They money UCF could offer him will be labeled as meh. You can’t match these lottery winner paychecks that Florida or Nebraska will offer.
UCF. I'll just leave this right here....
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Look, UCF is a very good job. Maybe the best G5 job in the country. But that’s the rub, my friend. In the end UCF has a ceiling. If Florida or Nebraska offer Frost he’s going to leave and it won’t be about money.
No way Nebraska won't go all out to bring their native son home.
I've seen reports that Florida might offer Frost $8M to secure him
I still think he ends up in Nebraska.
I still think he ends up in Nebraska.
Chris Fowler says Frost to Nebraska is a done deal and has been for awhile:
What is "going on" in the AAC is mid-major football. Part of the fun of mid-major football, which the P6 / anti their four brother conferences idiocy lessens, is that most every year some team plays "giant killer". It has been us, and lots of programs before and after us.
It does not stay in one place, or even one conference. It moves around. This year it is UCF. Next year? Five years from now? No one knows, which is why dumbass ideas like including this lesser conference in with the five big ones are mostly born of people with frames of reference measured in months.
If you watched this last weekend of the regular season, with all the huge rivalries, and confused anything going on in the AAC with that, well you need to watch a lot more football.
UC/SF, and perhaps more importantly for us FA/IU have found a unique business plan. HUGE schools able to fund athletics across 10s of 1000s of students, despite having no real fan base, no boosters, and not much student interest. Maybe this will work, maybe not. The time period these upstarts have even existed is way too short to know. I do know that the traditional way of students, fans, and boosters works all over the country.
I also know that, even with the awful years UF and FSU have had, all directional Floridas remain speck in an SEC / ACC ocean. And always will.
I guess you would say he has DOUBLE the chance than most would say.....and you're RIGHT!
Because most say he only has a 1% chance of coming back. Don't worry, it is the #1 G5 job, and will have no shortage of qualified applicants. Of course, 2018 recruiting is dead, and there will be transfers out.
It’s still a very good job, though. The only negatives are the local recruiting base is terrible and the weather for 3-4 months in the football offseason is rough.
IMHO he could have the Tennessee or Florida jobs if he wanted. But people underestimate Frost’s affinity for his alma mater. He didn’t just play at Nebraska, he’s a Nebraska native. Those roots run deep.
Honestly I feel the G5 would be best served reorganizing into 4 16 team regional conferences.
Funny how they cancelled a game with Georgia Tech but had an FCS game. Actually, 2 FCS games. Of course the hurricane is the reason for the GT and other FCS game cancelled. People on here ignore that, prop up UCF like they're godly, but when MU has an FCS game, holy crap they raise hell.
ucf has had 1 good season this year, their coach is gone, and will regress back into mediocrity with their commissioner shaking his fist at the sky of "P6!!!!" To ayone who'll listen.
I would love to see CUSA or MWC or even Sunbelt teams get into the CFP if it expanded like was said, win it, and basically do everything AAC's commish has tried to do without actually doing it.
The way it REALLY happened was:
Had games scheduled with Maine and GT. The hurricane wiped out the Memphis and GT game. Was able to reschedule the Memphis game, but had to cancel Maine (same weekend). GT could not re-schedule.
So at one point, it was only a 10 game schedule. UCF offered to play anyone FBS or FCS who would come to Orlando (both Maine and GT were home games) on the last off-weekend. Austin Peay was the only program to accept. So anyone that complains about the schedule needs to be reminded that they haven't had an off weekend since mid September.
Schiano is now the UT HC. We've had experiences with ohio state DC's becoming head coaches, lol.
Nebraska is still an attractive job. However, compared to the rest of the Big 10, its pretty average.
In the Big 12, they had their own identity along with OU and UT.
Now they have to share with osu, Michigan, PSU, MSU, and a few others each year.
You don't have to look very hard or far to see the true value of the AAC. Its still miles behind the worst P5 conference, Big 12.
Your two top programs weren't invited, even being given a call back; Memphis and UCF...and both were some of the loudest mouths when it came to consideration.
I'm sure AAC's commish loves the loyalty and that even the schools he props up, are ready to leave him behind at the first sign.
Is the AAC further ahead than CUSA and G5? Yes. But they, in the grand scheme of things, are not anywhere near as valued as they claim to be or when compared to the rest of the P5.
Its frustrating that when CUSA needed leadership and strong collective minds, we not only didn't have those, but our current commish's lone accomplishment is her gender.
This is kind of what I have been saying and it more or less focuses on fan support. Why is it difficult for a place like USF or UCF to fill up their stadium? It took an undefeated season and the commish basically beating ucf in the locals' heads to get fans to show up.
USF spent the majority of the year ranked, had a big name coach, and still had less of a turnout than anyone.
Its because the lack of consistency in retaining coaches and keeping programs going.
One drawback about your program being propped up is it makes it easier for bigger and better programs to take notice and pluck your coaching staff.
And then you have to gamble on someone new...you could win an Access Bowl or go 0-12 like ucf had happen to them in 2 years.
The fans also know this, which is why its difficult to generate excitement for something entirely unknown. They're excited this year because after 10 games, they are ranked and basically New Years bowl bound...but next season? They'll have accepted their coach left and the new one will too if he wins 8 games. Nobody in the G5 minus Marshall and Boise and maybe someone else, expects their HC to be back next season after the kind of season Frost has had.
Just look at Houston...once their HC bolted, they regressed so badly they lost to Tulane this year. TULANE!!!
Already some folks mad at Tenn
Yikes.
But UT, I think, jumped the gun. They should have taken their time with the HC search. They got a guy who couldn't win in the Big 10 nor the NFL as a HC and was ok at ohio state.
One good season? They went 12-1 a few years ago with wins over Penn State and a top 10 Louisville. They went 9-4 two years ago.
12-1
9-4
a disaster year with an interim head coach
11-0
Not exactly "has had 1 good season."
You really should learn what you are talking about before making attempts.
Last year, Houston went 9-4. This year, after losing a ton of talent and starters, they are 7-4 with a win over Arizona and a 3 point loss to Texas Tech.
Houston this year isn't much different than Houston last year with their old head coach. The differences is that this year's team lost a ton of starters, talent, and experience.
He was the Rutgers head coach forever, however, my mistake was he was head coach when they joined the Big 10. He had already departed for the NFL when they joined. My bad.
I also don't think he would have had much success as Rutgers head coach while in the Big 10 anyway.
Funny how a team NOT named Marshall, gets the benefit of the excuse, "they lost all their talent and starters" but my God when it realistically happens to us, it's not an excuse.
9-4 the year before, where they lost to Navy, SMU, SDSU, and Memphis. Those losses weren't bad at all.
I highly doubt this year's Houston could win with their schedule of last year.
So 2 wins less than the year before? Gotcha. Yeah, totally the same team, bwahahaha. They also lost to a horrible Tulsa and Tulane team...losses that would get you in the hot seat if you coached at MU.
I know they had to cancel the UTSA game, who could have beaten them too, considering who they already lost to.
Its one thing to lose to someone who is legitimate, like Navy or SDSU, its something else when you lose to Tulane or a 2-10 Tulsa team.
So, losing to a 5-7 SMU (3-5 in the American) isn't "bad at all" when it helps your argument. But losing to a 5-7 (3-5 in the American) Tulane is bad when it helps your argument.
Do you see why people laugh at you? You're arguing that it isn't bad at all to lose to a 5-7 (3-5) AAC team, but then turn around and claim that is bad to lose to a 5-7 (3-5) AAC team when it helps your argument. Moron.
This year's Houston schedule is ranked 70th. Last year's Houston schedule was ranked 76th. Let me dumb that down for you:
You're saying that a 7-4 (5-3) Houston team facing a #70 schedule couldn't go 9-4 (5-3) with a #76 schedule. Do you realize how dumb you sound yet? Every single time you try to cover your previous mistake, you continue to bomb with your new excuse.
What? I said they weren't the same team. I said that last year's Houston team lost a ton of talent and experience. But you're saying that a 9-4 team is much different than a 7-4 team with a harder schedule? Just stop. You sound dumber and dumber the more you post.
This year they're losing to teams they shouldn't lose to you idiot. But hey, keep trying real hard...it's kinda sad how much effort you put into arguing with people you don't know. the best part is I got you so worked up over something so utterly meaningless. I can't imagine how much of a failure you'd be at coaching, let alone really anything involving responsibility.
This year's Houston team has taken a step back. I don't know what they're going to be like next season but it appears they are no longer the top dog in the AAC. They were slated to win the whole thing last year and maybe even CFP contention. This year, not picked to win it at all despite you saying, "there isn't much difference." Also, if you did this wonderful little technique called "reading" I had said who they lost to was pretty bad, and in the eyes of MU fans, it would be threads calling for the head coach.
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