UCF. I'll just leave this right here....
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But, it's just the American. They aren't any better than CUSA.
What I watched tonight is light years better than ANY CUSA game I saw the last few seasons - on all fronts.
That was a great game between UCF and USF. Crowd was awesome.
What I watched tonight is light years better than ANY CUSA game I saw the last few seasons - on all fronts.
That was a great game between UCF and USF. Crowd was awesome.
I think the real takeaway is it's amazing how little time a real coach needs to make a program a winner.
It’s amazing how far the American has come in just a few short years. Having a great commissioner helps a great deal as well. The American moved a step closer to gaining legitimacy tonight. Marshall has to keep working to position itself for the next round of alignment.
What exactly does toward “legitimacy” mean to you?
The American is already the best G5 and that’s the conference’s ceiling. Nothing more.
Not necessarily, I can see the playoff expanding to 8 and if so I think the AAC is allowed into that group. I think it’ll soon expand to each conference champ and 2 at large bids, which means the AAC will be part of that
Why would the P5 conferences allow that? Don’t forget the Big 12 passed on taking the best of the best from The American in expansion just a few months ago. Look at UCF’s ranking. They’re rolling people and are barely inside the top 15.
If the playoffs go to eight (which I hope they do) it’ll be the five P5 champs and three at large or the five P5 champs, two at large and the highest ranked G5. If it’s the latter The American is in the exact same position it’s in today.
As we learned last year, ONE game does not a season, let alone a league make. If what you saw yesterday reminds you of what goes on in the True Majors, you need to get out more. It was a nice mid-major game. Nothing more.
Sports is a business. Blunt reality is that the power 5, and ESPN who runs it, are out to make money. And the level of fan support in that league, week on week, year on year, is tiny compared to what goes on in it betters. No major bowl want to be told that it is stuck automatically with some fanless 9-3 AAC team some year because someone over-reacted to ONE year that ONE team had ONCE.
Sports is a business. Blunt reality is that the power 5, and ESPN who runs it, are out to make money. And the level of fan support in that league, week on week, year on year, is tiny compared to what goes on in it betters. No major bowl want to be told that it is stuck automatically with some fanless 9-3 AAC team some year because someone over-reacted to ONE year that ONE team had ONCE.
I think Aresco Ian growing tired of the American being left out and with his ties to tv I can see him raising cain. Who knows but I think they went a step closer to P6 yesterday
I predict that the Big 12, rather than implode in the next round of TV negotiations, will invite UCF and one other AAC team to be a member (probably a northeast school) to give WVU a travel partner and either BYU and one Mountain West team or two MW teams. UCF would have beaten ALL the other Florida teams this year except Miami had they played.
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Do you think ESPN puts the American on ABC at 3 30 during a prime spot because they believe in charity? No. It’s a business as you say and ESPN benefits for the American and yesterday’s game.
The American will be on ABC next Saturday as well with their conference championship. Is that charity? No, it’s business and the American is good cheap business for Espn.
No doubt the American is at the top of the G5 pile. That is the ceiling. The college football elites have already spoken guys. They are trying to keep as much money as possible among themselves, not split the pot even more ways. If anything with the ESPN gravy train in trouble they wouldn't even consider that IMO.
And that is the cynical nature of ESPN. Sure, they will dangle the ethereal "big time" status before the AAC, or Boise St. or even the MAC. Whatever. At the end of the day, ESPN knows what teams have what fans. It will make a few $$ with this game. Nice. Good for Disney. They also will smack down that, or any league, if it needs to.
That has NOTHING to do with all of this "power 6" idiocy. This is a different, lower, level, with different, lesser, players. They had a good year, once. So has Marshall, Western Michigan, Boise State, Toledo, and a dozen more. It is a one time thing. It is not sustainable. Which is why, next year or the year after or the year after that, the AAC will produce a 9-3 champion from among it fanless wonders. Which is why Disney has the sense to no announce the schedule until the week before, and why none of the major bowls wants stuck in such a situation automatically. Which is why the AAC will be kept just where it is, no matter what idiotic crap they paint on their yard markers.
The Mac is flirts with Big Time? Ok...Marshall should hope AAC gets a Power recognition because this is Marshall best shot to climb out of Cusa hell. Truth is only about 7 teams in College football can claim truly elite status, every one is is close to each other in skill and in potential.
Games like yesterday make it harder for the inside guys to deny what is happening in the AAC. In my opinion AAC would look to handful of expansion teams if needed and Marshall has a name worthy of being mentioned.
Time will tell but right now they have as many teams in the top 25 as the B12 does. I wouldn’t use the B12 business model as a path to success given they have been left out more than any other P5 conference to date.
Temple probably most likely after UCF. The decision will be made on market, not team. Orlando market is obvious as well as Florida recruiting. The NY/Philadelphia market is obvious as well. Huge population center and NY media.
After BYU, Boise or Air Force out of MWC. Save this post for future. I will be correct in my predictions.
USF will be picked up by one of the P5 conferences for the same reason UCF will go to B12. The MWC will then absorb selected teams from CUSA- West and the AAC will absorb selected teams from CUSA- East. We should hope to be one of those teams. But just like the tragedy of joining CUSA only to see the best teams leave, the same will occur when (and if) we join the new AAC. I see no other future.
UCF over 50,000 students....and let's not compare athletic budgets!
We are who we are, and have to deal with what we have.
We are who we are, and have to deal with what we have.
Sad-Sam...are you ever a happy person? Everything you write always has a NEGATIVE air about it. I bet you dress like the white bearded guy in a long gown with hoodie.... yielding an cycle....praying over dead folks!
Can't wait to see what you have to spew about WVU today @ Oklahoma with Charlotte's Will Grier out for the season. Grier would have made the contest a close one. He flew to Charlotte this week for his surgery.
Merry Christmas...
HerdZilla2 in Charlotte
I disagree about the “no hope for Playoff” comment.
Let’s say if, IF, we run the table and end up beating someone like USC or Wisconsin in the Peach, with most everyone returning on this team, I say we easily start preseason Top 12. At least.
That’s huge. Like it or not preseason rankings generate attention and “validation”. If we start Top 12 and can run the table again next year, beating Pitt and UNC along the way, I think UCF is absolutely at least in the Playoff discussion.
Let’s say if, IF, we run the table and end up beating someone like USC or Wisconsin in the Peach, with most everyone returning on this team, I say we easily start preseason Top 12. At least.
That’s huge. Like it or not preseason rankings generate attention and “validation”. If we start Top 12 and can run the table again next year, beating Pitt and UNC along the way, I think UCF is absolutely at least in the Playoff discussion.
Everyone returning except Scott Frost.
But yeah, I agree, if UCF goes 27-0 over a two year period they absolutely might be in the discussion. Tall task, though.
This I do agree with. And as I stated that was the best cfb game I’ve seen a very long time, congrats
CUSA is not even the best FCS conference.
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CUSA is not even the best FCS conference.
I mean, yeah, CUSA stinks.
Sorry Herdnificent every time someone plays the money card I’m going to respond. The same school with 50k worth of students and a great budget went 0-12 in 2015 and 6-7 in 2016. By the logic that Herd fans tie everything to money that should never happen.
Scott Frost is what happened to UCF not students or money. He had been an OC for 2 years that’s it at Oregon. We could definitely get a good P5 offensive coordinator to be our head coach if our position came available.
Before anybody says but he’s only going to be there two years and then bolt there is nobody on this board that wouldn’t take a coach that in 2 years gives us a top 10 finish and an Access Bowl appearance.
Sam still jealous of UCF. They have went forwards and we improved this year but nothing like UCF
AAC East - UCONN, Temple, ECU, UCF, USF, Cincy, Marshall, Navy
AAC West - Tulane, Houston, SMU, Tulsa, UAB, Memphis, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech
That should be the AAC
AAC West - Tulane, Houston, SMU, Tulsa, UAB, Memphis, Southern Miss, Louisiana Tech
That should be the AAC
I think Frost has more chance of coming back then you think.
Huge $$$ figures being talked about
Marine, you think there's a chance that ECU will can their head coach after this disastrous season? Believe MU's own Tony Peterson is the OC down there.
This is in no way meant to minimize your nice run, but you're smoking crack.
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