UK doctor strike

[herdfan429]

Looks like nhs is experiencing a doctor strike right now. The junior doctors over there are demanding a 35a% pay raise. They only make about $17/hr

Britain braces for 'unparalleled' disruption from doctors' strike

Tens of thousands of junior doctors go on strike.

www.reuters.com

 

[i am herdman]

$17 an hour? For a doctor? I want mine making that a minute.

 

[MichiganHerd]

I know a couple witch doctors in Zimbabwe that ride zebras to work that make more than $17 per hour.

 

[Marshall Jeff]

Socialized medicine

 

[marshallisqbu]

I probably made about 18 dollars an hour as a resident. Not much off but I think their training is much longer.

 

[Rock98Dog]

The current average resident salary in Ohio is over $55,000. US average is $57,000.

 

[ohio herd]

Looks like nhs is experiencing a doctor strike right now. The junior doctors over there are demanding a 35a% pay raise. They only make about $17/hr

Britain braces for 'unparalleled' disruption from doctors' strike

Tens of thousands of junior doctors go on strike.

www.reuters.com

how stupid is that. Maybe they can get hired at a McDonalds in Seattle where the average pay for a fry chief is 19 hour

 

[-CarlHungus-]

Health care (and applies to many others). Pick two of three.

1. Quick/efficient
2. Low cost
3. High Quality

 

[i am herdman]

Health care (and applies to many others). Pick two of three.

1. Quick/efficient
2. Low cost
3. High Quality

You obviously have to have #3 as the first pick.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

Health care (and applies to many others). Pick two of three.

1. Quick/efficient
2. Low cost
3. High Quality

Build it fast and cheap, you say?

 

[-CarlHungus-]

You obviously have to have #3 as the first pick.

Maybe so.

But then can it be accessible to everyone and not break the bank?

There are trade offs.

 

[HerdandHokies]

Health care (and applies to many others). Pick two of three.

1. Quick/efficient
2. Low cost
3. High Quality

I’m confused as to which of those two you think we have, because we’re worst in the world by a lot at #2 and if you look at health outcomes we’re pretty god-awful at 3 as well, compared to other industrialized nations.

 

[-CarlHungus-]

I’m confused as to which of those two you think we have, because we’re worst in the world by a lot at #2 and if you look at health outcomes we’re pretty god-awful at 3 as well, compared to other industrialized nations.

It depends on what segment of the population, obviously.

But for speed we can't be matched. For mid to upper class quality is good.
Stage for stage cancer outcomes in the US are superior to everywhere else.

You try getting a hip replaced in Canada or getting your cardiac ablation...massive wait times as compared to US.

A lot of the comparative "health care" data reflects problems with suicide, gun violence, obesity, and awful diet/exercise more than actual health care.

Make no mistake - we have a lot of problems with health care. A lot. I have no clue how to fix it. A lot of perverse incentives and a lot of blame to go arond between insurers, we don't negotiate drug prices , huge hospital systems price gouging (the ugly secret is large academic centers buy up competitors to jack up prices for same services....compare an MRI at Stanford vs. an MRI at a free standing MRI center)...

 

[-CarlHungus-]

I’m confused as to which of those two you think we have, because we’re worst in the world by a lot at #2 and if you look at health outcomes we’re pretty god-awful at 3 as well, compared to other industrialized nations.

Assuming you have insurance with an out of pocket cap....is there somewhere else in the world other than the US you'd rather be treated?

I know what I would do/want.

 

[wvkeeper(HN)]

I’m confused as to which of those two you think we have, because we’re worst in the world by a lot at #2 and if you look at health outcomes we’re pretty god-awful at 3 as well, compared to other industrialized nations.

I love this thing people do where if I am not paying that must mean it's not expensive.

 

[From Ashes To Glory 2]

No wonder why more people are taking advantage of medical tourism, and that will become more pronounced as time goes on when the age-in qualification for Medicare is raised to 67.

 

[herdfan429]

No wonder why more people are taking advantage of medical tourism, and that will become more pronounced as time goes on when the age-in qualification for Medicare is raised to 67.

Didn’t you run from the previous thread on health care and life expectancy when you got called out or was that hokies?

 

[Marshall Jeff]

Natural/holistic is key.

 

[raleighherdfan]

I’m confused as to which of those two you think we have, because we’re worst in the world by a lot at #2 and if you look at health outcomes we’re pretty god-awful at 3 as well, compared to other industrialized nations.

Yet another ignorant post.

 

[raleighherdfan]

It depends on what segment of the population, obviously.

But for speed we can't be matched. For mid to upper class quality is good.
Stage for stage cancer outcomes in the US are superior to everywhere else.

You try getting a hip replaced in Canada or getting your cardiac ablation...massive wait times as compared to US.

A lot of the comparative "health care" data reflects problems with suicide, gun violence, obesity, and awful diet/exercise more than actual health care.

Make no mistake - we have a lot of problems with health care. A lot. I have no clue how to fix it. A lot of perverse incentives and a lot of blame to go arond between insurers, we don't negotiate drug prices , huge hospital systems price gouging (the ugly secret is large academic centers buy up competitors to jack up prices for same services....compare an MRI at Stanford vs. an MRI at a free standing MRI center)...

I’ve been saying it for a while. The problem with “costs” is the hospital/medical systems and states that have a CON permitting which limit competition. Add to that the Fed govt which encourages hospital over billing (covid), Medicare reimbursement that drives every commercial payors prices higher for covered lives.

Even with all that…No way I would want to get sick anywhere else. Western Europe healthcare is disastrous. Heart issue that requires immediate attention in Canada???good luck. If we didn’t have health insurance companies in the US, the “higher costs” would not be limited to payments or bills.