You may not say that later on.more "just you wait" bullshit . . .
You may not say that later on.more "just you wait" bullshit . . .
It is not happening yet . When does this take effect?The no taxes on tips and overtime is huge for the mid and low income families and the "rich" aren't getting that.
dont hate the rich just dont understand why others than the ultra rich dont get big tax breaks. You still are missing the point. Well in my opinion no one making less than 100 thousand should be paying taxes . I know Trump mentioned 150,000 but it was not in the big bad bill that was just rammed through the house .What tax cuts do the unwealthy need, not counting the free money they get now?
If nearly half of your income is going to the government, I'd say you're entitled to clamor for tax breaks, no? Most of the tax breaks, naturally go to the filthy rich. I would like some tax breaks as well and I'm getting some.
You're problem is that you hate the rich.
Without the rich, where would the rest of us be? You only get one guess.
just dont understand why others than the ultra rich dont get big tax breaks.
Crashes do occur when the rich have almost all the money because the rich enable people to vote republican who they in turn relax regulations on banks and borrowing of money. The ultra rich take advantage of borrowing on margin in the stock market . When the market goes down the rich cannot cover or lose all their money in the market. Then it crashes even more and people make a run on the banks . Banks cant give money they already dont have. Result you have a depression. And it has happened in the past. Like I said read you history books.It’s not “guaranteed” you dolt. Medicaid is a welfare program. You and your family are indeed leeching off those of us paying for you.
The stock market crashes because the bond market cracks. It’s all about debt cycles. People, businesses, and govts taking on too much debt. The economy doesn’t crash because the rich are richer fool. You prove why you’re financially illiterate and need the taxpayer to fund your life.
It could result from too much national debt at some time if the republicans continue to give away billions in tax breaks to the ultra rich. This latest bill that passed the house will cause it to rise substantially. And with possible another one on the makes it even more possible.It’s not “guaranteed” you dolt. Medicaid is a welfare program. You and your family are indeed leeching off those of us paying for you.
The stock market crashes because the bond market cracks. It’s all about debt cycles. People, businesses, and govts taking on too much debt. The economy doesn’t crash because the rich are richer fool. You prove why you’re financially illiterate and need the taxpayer to fund your life.
The ultra wealth are not paying 50 percent for starters. You are way out of tune with what they are supposed to pay to start with and what they actually pay. Did you not hear what what the Wizard of Omaha said.? He said it is not right that I pay a less percentage of earnings than my secretary does. Is he not an intelligent man of great success and knowledge?The ultra wealthy are paying nearly 50% of their income in taxes.
Those making 100k or less pay about 0% to 12%.
I'm not understanding the "big tax breaks" those making 100k or less deserve. Can you elaborate?
What would you say to a flat tax?
Everyone pays their fair share. Guess who would get the biggest tax breaks?
How does authority rule take the place of democracy?You say that like it's something to be ashamed of.
I'm all for making America great again. It's a shame everyone isn't.
Someday you or family may need Medicaid so dont be so calling people leeches.It could result from too much national debt at some time if the republicans continue to give away billions in tax breaks to the ultra rich. This latest bill that passed the house will cause it to rise substantially. And with possible another one on the makes it even more possible.
The ultra wealth are not paying 50 percent for starters. You are way out of tune with what they are supposed to pay to start with and what they actually pay
How does authority rule take the place of democracy?
The rich enable people to vote republican??? 😂 😂 😂Crashes do occur when the rich have almost all the money because the rich enable people to vote republican who they in turn relax regulations on banks and borrowing of money. The ultra rich take advantage of borrowing on margin in the stock market . When the market goes down the rich cannot cover or lose all their money in the market. Then it crashes even more and people make a run on the banks . Banks cant give money they already dont have. Result you have a depression. And it has happened in the past. Like I said read you history books.
More hypocrisy. You sat silent over generations and the trillions spent. You have little to no important input now.It could result from too much national debt at some time if the republicans continue to give away billions in tax breaks to the ultra rich. This latest bill that passed the house will cause it to rise substantially.
You're too dumb to read and comprehend this, but I'll try and post it (AGAIN).The ultra wealth are not paying 50 percent for starters.
Apparently, your family doesn't need welfare. But your using it anyway.Someday you or family may need Medicaid so dont be so calling people leeches.
There you go contradicting yourself again. I thought you were bitching about deregulation and limited govt involvement throughout this thread. Now your attempting to say "authoritarian" rule?How does authority rule take the place of democracy?
It is not happening yet . When does this take effect?
And that they should. But now Trump wants the upper 50 percent to pay less so there goes the deficit higher. You don t get it do you? Do you know that when the federal income was first started that only the top 7 percent were required to pay income tax? So you think it ok to make lower income people suffer and make the ultra rich more wealthy . Then you vote against yourself CAT.Then those who are making 100k or less are paying less than what is being said.
Now what?
Reality: Our Tax Foundation says the top 1% pays over 45% of what our government takes in, which is our federal budget.
So no, I'm not wrong. I didn't pull the figures out of my ass.
Look it up. Don't just say I'm wrong.
And the top 50% pays 98% of our country's budget.
That is only part of governing. Deregulation is good for many things I agree but be careful how you deregulate banks. This has caused depression and recessions . Check it out Raleigh. Again you try and paint everything in black and white with no variation.There you go contradicting yourself again. I thought you were bitching about deregulation and limited govt involvement throughout this thread. Now your attempting to say "authoritarian" rule?
Seriously man. Just go sit in the rocking chair and collect your checks. You're welcome.
I am not using it . My son does not collect food stamps. Just a disability check and most of his doctor and medicine is paid for . My daughters have their own families and they dont pay my bills. Is the Republican party not the party of the rich? I understand how some MAGA vote against themselves but it is the party of the rich.The rich enable people to vote republican??? 😂 😂 😂
Just stop. You dont have to be rich to buy on margin in the stock market. Anyone that has a brokerage account and buys stock is provided margin amounts. It has nothing to do with the rich. Seriously. Just stop.
Bond markets control the world. Bond markets control the business cycle. Bond markets control the economy. Bond markets control the banks. Bond markets control the govt. Not the stock market.
More hypocrisy. You sat silent over generations and the trillions spent. You have little to no important input now.
You're too dumb to read and comprehend this, but I'll try and post it (AGAIN).
Oldie probably too lazy to open and read
A common refrain from many progressive lawmakers is that the rich don’t pay their fair share of taxes. “Fair share” is, of course, subjective. But a new Treasury study provides data showing that the rich not only pay more than the middle class, they pay more than one-third of their annual income in federal taxes and more than 45 percent when state and local taxes are included.
Indeed, the total tax burden on the super-wealthy, especially those with large stakes in global businesses, is upwards of 60 percent of their annual income because of the taxes they pay abroad
Apparently, your family doesn't need welfare. But your using it anyway.
That^^^^is EXACTLY what they support.So you think it ok to make lower income people suffer and make the ultra rich more wealthy .
You dont even know the meaning of Communism . Just a word Republicans throw out there to every Democrat that runs for office. You going to tell me that Democrats dont believe in Capitalism . That is nonsense.Was Commie a nominee by democracy?
Was Hilliary?
No. But I didn't hear you complain.
Trump was nominated and won the presidency by democracy. homObama was the last Democratic presidential nominee elected by democracy.
What gives?
I am not using it . My son does not collect food stamps. Just a disability check and most of his doctor and medicine is paid for . My daughters have their own families and they dont pay my bills. Is the Republican party not the party of the rich? I understand how some MAGA vote against themselves but it is the party of the rich.
What percentage of tips are actually used on tax returns? This is really a much smaller thing than it appears.![]()
I'm tired of being your news source for information, gramps.
It doesn't help those that need help the most... AT ALL.What percentage of tips are actually used on tax returns? This is really a much smaller thing than it appears.
calm down, hypo, your crite's getting in the way. you prix throw around "nazi", "fascist", and other derogatory terms in the direction of trump and his supporters like those words are going out of style. "hypocrisy", look it up.You dont even know the meaning of Communism . Just a word Republicans throw out there to every Democrat that runs for office. You going to tell me that Democrats dont believe in Capitalism . That is nonsense.
a large percentage. i do the books, both payroll and general bookkeeping for multiple restaurants. on average, cash sales account for less than 20% of their gross sales, the same can be said for tips as when the over 80% crowd of credit/debit card payers pays their bill, they also tip using the same method. annnnd, tips from debit/credit cards are included in employees' pay checks and added to their W2.What percentage of tips are actually used on tax returns? This is really a much smaller thing than it appears.
i know of multiple locations with multiple employees pulling in over $1,000 in credit/debit card tips on each paycheck
You really are clueless aren't you? Your cliche's are as tired and worn out as you are. Wall St. and the banks are democrat controlled. Hollywood is liberal democrat controlled. Big Tech is democrat controlled. Big media is liberal democrat controlled.Republican party not the party of the rich?
Actually, I am the only one in our conversation that is providing variation and nuance to the topic. You're a broken record ("Trump bad", "republicans rich") moronic babble, repeat.Again you try and paint everything in black and white with no variation.
The definition of irony.You dont even know the meaning of Communism . Just a word Republicans throw out there to every Democrat that runs for office.
So, tell me how the rich "make" me poorer. (This will be comedy gold if he tries to answer)So you think it ok to make lower income people suffer and make the ultra rich more wealthy
And that they should. But now Trump wants the upper 50 percent to pay less so there goes the deficit higher. You don t get it do you? Do you know that when the federal income was first started that only the top 7 percent were required to pay income tax? So you think it ok to make lower income people suffer and make the ultra rich more wealthy . Then you vote against yourself CAT.
You dont even know the meaning of Communism
When my late wife was waitress they hardly put tips on her w2 . Most tips were on the table . Like extragreen said the bill hardly gives any help for the average person once you figure out the higher inflation plus loss of jobs which will bring us to stagflation and eventually worse.calm down, hypo, your crite's getting in the way. you prix throw around "nazi", "fascist", and other derogatory terms in the direction of trump and his supporters like those words are going out of style. "hypocrisy", look it up.
a large percentage. i do the books, both payroll and general bookkeeping for multiple restaurants. on average, cash sales account for less than 20% of their gross sales, the same can be said for tips as when the over 80% crowd of credit/debit card payers pays their bill, they also tip using the same method. annnnd, tips from debit/credit cards are included in employees' pay checks and added to their W2.
so, chalk this up to yet another subject that yore completely clueless on, it's a much larger "thing" than you think. hell, i know of multiple locations with multiple employees pulling in over $1,000 in credit/debit card tips on each paycheck . . . and that's in BFE-WV.
if the gutter slut would have won the election and done this as she stated she would (copying one of trump's campaign promises, of course) you dolts would think it's the greatest tax break ever made. however, since it's trump . . .
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I am listening to every wanna be dictator that nut has to say. Look at the Harvard thing. Disgusting what he is doing to this country.But you dont even see any of it.Do you know what Democracy means?
I'm beginning to wonder.
How about this:
Was Hilliary, Pedo-Joe and The Toe nominated democratically?
It's such an easy question, I'll answer for you. Hell no they weren't.
And your herders tell you that Trump is a "threat to democracy" while being a threat to democracy.
Do you all even listen to what they are saying?
For crying out loud.
You will wind up gaining nothing when it said and done. Only ones will gain from it are the ultra rich and Trump and his cronies.They can pay less because Trump is removing a lot of fraud and waste.
Taxpayers are only getting the savings
Who's suffering? Who do you think should get the savings?
I'm afraid it is you who doesn't get it.
Go on believing the lies Tump puts for . He is a pathalogical liar and a con man self serving himself and the ultra rich at the expense of the rest of us. Plain and simple CATDo you know what Democracy means?
I'm beginning to wonder.
How about this:
Was Hilliary, Pedo-Joe and The Toe nominated democratically?
It's such an easy question, I'll answer for you. Hell no they weren't.
And your herders tell you that Trump is a "threat to democracy" while being a threat to democracy.
Do you all even listen to what they are saying?
For crying out loud.
You say you are in a business . Do the richer companies compete against you.? Dont the average person buy more of whatever you are selling.? Does laying off people and raising tariffs hurt your business. If not you are one lucky business man.The definition of irony.
So, tell me how the rich "make" me poorer. (This will be comedy gold if he tries to answer)
Trump is not bad he is horrible. Republican party is the party of the rich thrown in now with a new who knows what MAGA bunch.Actually, I am the only one in our conversation that is providing variation and nuance to the topic. You're a broken record ("Trump bad", "republicans rich") moronic babble, repeat.
Big media seems to be controlled by Fox and other right leaning news now. There are plenty more rich Republicans than the Hollywood people and big tech . You forgot to mention big oil, big pharma, big agriculture just to name a few.You really are clueless aren't you? Your cliche's are as tired and worn out as you are. Wall St. and the banks are democrat controlled. Hollywood is liberal democrat controlled. Big Tech is democrat controlled. Big media is liberal democrat controlled.
This is why I asked you to stop. You're showing just how ignorant you are. Repubs haven't been the "party of the rich" since at least the Kennedy administration.
Go on believing the lies Tump puts for . He is a pathalogical liar and a con man self serving himself and the ultra rich at the expense of the rest of us. Plain and simple CAT
You just keep looking foolish with this. Big pharma controlled by many many Europeans. (Socialist). Big Ag, largely international conglomerates who pay off anyone in office. Big oil???? Please. You mean the Saudis?Big media seems to be controlled by Fox and other right leaning news now. There are plenty more rich Republicans than the Hollywood people and big tech . You forgot to mention big oil, big pharma, big agriculture just to name a few.
It’s all you have left. Moronic babble.Trump is not bad he is horrible. Republican party is the party of the rich thrown in now with a new who knows what MAGA bunch.
well, it seems times have changed over the past 60 or 70 years, believe it or not, and people are more apt to pay with plastic than cash now.When my late wife was waitress they hardly put tips on her w2 . Most tips were on the table . Like extragreen said the bill hardly gives any help for the average person once you figure out the higher inflation plus loss of jobs which will bring us to stagflation and eventually worse.
The unfair competition of the trade system creates limits and props up big companies and allows them to limit competition. This in turn, holds smaller companies back, limits their hiring and growth. As usual. You have it exactly backwards.You say you are in a business . Do the richer companies compete against you.? Dont the average person buy more of whatever you are selling.? Does laying off people and raising tariffs hurt your business. If not you are one lucky business man.