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Trump economy worse than even Carter....

It is really bad out there, I will tell you that. Said no one with half a brain.

Record year last year for me, and also my company. And this year is starting out even faster.

We're a manufacturer who makes products for use in commercial and light industrial construction. So businesses sure are building a lot of crap for the economy to be in such shambles.
 
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This headline cracks me up. The economy under Trump is way better. To be honest I have always felt Carter bore the brunt of f actors beyond his control.Carter took over in a time of"stagflation",the economy experienced a combination of high inflation and slow economic growth. None of this is true today.
 
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Gasoline shortages, and interest rates in the teens.

Yes. Take me back to the 70’s economy.....(says no one).
 
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Bottom line: some can claim the economy is great for them under Trump. Others would argue it is just good, or maybe even still leaving behind the people he appealed to. But to say it is THE BEST is a lie. And that is what Trump has claimed. Of course, he is full of shit...on a daily basis, at that.
 
Bottom line: some can claim the economy is great for them under Trump. Others would argue it is just good, or maybe even still leaving behind the people he appealed to. But to say it is THE BEST is a lie. And that is what Trump has claimed. Of course, he is full of shit...on a daily basis, at that.
This is being serious. There is a segment, maybe even a large segment, of the population that has not realized you better get a skills set of some sort. Go get a certification in HVAC, welding, mechcanic, electronics, something. I you have no skill set or bring no value to a company then you are going to be left out and behind. Regardless of who the POTUS is.

That is part of the problem and much of the low skilled labor in many locations has gone to the immigrant and not the working or low class black man or white man. They end up working in fast food and wonder why they can't make a living. Serious issue. Where I live you are not going to say well I will go work on a framing crew or landscape crew. The immigrants have that wrapped up. You are not going to be a painter, carpenter, or dry waller either. Those days are gone. So, you better go get something of value.

But, then you have someone like that congresswoman bringing in a fast food worker talking why he can't make it. I am be serious. He bring no value to a company. Same kid his age goes and gets a cert on HVAC and is making $25 bucks an hour .
 
It’s all Michael Bloomberg positioning for president. You know make the guy in charge look bad.
 
This is being serious. There is a segment, maybe even a large segment, of the population that has not realized you better get a skills set of some sort. Go get a certification in HVAC, welding, mechcanic, electronics, something. I you have no skill set or bring no value to a company then you are going to be left out and behind. Regardless of who the POTUS is.
No the bottom line is the economy is not the greatest ever.
 
This is being serious. There is a segment, maybe even a large segment, of the population that has not realized you better get a skills set of some sort. Go get a certification in HVAC, welding, mechcanic, electronics, something. I you have no skill set or bring no value to a company then you are going to be left out and behind. Regardless of who the POTUS is.

That is part of the problem and much of the low skilled labor in many locations has gone to the immigrant and not the working or low class black man or white man. They end up working in fast food and wonder why they can't make a living. Serious issue. Where I live you are not going to say well I will go work on a framing crew or landscape crew. The immigrants have that wrapped up. You are not going to be a painter, carpenter, or dry waller either. Those days are gone. So, you better go get something of value.

But, then you have someone like that congresswoman bringing in a fast food worker talking why he can't make it. I am be serious. He bring no value to a company. Same kid his age goes and gets a cert on HVAC and is making $25 bucks an hour .

There is absolutely no excuse that we can't up the minimum wage. 50 years ago minimum wage workers had the purchasing power of $11.79 in todays money. You can't, with any integrity, shrug off the fact that low skill workers still have to pay bills. An 87.5% minimum wage increase has already been done in this country (and it was done overnight, not in phases) without the nation dooming predictions of how the economy would suffer. That same increase now would come to $13.59. No excuses.
 
This is being serious. There is a segment, maybe even a large segment, of the population that has not realized you better get a skills set of some sort. Go get a certification in HVAC, welding, mechcanic, electronics, something. I you have no skill set or bring no value to a company then you are going to be left out and behind.

Let's say everyone does this. There are not enough jobs in these areas in small and medium town America. And I totally agree with you on what skills are in demand, there just isn't enough demand if suddenly every one did this. The skill level right below these fields and high tech manufacturing is where the angst is. These are the jobs that are not coming back; as much as you and others think the job numbers show otherwise it just is not true. Automation is a big part of it as well.

Y'all can mock that NYC woman and others all you want, but the future is a minimum income for lower and no skill folks. These people will always exist, but automation is bad enough now for them and will be exploding in complexity and ability very soon.
 
Can you explain why you cannot refrain from lying? Seriously, you need help that probably isn't available.anywbere, ever.

Must folks who are forced into "retirement" will claim they made the decision. It's okay Greed, just embrace your lie.
 
There simply isn’t enough people going to get certifications in the work Herdman mentions (hvac, plumbing, welding, etc) . And it’s not just in growing markets like NC. This kind of work is available all over the country.
For new construction it can be highly cyclical, but on the repair and replace side, opportunities are endless if you’re willing to put a couple years of grunt work.

High tech manufacturing skills are in high demand. I keep hearing there simply isn’t enough trained/skilled people to fill those jobs. This leads to one of the problems I have with both companies and those that could fill those jobs on a mass scale. Companies don’t seem willing to hire, then train/apprentice those employees to do what they need....and the potential employee isn’t willing to be hired and then work at apprentice level pay until they are skilled. It’s a bit of a catch 22, that needs to change, IMO.
 
An 87.5% minimum wage increase has already been done in this country (and it was done overnight, not in phases) without the nation dooming predictions of how the economy would suffer.

50 years ago minimum wage workers had the purchasing power of $11.79 in todays money


50 years ago (1969) someone working a minimum wage job made $1.45 hour with inflation exceeding 5%. By 1975 minimum wage had been moved to +$2/hr. The 2nd recession in 5 years was starting, an unemployment rate of 9%, inflation hitting +11% (1974), contributing to the stagflation seen by mid to late 70’s.
 
There is absolutely no excuse that we can't up the minimum wage. 50 years ago minimum wage workers had the purchasing power of $11.79 in todays money. You can't, with any integrity, shrug off the fact that low skill workers still have to pay bills. An 87.5% minimum wage increase has already been done in this country (and it was done overnight, not in phases) without the nation dooming predictions of how the economy would suffer. That same increase now would come to $13.59. No excuses.
Go ahead. But, they still won't be able to live or support a family of it.

You have to get a skill set if you are going to make it today.
 
Can you explain why you cannot refrain from lying? Seriously, you need help that probably isn't available.anywbere, ever.

HE'S SHOWING OFF THE TRUMP UNIVERSITY DIPLOMA - MAJOR IN LYING YOUR ASS OFF.
 
HE'S SHOWING OFF THE TRUMP UNIVERSITY DIPLOMA - MAJOR IN LYING YOUR ASS OFF.

This, from the guy who has told the most lies of anyone about his background, profession, former MU football player, etc, etc.

Yeah, you have lots of room to talk, psycho.
 
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