DShoe- I know you are on the inside and I believe what you are saying about the G-5 commissioners, but that blows my mind. There have been rumors flying around since the 90's of the P-5 wanting to break off. Anybody, that is a supporter of a G-5 school has known or has felt the playing field prior to autonomy was tilted to the big schools. The fact that these G-5 Commissioners were okay ( and didn't have any reservations)with giving the P-5 autonomy shows their incompetence!
The Credibility of the Herald-Dispatch
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Just to be clear, it's because of the home games vs ND & PSU that Temple's attendance grew.
Their current plan is to build a 30,000 seat on campus stadium.......I'm sure they will still play the big money games at the Linc.
However, I agree.....We're not going anywhere.
30,480 to be exact........Obviously better than us. Certainly a much larger market to draw from and they were ranked in the Top 25 from Oct. 22nd and on.
23,827 for us, excluding Purdue......26,321 with Purdue. Not a great year for attendance for us. No MTSU and no WKU, plus some iffy weather.
both of those numbers i'd consider good versus our peers, and versus a lot of bigger programs with larger student bodies, larger markets to draw from, etc.
I couldn't agree more.....We are who we are......And we're doing pretty damn well.
I think it's really very simple. We are not going anywhere because we don't align with the schools that are in the AAC, but that is due to athletic budget... We just simply do not have the resources available that the AAC schools have at their disposal. Don't get me wrong, we have done an awesome job to get where we are, but we can't put ourselves in a position year in and year out of "keeping up with the Joneses".
Our DMA is 65th in the top 100 Not bad... But we would be the smallest DMA in the AAC (The bottom five being #34 Cincinnati, #36 ECU, #48 Memphis, #53 Tulane, and #61 Tulsa). I'm not so sure that the DMA is nearly as much of a factor as athletic budget, but it probably gets some play.
Attendance is a direct result of competition. I think we will see a rise in overall attendance figures because we are not going to have Akron and Miami coming here. We are going to have the likes of Pitt, Louisville, NC State, Boise, etc. which will boost overall attendance. If we were in the AAC I think we'd see our attendance improve for the likes of USF, UCF, Navy, etc. over North Texas, Old Dominion, and FIU etc.
However, there is one factor that changes all that I have just posted: WEATHER. .. A lot of our fans are notoriously fickle. Sorry, but that's how I see it. I haven't missed a home game in 5 years and the people of Huntington do not go out when it rains...especially for Norfolk State, Rhode Island, or North Texas...
But like another poster said.. "We are who we are..." I'm just thankful we have a very successful football team and focus on what we have, not on what we don't.
Our DMA is 65th in the top 100 Not bad... But we would be the smallest DMA in the AAC (The bottom five being #34 Cincinnati, #36 ECU, #48 Memphis, #53 Tulane, and #61 Tulsa). I'm not so sure that the DMA is nearly as much of a factor as athletic budget, but it probably gets some play.
Attendance is a direct result of competition. I think we will see a rise in overall attendance figures because we are not going to have Akron and Miami coming here. We are going to have the likes of Pitt, Louisville, NC State, Boise, etc. which will boost overall attendance. If we were in the AAC I think we'd see our attendance improve for the likes of USF, UCF, Navy, etc. over North Texas, Old Dominion, and FIU etc.
However, there is one factor that changes all that I have just posted: WEATHER. .. A lot of our fans are notoriously fickle. Sorry, but that's how I see it. I haven't missed a home game in 5 years and the people of Huntington do not go out when it rains...especially for Norfolk State, Rhode Island, or North Texas...
But like another poster said.. "We are who we are..." I'm just thankful we have a very successful football team and focus on what we have, not on what we don't.
Are you using the Greenville DMA or Raleigh because if that's the case we should use the Lexington, KY DMA then
The #37 DMA is Greenville SOUTH CAROLINA.
ECU is located in Greenville NORTH CAROLINA, which is DMA #99, about 2/3rds the size of the Huntington-Charleston DMA.
In any event, of course, comparing DMA sizes is irrlevant, until you consider the significance of the particular school in the DMA. Cincinnati, for example is essentually irrelevant in Cincinnati. Buckeyes and Wildcats.
Right, I agree... That's why I said I didn't weigh DMA as much as athletic budget.
Not the first person to make the mistake. Easy way to remember is Greenville (Spartanburg, Asheville) DMA is in north west North and South Carolina, which has a TOPOGRAPHY similar to ours. While Greenville DMA is the dusty sandhills of southeast NC, too far east to enjoy the prosperity of the Carolina Piedmont and too far west to enjoy the ocean, and thus has an ECOMONY similar to ours.
The easiest way is to simply not fall for the THE AMERICAN!!!!!!!! lie that DMA size is important in the first place. Remember the most recent "playoff" was between teams located in the above mentioned DMA #37 and #45. The one before that DMA #119 and DMA #31.
Of course all those schools have fans. In town, statewide and beyond. The AMERICANS!!!!!! have, pretty much universal, irrelevancy, even a few blocks from their fields.
To be clear; The P5 conferences don't want to break away from the NCAA, they simply want to play by their own rules. For example: They have discussed proposing legislation suggesting that if they simply hire enough compliance people (I think the number suggested is 8) that the act of hiring that large a number be sufficient to show that they are so serious about compliance and academic issues, that they can't be sanctioned if they commit violations. The logic being, that they did all they could by hiring the "Monitors" and therefore can't be held accountable if something or someone goes wrong. I kid you not on this one.
Those articles are just that articles and nothing more than informative reading. The autonomy legislation was passed with a stipulation that there would be a moratorium on certain issues that could not be touched..... 85 rule and transfer being among those items......... there have been "creative" attempts already to "work around" those and the moratorium has a time limit.
Time of course will tell, but as I have said many times over the years, there simply are no stewards of the games anymore, that is NOBODY and NO body (NCAA for example) are looking out fort he competitive welfare of college athletic any longer........Imagine, if you will, a system that takes the enormous amount of money being generated by college sports and provides some equitable distribution that considers all of the economic factors facing all of the membership..........but greed unfortunately has become the driver and not the common welfare of the games themselves. Fantasyland, for sure!!!
You simply cannot maintain 12, 13, 14 &15 game seasons/playoffs spread from August into January with only 85 players. Too much wear and tear on young bodies.
North Dakota state has play 15 games the last 5 years at 65 scholarships and they look fresh each time.
If you play on a state championship caliber team in Florida, Texas, California you will play a 15 game season. That is just a pathetic excuse from the P5 in another attemp to phase out G5 schools. Plus how many schools actually play all 85 kids?
