

[herdit44]

Well, woulda coulda......If you think about it, that's a fifteen yard penalty. The Bengals next play they fumbled it back. That puts the steelers 15 yards closer...hence the 15 yards Pac-Man gave em. It's all questionable. That's the point. If the refs call the 15 yarder on excessive celebration...which I don't know what video you were watching....they ran the length of the field down the tunnel....nowhere near their sideline watch it.......the Pac-man penalty means nothing. it's all questionable. The refs missed a lot. they didn't cater to one team or the other.

yeah, if you assume they fumble it back...and you know what they same about assuming...

either way, we get it, you're a steelers fan, you don't care about the reality of the situation, just sticking up for your team. it's cool, we get it.

 

[Herd020]

yeah, if you assume they fumble it back...and you know what they same about assuming...

either way, we get it, you're a steelers fan, you don't care about the reality of the situation, just sticking up for your team. it's cool, we get it.

And you're a butthurt bengals fan who can't see reality. We get it too.

 

[herdit44]

And you're a butthurt bengals fan who can't see reality. We get it too.

and you can't read.

 

[Herd020]

and you can't read.

And neither can you

 

[herdit44]

And neither can you

right, right.

btw, you'd do yourself a bit of a service and go back in this thread hours ago when i said. "i'm a fan of a nfc team, that rarely makes the playoffs..."

 

[Herd020]

right, right.

btw, you'd do yourself a bit of a service and go back in this thread hours ago when i said. "i'm a fan of a nfc team, that rarely makes the playoffs..."

I don't care. Your arguments are completely off base when you look at facts. You don't want to look at facts. You simply want to bitch about the Steelers.

 

[herdit44]

I don't care. Your arguments are completely off base when you look at facts. You don't want to look at facts. You simply want to bitch about the Steelers.

what's off base?

the fact that the excessive celebration you want called on the bengals is a judgment call, and other poster offered up that a player has to be warned first and the officials weren't able to warn burfict and the other morons running down the field so they couldn't call the penalty supposedly anyway. the excessive celebration called on the steelers isn't a judgment call.

the fact that by rule shazier's hit on bernard was a penalty, even though it's rarely called.

the steelers had a coach who broke two rules, one for being on the field that the officials let slide (fine) and the other taunting the opponents. sure the bengals had coaches on the field, they didn't have any coaches between the hashes talking trash/instigating with the opponents.

 

[mjs4wvu]

Reality is......Bengals lose because they have such an enormous inferiority complex that they would rather rather fight than win.

 

[TIREPUNK]

1 - The Steelers (and the Cowboys) are the NFL's pet teams. Does that mean that it is fake, like wrestling? No, of course not. But the NFL is going to make both's schedule in terms of not only who, but WHEN they play as easy as possible. No other teams get as many long breaks.

2 - The Steelers are in the Bengals' collective heads.

3 - The refs blew it. Again.

4 - Pittsburgh's sideline crew, especially their assistants, act like the thugs they are. The NFL will do nothing about it, because of #1 above.

Steelers were actually booked with the toughest NFL schedule for 2015....so there is that.
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2014...ule-for-each-NFL-team-early-look-all-32-teams

 

[Yogiherd]

Actually it is illegal. It's excessive celebration.

I read about it this morning. It didn't get called because an official has to warn the player first before throwing the flag. And since they ran the length of the field and into the tunnel, an official didn't get a chance to warn them hahahaha

A few weeks ago early in the first half a RB(C. West) for the Chiefs took the handoff and ran down the left hash mark scoring on the 30+ yard run. He put on a burst of speed to get past a defender and crossed the goal line at full speed just inside the pylon and continued thru and up the tunnel for about 5-8 yards. They threw a flag and he didn't have a warning.

 

[SHAMMOND16]

A few weeks ago early in the first half a RB(C. West) for the Chiefs took the handoff and ran down the left hash mark scoring on the 30+ yard run. He put on a burst of speed to get past a defender and crossed the goal line at full speed just inside the pylon and continued thru and up the tunnel for about 5-8 yards. They threw a flag and he didn't have a warning.

Very possible.

Maybe that situation wasnt called correctly? I dont know? I just read today that Burfict should have been flagged, but the rule was the officials had to warn first & they couldn't. Maybe the Chiefs game was called incorrectly, maybe the Chiefs were warned earlier in the game. or maybe the article I read today was wrong. Just passing on what I've heard.

 

[mjs4wvu]

Dear Bengals fans, I remember when Jones declared for the NFL after his Jr. season. I was kinda bummed because he was a great player, but we had just finished the season in a disappointing fashion. My dad told me not to worry because he was a head case and we'd be better off without him. Next year we won the Sugar Bowl. How often do you see an unstable individual win anything? Nuts crack under pressure.

 

[andy4theherd]

Next year we won the Sugar Bowl.

 

[The Real SamC]

Steelers were actually booked with the toughest NFL schedule for 2015....so there is that.

WHO each team plays is based on a formula. Each division plays H & H (6 games) , each team in another division in the same conference on a rotating basis (4 games, thus ever team in the conference every 3 years) , every team in another division in the same conference on a rotating basis (4 games, thus every team in the other conference every 4 years), plus the two teams that finished in the same position in the other two divisions in the conference the previous year (2 games). NOTHING the NFL can do about that.

WHEN a team plays and in WHAT ORDER is made up by the NFL. Via manipulation of off-weeks, and mixing up hard and easy teams, the Steelers and the Cowboys, the NFL's pet teams, play with more rest than other teams and never two hard games in a row.

Who played Thursday night the first week and got 11 days off following?

The pet team.

 

[mjs4wvu]

Um, every team plays 16 games in 17 weeks, but somehow every year the NFL gives the Steelers more time off. They also know which teams are gonna be good and make sure that the steelers don't have to those teams back to back. That is why the Steelers have won 6 Superbowls.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Let's not forget that this year for the playoffs the league office actually has a live connection with the officials. God knows what bullshit they are putting in their ears.

Burlich is garbage. Pacman is trash. But the Steelers, while having their own set of thugs, also has a cheating, dirty, scummy coaching staff. And a damn rapist as the team star.

 

[Herd In the Plains]

Not that it matters whether or not Porter should have gotten a flag or whether he instigated or inflamed the situstion, you do realize that he was on the Steelers side of the field and not across the field along the Bengals sideline?

It matters because by rule he was not to be on the field. It is written that only the HC can be on the field. No other. Porter was in violation of the rule. He had a purpose and he succeeded. By rule he should have been flagged, negating the 15 yards on Pac Man. I don't like either of those teams, I prefer the hapless Browns. The Steelers clearly had the benefit on judgement calls.

 

[Herd020]

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It matters because by rule he was not to be on the field. It is written that only the HC can be on the field. No other. Porter was in violation of the rule. He had a purpose and he succeeded. By rule he should have been flagged, negating the 15 yards on Pac Man. I don't like either of those teams, I prefer the hapless Browns. The Steelers clearly had the benefit on judgement calls.

I will only say this.....think about it....If Burfict gets a 15 yard penalty for excessive celebration when he intercepted the ball and ran down the tunnel, the 15 yards is back on...so therefore, woulda, coulda, shoulda means absolutely nothing. If you say The Steelers should have gotten a 15 yard penalty for Porter being on the field, then it would have been negated by the 15 on Burfict not called.

 

[herdit44]

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I will only say this.....think about it....If Burfict gets a 15 yard penalty for excessive celebration when he intercepted the ball and ran down the tunnel, the 15 yards is back on...so therefore, woulda, coulda, shoulda means absolutely nothing. If you say The Steelers should have gotten a 15 yard penalty for Porter being on the field, then it would have been negated by the 15 on Burfict not called.

i agree burfict should've gotten a penalty. joey porter should've also been penalized. that said, burfict's penalty doesn't significantly change the game, but porter's would've had a much higher chance.

 

[andy4theherd]

saying Brown is out for the game Sunday

i'll believe it when the offense takes the field and he isn't there......

 

[mjs4wvu]

He's probably just faking to make the Bengals look bad. The NFL is trying to move the game back to give the Steelers more rest.