Thinking About Moving to SoCal

[big_country90]

So I started looking at homes, just to see what’s available. Help me decide.

First…we have this 2BR, 2BA, 1,301 sq foot home for the price of $975,000. It’s less than average, very out dated and needs tons of work inside and out. But hey…it’s in SoCal.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1611-Silver-Oak-Ter-Los-Angeles-CA-90041/20852644_zpid/

Next we have this 2BR, 1BA, 1,083 sq ft home for the price of $1,090,000. While nicer than the first, it was built in 1949 and barely has room for one person and looks terribly cramped. Also has virtually no yard.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6345-Deep-Dell-Pl-Los-Angeles-CA-90068/20804933_zpid/

Let’s not pick on Los Angeles though. Let’s see what’s near Anaheim. This 4BR, 3BA 1,406 sq ft home is built in 1941, also with virtually no yard, and has a few updates but overall is pretty outdated. $950,000.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1019-N-Liberty-Ln-Anaheim-CA-92805/25159790_zpid/

Another option in Anaheim. 4 BR, 3BA, and actually has a square footage that starts with a “2.” Wait….but it’s a duplex… so only a little over 1,000 sq ft per family. It does have nice updates on the inside but the exterior is awful and, again, no yard to speak of. $950,000.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/122-S-Cherry-St-Anaheim-CA-92805/25127969_zpid/

I’m just starting the search process, but so far I’m not impressed. Doesn’t look like $1 million will get you much in Southern California. There isn’t a single house that I listed that would appraise for $300,000 in West Virginia... and that’s being generous. Shameful to waste that kind of money on such a less-than-mediocre property.

Oh well… I’ll keep looking in other parts of SoCal to see if I’m able to find anything remotely worth purchasing.

 

[big_country90]

By the way… My neighbor in Hurricane is a catcher in MLB. And that’s the 100% truth. Just thought I would mention that since that apparently makes one special.

 

[raleighherdfan]

 

[i am herdman]

BC,

This is a better deal, $349,000. Save yourself some money, no need tow worry about the yard work. Can't mow gravel. Plus, in reality, you get 1,400 square feet and good neighbors.

https://www.homes.com/property/7711-e-avenue-t8-littlerock-ca/3ewly86km8tbs/

 

[Jartard]

By the way… My neighbor in Hurricane is a catcher in MLB. And that’s the 100% truth. Just thought I would mention that since that apparently makes one special.

But did he receive a letterman jacket?

 

[i am herdman]

By the way… My neighbor in Hurricane is a catcher in MLB. And that’s the 100% truth. Just thought I would mention that since that apparently makes one special.

If I would have played in the bigs, I think I could have really probably hit better because the pitchers give you something to work with.

 

[WV-FAN]

$900K plus for one of those? damn, i'm jealous. my place just appraised last year at $750K, albeit in BFE-WV. in comparison to those, it'd be a $5M+ property out there. $10M+ in comparison to the one herman posted.

 

[HerdandHokies]

Local bumpkins discover housing in major metropolitan areas is expensive, more at 7.

Prices are high because a lot of people want to live there. Go inland a bit and things get a lot less expensive. For example, if for some godforsaken reason you wanted to live in Lancaster you could get this: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/15804-Lanfair-Ave-Lake-Los-Angeles-CA-93535/20306728_zpid/ for $375k. Which is still expensive compared to, say, Culloden, but again that’s what happens when people want to live somewhere.

 

[Rock98Dog]

As Extra would rightly (in this case), it’s a supply side issue. It’s not people flocking to CA anymore. It’s new housing units constrained by an onerous government.

It’s like the $1.7MM SF toilet. A contractor offers to purchase and build it for free and the city turns it down because, even though all materials and labor were free, it would still cost $1.2MM, which was the “regulatory “ cost of the project. They “spend” $900,000 a unit to build apartments there that cost $120,000 a unit in the Midwest. About 20% of the difference is material and labor costs, the other 80% is regulation related.

 

[HerdandHokies]

Well you’re sort of right, but it’s actually from a thousand onerous local governments who fight any development tooth and nail, and anything even medium density even harder. The state government has taken measures to reduce local ability to block development and we’re starting to see the impact of that but it’ll take time.

Also, SF got their toilet. https://abc7news.com/amp/sf-bathroo...toilet-17-million-restroom-donation/12739362/

 

[ohio herd]

So I started looking at homes, just to see what’s available. Help me decide.

First…we have this 2BR, 2BA, 1,301 sq foot home for the price of $975,000. It’s less than average, very out dated and needs tons of work inside and out. But hey…it’s in SoCal.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1611-Silver-Oak-Ter-Los-Angeles-CA-90041/20852644_zpid/

Next we have this 2BR, 1BA, 1,083 sq ft home for the price of $1,090,000. While nicer than the first, it was built in 1949 and barely has room for one person and looks terribly cramped. Also has virtually no yard.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6345-Deep-Dell-Pl-Los-Angeles-CA-90068/20804933_zpid/

Let’s not pick on Los Angeles though. Let’s see what’s near Anaheim. This 4BR, 3BA 1,406 sq ft home is built in 1941, also with virtually no yard, and has a few updates but overall is pretty outdated. $950,000.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1019-N-Liberty-Ln-Anaheim-CA-92805/25159790_zpid/

Another option in Anaheim. 4 BR, 3BA, and actually has a square footage that starts with a “2.” Wait….but it’s a duplex… so only a little over 1,000 sq ft per family. It does have nice updates on the inside but the exterior is awful and, again, no yard to speak of. $950,000.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/122-S-Cherry-St-Anaheim-CA-92805/25127969_zpid/

I’m just starting the search process, but so far I’m not impressed. Doesn’t look like $1 million will get you much in Southern California. There isn’t a single house that I listed that would appraise for $300,000 in West Virginia... and that’s being generous. Shameful to waste that kind of money on such a less-than-mediocre property.

Oh well… I’ll keep looking in other parts of SoCal to see if I’m able to find anything remotely worth purchasing.

you should check with Rifle he might have something you could rent from him sorta like an Airbnb

 

[ohio herd]

But did he receive a letterman jacket?

 

[Jartard]

you should check with Rifle he might have something you could rent from him sorta like an Airbnb

Just find one of his empty properties and be a squatter.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Prices are high because a lot of people want to live there.

Has SoCal ever had cheap homes in our lifetimes? Likely not.

 

[HerdandHokies]

Has SoCal ever had cheap homes in our lifetimes? Likely not.

The typical definition of SoCal which is “San Diego to just north of LA, never going further inland than a half hour except maybe Orange?” No. But inland yeah, I’ll bet 20 years ago you could’ve gotten a good deal on a house in a lot of places inland. But you lose a lot of the benefits of “SoCal.”

 

[i am herdman]

Brad lived in California. Had a bigger house. Skipped thr letterman jacket and went straight to being University President and doesn't need the salary.

 

[muthed]

So I started looking at homes, just to see what’s available. Help me decide.

First…we have this 2BR, 2BA, 1,301 sq foot home for the price of $975,000. It’s less than average, very out dated and needs tons of work inside and out. But hey…it’s in SoCal.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1611-Silver-Oak-Ter-Los-Angeles-CA-90041/20852644_zpid/

Next we have this 2BR, 1BA, 1,083 sq ft home for the price of $1,090,000. While nicer than the first, it was built in 1949 and barely has room for one person and looks terribly cramped. Also has virtually no yard.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6345-Deep-Dell-Pl-Los-Angeles-CA-90068/20804933_zpid/

Let’s not pick on Los Angeles though. Let’s see what’s near Anaheim. This 4BR, 3BA 1,406 sq ft home is built in 1941, also with virtually no yard, and has a few updates but overall is pretty outdated. $950,000.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1019-N-Liberty-Ln-Anaheim-CA-92805/25159790_zpid/

Another option in Anaheim. 4 BR, 3BA, and actually has a square footage that starts with a “2.” Wait….but it’s a duplex… so only a little over 1,000 sq ft per family. It does have nice updates on the inside but the exterior is awful and, again, no yard to speak of. $950,000.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/122-S-Cherry-St-Anaheim-CA-92805/25127969_zpid/

I’m just starting the search process, but so far I’m not impressed. Doesn’t look like $1 million will get you much in Southern California. There isn’t a single house that I listed that would appraise for $300,000 in West Virginia... and that’s being generous. Shameful to waste that kind of money on such a less-than-mediocre property.

Oh well… I’ll keep looking in other parts of SoCal to see if I’m able to find anything remotely worth purchasing.

You need to consult with our resident SoCal land baron. He has million dollar properties everywhere.

 

[Rock98Dog]

Has SoCal ever had cheap homes in our lifetimes? Likely not.

I had an uncle get pretty rich from RE out there. Went out in the 60s as a teacher, retired from administration in the same school system. Bought some duplexs and four plexes over the years in in the 60s and 70s for $50k to $70k per unit. They were worth several hundred thousand per unit when he sold them.

 

[mlblack16.]

Brad lived in California. Had a bigger house. Skipped thr letterman jacket and went straight to being University President and doesn't need the salary.

He (Brad) is definitely a badass.

Probably accomplishes more before 8am than Rifle does all week.

 

[riflearm2]

Thinking About Moving to SoCal​

You should stop thinking. Your $160k annual income won't lead to much of a life here, but then again, anything is better than having to live in West Virginia.

If you could afford it, you should get one of these places:

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See photos and price history of this 1 bed, 1 bath, 2,620 Sq. Ft. recently sold home located at 835 Locust Ave Unit 617, Long Beach, CA 90813 that was sold on 02/29/2024 for $1085000.

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But yes, property in highly desired places to live are usually significantly more expensive than places that reasonable people consider shitholes, like West Virginia.

My neighborhood? It's full of millionaires, like me. It's full of people with numerous luxury vehicles, like me. The guy across the street has a Bentayga. Your neighbors? They park their cars on their front yards. My neighbors? Many of them have vacation properties at Big Bear, Tahoe, or other resort areas. Your neighborhood? It's full of low-income earners. My neighborhood? The kids choose from one of two public high schools which are both very highly rated (they both host welcome nights to showcase everything they have to offer to prospective students) while three very expensive private schools also get many kids from my neighborhood. Your neighborhood sends the kids to Hurricane High where they get subpar education and get to be around subpar people with subpar parents. My neighborhood has seven or eight resort style pools (all except for one is heated, but many people have their own pools/hot tubs), numerous amenity buildings, fire pits, very nice parks, high-end playgrounds, and phenomenal views everywhere including of the ocean. Your neighborhood has a highway on one side, train tracks on the other side, a bunch of industrial buildings, and a farm. My neighborhood is on tens of thousands of acres of protected land with mountain lions, coyotes, and protected animals. Your neighborhood qualifies for USDA loans.

By the way… My neighbor in Hurricane is a catcher in MLB. And that’s the 100% truth.

It's 100% a lie. Your "neighbor" plays AA baseball and earns $38k a year, which is the norm for your neighborhood. He fits right in.

It is 100% a lie that he is "a catcher in MLB." He has the same number of hits in MLB that I do.

Why do you do this to yourself?

My neighborhood has a current MLB player (I was supposed to have dinner with him and his wife on the 29th, but I flew to NY), a former World Series winning starting pitcher, and a MLB hall-of-famer. Two years ago, we also used to have a current MLB manager, but he moved to Florida. His sister and her family still live in the neighborhood.

 

[i am herdman]

You should stop thinking. Your $160k annual income won't lead to much of a life here, but then again, anything is better than having to live in West Virginia.

If you could afford it, you should get one of these places:

835 Locust Ave Unit 617, Long Beach, CA 90813 | realtor.com®

See photos and price history of this 1 bed, 1 bath, 2,620 Sq. Ft. recently sold home located at 835 Locust Ave Unit 617, Long Beach, CA 90813 that was sold on 02/29/2024 for $1085000.

www.realtor.com

835 Locust Ave Unit 413, Long Beach, CA 90813 | realtor.com®

835 Locust Ave Unit 413, Long Beach, CA 90813 is for sale. View 46 photos of this 2 bed, 1 bath, 2410 sqft. condo with a list price of $974980.

www.realtor.com

But yes, property in highly desired places to live are usually significantly more expensive than places that reasonable people consider shitholes, like West Virginia.

My neighborhood? It's full of millionaires, like me. It's full of people with numerous luxury vehicles, like me. The guy across the street has a Bentayga. Your neighbors? They park their cars on their front yards. My neighbors? Many of them have vacation properties at Big Bear, Tahoe, or other resort areas. Your neighborhood? It's full of low-income earners. My neighborhood? The kids choose from one of two public high schools which are both very highly rated (they both host welcome nights to showcase everything they have to offer to prospective students) while three very expensive private schools also get many kids from my neighborhood. Your neighborhood sends the kids to Hurricane High where they get subpar education and get to be around subpar people with subpar parents. My neighborhood has seven or eight resort style pools (all except for one is heated, but many people have their own pools/hot tubs), numerous amenity buildings, fire pits, very nice parks, high-end playgrounds, and phenomenal views everywhere including of the ocean. Your neighborhood has a highway on one side, train tracks on the other side, a bunch of industrial buildings, and a farm. My neighborhood is on tens of thousands of acres of protected land with mountain lions, coyotes, and protected animals. Your neighborhood qualifies for USDA loans.


It's 100% a lie. Your "neighbor" plays AA baseball and earns $38k a year, which is the norm for your neighborhood. He fits right in.

It is 100% a lie that he is "a catcher in MLB." He has the same number of hits in MLB that I do.

Why do you do this to yourself?

My neighborhood has a current MLB player (I was supposed to have dinner with him and his wife on the 29th, but I flew to NY), a former World Series winning starting pitcher, and a MLB hall-of-famer. Two years ago, we also used to have a current MLB manager, but he moved to Florida. His sister and her family still live in the neighborhood.

If you were smart, you wouldn't live in California. You, as high roller, would live and be in a resident in Texas, Florida, Tennessee, etc. Why are you traveling the country and making your residence in Californistan?

His neighbor might play AA ball but, I am sure if he were in the major leagues he would hit .250.

 

[riflearm2]

His neighbor might play AA ball but, I am sure if he were in the major leagues he would hit .250.

Possibly, because he hit higher than that in the minors. So the expectation, at least initially, would that he would hit lower the higher the level he goes.

Likewise, if I hit .280 in D1, the expectation would be that my average would be lower in MLB . . . yet still higher than the average pitcher's average who never practice hitting.

 

[Jartard]

 

[MichiganHerd]

I wouldn't move to California even if some of you rich guys bought me a nice estate next door to Snoop, and paid for everything else moving forward.

 

[30CAT]

Local bumpkins discover housing in major metropolitan areas is expensive, more at 7.

Prices are high because a lot of people want to live there. Go inland a bit and things get a lot less expensive. For example, if for some godforsaken reason you wanted to live in Lancaster you could get this: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/15804-Lanfair-Ave-Lake-Los-Angeles-CA-93535/20306728_zpid/ for $375k. Which is still expensive compared to, say, Culloden, but again that’s what happens when people want to live somewhere.

If people want to live there, why are they leaving in droves?

 

[30CAT]

You should stop thinking. Your $160k annual income won't lead to much of a life here, but then again, anything is better than having to live in West Virginia.

Then why are people leaving California in droves?

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Why are you traveling the country and making your residence in Californistan?

Weather? He comes home, 99% chance the weather is great.

Texas and Florida get downright brutal. I hate high humidity. Hell I might move to California, but it would be to the desert lol.

 

[riflearm2]

Then why are people leaving California in droves?

Then why are people coming to California in droves? In 2022, more than 40k Texans moved to California.

I guess they got sick of Wheelie Abbott and Lyin' Ted.

 

[30CAT]

Then why are people coming to California in droves? In 2022, more than 40k Texans moved to California.

I guess they got sick of Wheelie Abbot and Lyin' Ted.

California has lost more than it has gained. It's competing with NY.

Texas has grown its population more than any other state in the country and California has lost the most.

Funny that you used Texas in your argument. 😅

 

[Jartard]

 

[big_country90]

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Remember as a kid how we always maintained the hope that southern California would just wash off the map because of earthquakes, rains and flooding? Those were the days.

 

[i am herdman]

Kamala Harris read this below and stopped. Told Mush she needed Air Force 1 to get to an emergency in her home state.

More than 10 inches

 

[ThunderCat98]

Remember as a kid how we always maintained the hope that southern California would just wash off the map because of earthquakes, rains and flooding?

Wait. Do we not still do that?

 

[Jartard]

So I started looking at homes, just to see what’s available. Help me decide.

First…we have this 2BR, 2BA, 1,301 sq foot home for the price of $975,000. It’s less than average, very out dated and needs tons of work inside and out. But hey…it’s in SoCal.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1611-Silver-Oak-Ter-Los-Angeles-CA-90041/20852644_zpid/

Next we have this 2BR, 1BA, 1,083 sq ft home for the price of $1,090,000. While nicer than the first, it was built in 1949 and barely has room for one person and looks terribly cramped. Also has virtually no yard.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6345-Deep-Dell-Pl-Los-Angeles-CA-90068/20804933_zpid/

Let’s not pick on Los Angeles though. Let’s see what’s near Anaheim. This 4BR, 3BA 1,406 sq ft home is built in 1941, also with virtually no yard, and has a few updates but overall is pretty outdated. $950,000.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1019-N-Liberty-Ln-Anaheim-CA-92805/25159790_zpid/

Another option in Anaheim. 4 BR, 3BA, and actually has a square footage that starts with a “2.” Wait….but it’s a duplex… so only a little over 1,000 sq ft per family. It does have nice updates on the inside but the exterior is awful and, again, no yard to speak of. $950,000.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/122-S-Cherry-St-Anaheim-CA-92805/25127969_zpid/

I’m just starting the search process, but so far I’m not impressed. Doesn’t look like $1 million will get you much in Southern California. There isn’t a single house that I listed that would appraise for $300,000 in West Virginia... and that’s being generous. Shameful to waste that kind of money on such a less-than-mediocre property.

Oh well… I’ll keep looking in other parts of SoCal to see if I’m able to find anything remotely worth purchasing.

Here’s a smaller house for you. Kinda cramped with the neighbors though. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/198-Alienta-Ln-Mission-Viejo-CA-92694/325861007_zpid/

 

[riflearm2]

Here’s a smaller house for you. Kinda cramped with the neighbors though. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/198-Alienta-Ln-Mission-Viejo-CA-92694/325861007_zpid/

That’s much bigger than the ones he was posting. Math is hard.

Why would a single guy who is traveling around the world half the month in the offseason and traveling around the country half of the month during the season of the Mets need 1600 square feet and outdoor spaces? And then add in my other places?

Seems like a waste of money to me, but I guess it doesn’t really matter, because ya’ know, wealthy (sitting on a plane right now heading to have dinner with the daughter of the owner of the Sacramento Kings. First-class, because ya’ know, rich).

 

[30CAT]

That’s much bigger than the ones he was posting. Math is hard.

Why would a single guy who is traveling around the world half the month in the offseason and traveling around the country half of the month during the season of the Mets need 1600 square feet and outdoor spaces? And then add in my other places?

Seems like a waste of money to me, but I guess it doesn’t really matter, because ya’ know, wealthy (sitting on a plane right now heading to have dinner with the daughter of the owner of the Sacramento Kings).

We're all extremely impressed and envious. You lucky dog, you!

 

[riflearm2]

We're all extremely impressed and envious. You lucky dog, you!

Sir, you’ll have to wit your turn to take a picture with me. Arche always waits the longest so he can be first.

 

[30CAT]

Sir, you’ll have to wit your turn to take a picture with me. Arche always waits the longest so he can be first.

Damn you @Archetype XLIV! You're so lucky. Can you get me an autograph?

 

[Archetype XLIV]

Damn you @Archetype XLIV! You're so lucky. Can you get me an autograph?

I literally deleted the photo years ago. It was a bad choice and I regret it every day. Especially when a photo with big_country or murox would have gotten me more likes and they were also in the building.

Salt in the wound.

 

[riflearm2]

I literally deleted the photo years ago.

By delete, he means that his wife threatened to leave him if he didn’t take the picture off of the nightstand on his side of the bed. He was using it as an aphrodisiac for both of them.