The USA and Nato Nations are Hell Bent on Starting WW3.

[i am herdman]

Sending these 30 or so tanks over there won't be enough to expel Russia. They have also stated that taking Crimea back might be on the table. Russia has said it would defend Crimea at all cost, including nuclear options.

So what will the USA do? We will send more tanks and arms continuously and blindly. This situation will escalate. Both sides can escalate the situation. Now Crimea is on the table. We were told Urkaine was winning. Since then we have sent more money, arms, missile systems and now main battle tanks.

What is next? Why is Crimea sudddnely on the table?

Where are we headed? This is growing dangerous situation. Frankly, getting nuked or anyone getting nuked or getting US toops involved over Vladmir Zelensky or Ukraine is stupid. This is a growing boondoggle.

 

[murox]

Sending these 30 or so tanks over there won't be enough to expel Russia. They have also stated that taking Crimea back might be on the table. Russia has said it would defend Crimea at all cost, including nuclear options.

So what will the USA do? We will send more tanks and arms continuously and blindly. This situation will escalate. Both sides can escalate the situation. Now Crimea is on the table. We were told Urkaine was winning. Since then we have sent more money, arms, missile systems and now main battle tanks.

What is next? Why is Crimea sudddnely on the table?

Where are we headed? This is growing dangerous situation. Frankly, getting nuke or anyone getting nuked or getting US toops involved over Vladmir Zelensky or Ukraine is stupid. This is growing boondoggle.

This shows two things: how handily Russia is winning this war; and how important western political elites need the money-laundering state of Ukraine.

 

[i am herdman]

This shows two things: how handily Russia is winning this war; and how important western political elites need the money-laundering state of Ukraine.

It is a big money laundering country.

 

[herdfan429]

Nato and Western Europe aren’t doing shit. Trump was right to get them to pay up or say adios.
And herdman I still think you’d be singing a different tune if trump was doing the same thing tue Biden admin is

 

[SamSwimmer]

The requests for F-16's are next

 

[i am herdman]

Nato and Western Europe aren’t doing shit. Trump was right to get them to pay up or say adios.
And herdman I still think you’d be singing a different tune if trump was doing the same thing tue Biden admin is

Never would have happened under Trump. It didn't happen under Trump. Russia invaded the first time under Obama and the second time under Mush Biden.

This thing is little by little escalating.

 

[i am herdman]

The requests for F-16's are next

Like I stated, we will just keep adding and adding things. We have essentially declared war on Russia.

 

[wvkeeper(HN)]

 

[murox]

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This is actually hilarious.

But the situation is dire for the world. Putin is going to win this war handily and the 45 year old untrained Ukranian troops who were commissioned to war by their cross-dressing puppet president will never see their families again. Our gifted tanks will be destroyed and litter the Ukrainian countryside for decades.

If NATO gets involved it's WW3, and all for international banking. What a shame.

 

[extragreen]

Russia invaded the first time under Obama and the second time under Mush Biden

First time under Big W.

Putin is going to win this war handily

No time frame for the victory this time??

 

[i am herdman]

First time under Big W.

No time frame for the victory this time??

I guess technically we could say they first did hundreds of years ago.

What was the attack under Bush? The election interference?

 

[i am herdman]

Russia has mobilized 300,000 troops with 150,000 of those actively training for an upcoming offensive.

Ukraine is taking massive casualties and has no real offensive way to drive Russia out.

What is the USA end game here and NATO end game? Ukraine cannot drive Russi out offensively.

These are conventional land battles and combined land warfare battles. With large troops movements. Ukraine simply does not have that capability.

 

[OldielovesHerd]

Nato and Western Europe aren’t doing shit. Trump was right to get them to pay up or say adios.
And herdman I still think you’d be singing a different tune if trump was doing the same thing tue Biden admin is

Germany finally agreed to send tanks also.

 

[i am herdman]

Germany finally agreed to send tanks also.

What do you think less than 100 tanks are going to do?

 

[extragreen]

Ukraine is taking massive casualties

So is Russia.

 

[SamSwimmer]

What do you think less than 100 tanks are going to do?

Cost us an absolute shit-ton of money & escalate the situation globally. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Ukrainian officials are lobbying for several hundred tanks. It's mind blowing to me people are all for giving Ukraine a blank check without any sort of defined game plan - they're Ukraine's little bitches.

 

[-CarlHungus-]

If Putin were declining peace talks we'd hear about it, right?

Why do I get the sense that absolutely no one is interested in peace talks?

Taking Crimea back for Ukraine is insane. It escalates things.

We were told we had to defend Ukraine to defend western values. Surely banning the Russian Orthodox church (I believe the most common religion in Ukraine) is not a western value act by the government of Ukraine. So what are we doing?

We've seen enough of the Russian army to know they aren't going to try to invade other countries. They aren't exactly a stout force. But they have nukes and enough will (no one can suffer like the Russians - read Dostoevsky) to drag this war out for many many years and even start WW3.

 

[wvkeeper(HN)]

 

[i am herdman]

So is Russia.

The war is basically a stalemate

 

[i am herdman]

Cost us an absolute shit-ton of money & escalate the situation globally. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Ukrainian officials are lobbying for several hundred tanks. It's mind blowing to me people are all for giving Ukraine a blank check without any sort of defined game plan - they're Ukraine's little bitches.

Insanity

 

[i am herdman]

If Putin were declining peace talks we'd hear about it, right?

Why do I get the sense that absolutely no one is interested in peace talks?

Taking Crimea back for Ukraine is insane. It escalates things.

We were told we had to defend Ukraine to defend western values. Surely banning the Russian Orthodox church (I believe the most common religion in Ukraine) is not a western value act by the government of Ukraine. So what are we doing?

We've seen enough of the Russian army to know they aren't going to try to invade other countries. They aren't exactly a stout force. But they have nukes and enough will (no one can suffer like the Russians - read Dostoevsky) to drag this war out for many many years and even start WW3.

Good points.

 

[i am herdman]

The war is basically a stalemate

So what is the end game

 

[-CarlHungus-]

So what is the end game

We're going to risk all these lives, risk nuclear war.....and yet still I think the most likely outcome even years into this is more dead people and Russia keeping Crimea and maybe getting some of Donbas.

If Ukraine wants to say the end game is Russia going back to pre-2014 borders then that will cost trillions from world wide funders and will carry a not insignificant risk of WW3 or nuclear war.

 

[OldielovesHerd]

We're going to risk all these lives, risk nuclear war.....and yet still I think the most likely outcome even years into this is more dead people and Russia keeping Crimea and maybe getting some of Donbas.

If Ukraine wants to say the end game is Russia going back to pre-2014 borders then that will cost trillions from world wide funders and will carry a not insignificant risk of WW3 or nuclear war.

Russian initial plan was to take all of Ukraine and still may be.

 

[WV-FAN]

Russia defence ministry says frigate tests strike capabilities in Atlantic

The Russian Defence Ministry said on Wednesday the frigate Admiral Gorshkov tested its strike capabilities in the western Atlantic Ocean.

www.reuters.com

 

[SamSwimmer]

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Biden’s shortsighted dipshittery knows no bounds. It’s also been confirmed the Russian Federation has been recruiting Afghan commandos who were trained by SOF’s from different NATO countries

 

[ohio herd]

The requests for F-16's are next

'We will get F-16s': Ukraine aims for NATO's fighter jets after winning battle for Western tanks

Kyiv appears confident that, as with Western tanks, it will eventually be given F-16s too.

www.cnbc.com

 

[i am herdman]

Russian initial plan was to take all of Ukraine and still may be.

By updated accounts Ukraine has suffered 150,000 or so casualites, Russian 100,000 or so.

But, there are no peace talks. Are we encouraging a stalemate blood bath?

While at the same time, luring us into an escalated conflict? There are serious implications. First, we have deplted our reserouces and we right now can't fight a two front conflict. That has always been our goal and ability. Two fight a two front conflict if necessary. China is by far, by far, the bigger long term threat and we are not keeping up nor prepared to fight a one front major conflict let alone two.

THis is very dangerous, very dangerous. I am telling you this could be bad in a major way. What for?

 

[MichiganHerd]

How much do those Abrams tanks cost? Has to be a helluva lot. Russia will pick those off 1 by 1. Probably be the first targets once they arrive.

Plus, they'll probably end up with a few of them, and give one to the Mullahs to re-engineer.

Hell, if we're sending in all our finest equipment, we're already at war with them. Just using other people to take the bullet. And for what? As far as I'm concerned, they can have the damn sunflowers.

 

[MichiganHerd]

I just looked it up. Over $10,000,000 per tank, and a hell of a lot more to get it there, and then even more to replace it. Damn, we're stupid.

 

[OldielovesHerd]

By updated accounts Ukraine has suffered 150,000 or so casualites, Russian 100,000 or so.

But, there are no peace talks. Are we encouraging a stalemate blood bath?

While at the same time, luring us into an escalated conflict? There are serious implications. First, we have deplted our reserouces and we right now can't fight a two front conflict. That has always been our goal and ability. Two fight a two front conflict if necessary. China is by far, by far, the bigger long term threat and we are not keeping up nor prepared to fight a one front major conflict let alone two.

THis is very dangerous, very dangerous. I am telling you this could be bad in a major way. What for?

Could this be the Armagedon that many have falsely predicted for so long? Neuclear war could could end it all and Jesus comes takes his people and heaven and hell begin or it could be just another horrific war that always only ends up with great loss of life. I do not have the answer to all this. Does anybody?

 

[MichiganHerd]

Could this be the Armagedon that many have falsely predicted for so long? Neuclear war could could end it all and Jesus comes takes his people and heaven and hell begin or it could be just another horrific war that always only ends up with great loss of life. I do not have the answer to all this. Does anybody?

I hope not, because greed told me I was going to hell, and apparently he's in charge of making all the calls.

 

[i am herdman]

Could this be the Armagedon that many have falsely predicted for so long? Neuclear war could could end it all and Jesus comes takes his people and heaven and hell begin or it could be just another horrific war that always only ends up with great loss of life. I do not have the answer to all this. Does anybody?

Well, if it is why worry about global warming?

 

[OldielovesHerd]

I hope not, because greed told me I was going to hell, and apparently he's in charge of making all the calls.

Well for one time greed is wrong. God makes all those decisions.

 

[OldielovesHerd]

Well, if it is why worry about global warming?

Because it is just a possibility at this point.

 

[extragreen]

Well for one time greed is wrong. God makes all those decisions.

Didn't I tell you that the cons on this board will lie to you all the time? All...the...time.

 

[OldielovesHerd]

Didn't I tell you that the cons on this board will lie to you all the time? All...the...time.

So you did not tell Michigan that?

 

[i am herdman]

So you did not tell Michigan that?

Ask EG about his scientology experience. Do you think that is compatible with Chistianity?

 

[MichiganHerd]

So you did not tell Michigan that?

he says bad things like that to me all the time. always thought me and him were friends.

 

[i am herdman]

he says bad things like that to me all the time. always thought me and him were friends.

Remember, you spoke in favor of greed returning when he got suspeneded. So did I. And, looks how he treats us. Not even a simple thanks, boys.