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Well...

You have no clue whether the admin and he see eye to eye. Your opinion is completely made up because as you admitted…you have no information.

The fans absolutely have a lot to do with it. This board is a microcosm of Herd nation. Quitters bitching everywhere. Those that have tried to be patient and pointing out the positives mocked endlessly.

Christ, all this from a fan who claims he doesn’t watch college sports or pay attention regularly. Ridiculous
I watch college football. I watch Marshall football regularly. I pay attention to it. I don't watch other sports regularly anymore. College football...yes.

There is obviously something going on between the admin and Coach Huff.
 
Shocked that Brad Smith wouldn't intervene if he thought keeping Huff would be best for Marshall. He would overrule Spears.
 
Quit being a loser and just admit you were wrong and move on.
Wrong about what? I have said there is obviously something wrong between the relationship between Huff and the admin. Based on my astute observations there is likely no viable solution other than him leaving. What's Marshall going to do? Play the game with this guy every season? It is obvious he doesn't really want to be at Marshall. It is really a no win for hom or the school. I've seen thus a thousand times in the real world. At some point you can't meet want the guy wants or the other way around and it ends up toxic. At some point, right or wrong, and employer is only going to out up with so much crap no matter who it is.

Frankly, I would make him an offer in good faith and if he accepts fine. If not there's another coach out there.
 
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Wrong about what? I have said there is obviously something wrong between the relationship between Huff and the admin. Based on my astute observations there is likely no viable solution other than him leaving. What's Marshall going to do? Play the game with this guy every season? It is obvious he doesn't really want to be at Marshall. It is really a no win for hom or the school. I've seen thus a thousand times in the real world. At some point you can't meet want the guy wants or the other way around and it ends up toxic. At some point, right or wrong, and employer is only going to out up with so much crap no matter who it is. See Woody Hayes.
You want something to be wrong between he and the administration, so he will leave. Please be honest and stop bullshitting. That’s the only “insight” you have on this one.
 
Wrong about what? I have said there is obviously something wrong between the relationship between Huff and the admin. Based on my astute observations there is likely no viable solution other than him leaving. What's Marshall going to do? Play the game with this guy every season? It is obvious he doesn't really want to be at Marshall. It is really a no win for hom or the school. I've seen thus a thousand times in the real world. At some point you can't meet want the guy wants or the other way around and it ends up toxic. At some point, right or wrong, and employer is only going to out up with so much crap no matter who it is.

Frankly, I would make him an offer in good faith and if he accepts fine. If not there's another coach out there.

So because two parties don't agree on something, that automatically indicates there's a problem with them?
 
Shocked that Brad Smith wouldn't intervene if he thought keeping Huff would be best for Marshall. He would overrule Spears.

For all the complaints MU fans make on here about how little, poor, insignificant Marshall is...maybe they're actually being proven right.
It's fun to be pessimistic until the pessimism is actually shown to be true.

Which means you can't complain about MU being above others...because if Huff doesn't stay, despite offers from MU and heading to a (at best) lateral program.
 
Not just "wrong" but "incredibly wrong"? OK. We beat a I-AA, and teams that went 6-6, 5-6 (one loss hurricaned out), 3-9, 5-7, 1-11, 6-6, 5-7 and finally the one good team we played 8-4. For a solid, but unspectacular 9-3, losing 2 very winnable games.

I was wrong, off by two games or so. I failed to see just how weak this schedule was. That is my mistake.

Nothing "incredible" about it.


You are right. I am inferring what I read here and what I see in our community.

But if this is a wrong perception, then it is on him to correct it. I have seen nothing to make me believe the common view is wrong.

So you are down with 31-20, 26-20 vs I-A. That is all poor little Marshall can afford. You are in a panic because we are losing a .600 coach. We dare not demand better.

CH is gone. He rolled into town looking for a better job (and there is nothing wrong with that) and when that didn't happen and the AD made the seat one degree above luke warm, started looking for lateral jobs and, so I hear, lesser jobs.

Give you names? Not my job, CS's job. If he has been doing his job, he has a list of many hundreds of men that are looking for a shot.
Ya know, I don't really post much on here though I have watched and read posts made for the last few years, so I have a question. Sam, in regards to your poor ol Marshall and demanding better comment, was it not you that clapped back at people for saying the same thing when we were in C-USA? Saying that they were our peers and that we should be so lucky to play against those guys and calling others terrible fans for demanding better? Now it seems the shoe is on the other foot. You're claiming only true fans expect to dog walk every team in the Sunbelt while being fine when we finished average in C-USA. Believe it or not I'm not trying to take a dig with this question but actually trying to come to an understanding.
 
You want something to be wrong between he and the administration, so he will leave. Please be honest and stop bullshitting. That’s the only “insight” you have on this one.
Perhaps it looks like there will be a lot of people will be lining up to say old herdman was right.
 
For all the complaints MU fans make on here about how little, poor, insignificant Marshall is...maybe they're actually being proven right.
It's fun to be pessimistic until the pessimism is actually shown to be true.

Which means you can't complain about MU being above others...because if Huff doesn't stay, despite offers from MU and heading to a (at best) lateral program.
Where did I say we were above others? No mention or implied wording.
 
I watch college football. I watch Marshall football regularly. I pay attention to it. I don't watch other sports regularly anymore. College football...yes.

There is obviously something going on between the admin and Coach Huff.
Apparently Huff has been telling Marshall officials that the school needs to invest in the football program if they want it to be successful. MU apparently didn't take kindly to his requests and that might be source of the problem ie egos. Just look at the upkeep of stadium as an example of Marshall's indifference to what the program needs.

A lot of my friends in Huntington are not impressed with the AD. His background is in marketing and IT and had little coach hiring experience. I just hope Marshall doesn't go cheap with the new football coach hire like they did with Men's Basketball. I cringe every time I remember Brad Smith say that we didn't have to do a national search to hire a basketball coach since we had the best candidate on campus. Really? Marshall is too cheap to even have hired a headhunter to conduct a search for basketball coach. I don't think Brad is big on college athletics with the NIL issues facing the programs.
 
Apparently Huff has been telling Marshall officials that the school needs to invest in the football program if they want it to be successful. MU apparently didn't take kindly to his requests and that might be source of the problem ie egos. Just look at the upkeep of stadium as an example of Marshall's indifference to what the program needs.

A lot of my friends in Huntington are not impressed with the AD. His background is in marketing and IT and had little coach hiring experience. I just hope Marshall doesn't go cheap with the new football coach hire like they did with Men's Basketball. I cringe every time I remember Brad Smith say that we didn't have to do a national search to hire a basketball coach since we had the best candidate on campus. Really? Marshall is too cheap to even have hired a headhunter to conduct a search for basketball coach. I don't think Brad is big on college athletics with the NIL issues facing the programs.
Well, he wasn't exactly setting the world on fire before last night.

Frankly, he was probably going to get fired anyway.
 
Well, he wasn't exactly setting the world on fire before last night.

Frankly, he was probably going to get fired anyway.
" He was probably going to get fired anyway". Can you document that statement?

Really? He has Marshall playing for the conference championship for the first time in 10 years. Is he the greatest game day coach, no. But he runs a clean program and got rid of Doc's trouble makers. We haven't had a player arrested since Doc was the coach.


We will know if Marshall is serious about football with the next hire. I am afraid they will go cheap with the hire which will limit the candidates. Coaches look for resources just as much as they do at salary when taking a job.
 
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For all the complaints MU fans make on here about how little, poor, insignificant Marshall is...maybe they're actually being proven right.
It's fun to be pessimistic until the pessimism is actually shown to be true.

Which means you can't complain about MU being above others...because if Huff doesn't stay, despite offers from MU and heading to a (at best) lateral program.
If you think So. Miss. is a step up for him as a program, you're going to need to explain why, because I sure don't see it.
 
" He was probably going to get fired anyway". Can you document that statement?

Really? He has Marshall playing for the conference championship for the first time in 10 years. Is he the greatest game day coach, no. But he runs a clean program and got rid of Doc's trouble makers. We haven't had a player arrested since Doc was the coach.


We will know if Marshall is serious about football with the next hire. I am afraid they will go cheap with the hire which will limit the candidates. Coaches look for resources just as much as they do at salary when taking a job.
Because he had no contract and was 29-20 after 4 years. Then, by accounts had turned down two contract extensions. What did Doc do his last year? Went to the conference championship game.

Now, Marshall based on last night may have very well reviewed the situation being that they won. But, he was obviously on his way too getting fired before a two point conversion last night. There is littel doubt before this season turned around he was in all likelihood gone.
 
Ya know, I don't really post much on here though I have watched and read posts made for the last few years, so I have a question. Sam, in regards to your poor ol Marshall and demanding better comment, was it not you that clapped back at people for saying the same thing when we were in C-USA?
No. First, of course, the Doc era is over, and it looks like the Huff era will soon be as well, so we are discussing history. But during that era there was a minority here, and in the broader community, that could not be happy with any achievement. MU was just "supposed" to run the table in CUSA and doing so was no big deal. Expected.

I pointed out that, frankly, these people needed another hobby. If NOTHING MU does pleases you, move on to something else.

This year is a different discussion. I posted the record of who we beat. That is math and math is a science. Way different than some yahoo saying "Fire Doc, we lost to WKU" like WKU was some sort of disease or something.

CH had a better year than I thought he would, because most of SBC East had a way worse year than I thought they would, and the luck of the rotating schedule missed all the good teams in the West. It is probably time for the SBC, like every other conference already has, adopt a one-division format.

Next year, I will be 100% in on the Herd and our new coach, knowing that the SBC, like CUSA before it, is our home and everyone here is trying their best.
 
" He was probably going to get fired anyway". Can you document that statement?

Really? He has Marshall playing for the conference championship for the first time in 10 years. Is he the greatest game day coach, no. But he runs a clean program and got rid of Doc's trouble makers. We haven't had a player arrested since Doc was the coach.


We will know if Marshall is serious about football with the next hire. I am afraid they will go cheap with the hire which will limit the candidates. Coaches look for resources just as much as they do at salary when taking a job.
We played for a conference championship the year before Huff arrived. Also. I believe MU is serious about football. It has been reported we are Top 3 in football budget. Have some of the better conference facilities and do well in NIL.
 
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Apparently Huff has been telling Marshall officials that the school needs to invest in the football program if they want it to be successful. MU apparently didn't take kindly to his requests and that might be source of the problem ie egos. Just look at the upkeep of stadium as an example of Marshall's indifference to what the program needs.

A lot of my friends in Huntington are not impressed with the AD. His background is in marketing and IT and had little coach hiring experience. I just hope Marshall doesn't go cheap with the new football coach hire like they did with Men's Basketball. I cringe every time I remember Brad Smith say that we didn't have to do a national search to hire a basketball coach since we had the best candidate on campus. Really? Marshall is too cheap to even have hired a headhunter to conduct a search for basketball coach. I don't think Brad is big on college athletics with the NIL issues facing the programs.

When MU has hired any sort of search committee, it is always ridiculed by fans like you.
The hired person is often seen as "we didn't need a search committee to hire them" as if it was a waste of money.

You have zero idea what you're talking about in regards to what MU is spending or willing to spend.

What impresses friends in Huntington with MU playing for a conference title, winning the NCAA soccer tournament, multiple conference titles since, Elite Eight status, NCAA women's basketball tournament appearance on top of a conference title, new baseball stadium, and plans to make a party deck in the stadium???

This is what I mean when people thumb their noses up at everything...your friends really don't have anything to stand on in terms of what's impressive and not.
 
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I think I’ve realized these message boards do nothing positive.

We all have opinions, feelings - sometimes knee jerk reactions based upon what we might see as dumb losses.

But this site offers zero joy.

Nothing like I experienced sitting next to my son, 7 rows up when we jumped in excitement for a blocked punt returned for a TD.

Nothing like taking my 3 year old daughter across the front row to give high fives after 3 goals in 4 minutes at a soccer match.

Nothing like sharing disappointment with my wife on a date night with a basketball loss.

Or the look on my father-in-law’s face when he missed the first home run in our new ballpark because he was in line to buy beers.

The in person community is fun, heart breaking, and joyful.

This just sucks.

My Dad played basketball for the Herd. My grandfather in the HOF.

Whining, arguing, hate filled speech here is so old and sad.

Bye.

Go Herd.
 
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Next year, I will be 100% in on the Herd and our new coach, knowing that the SBC, like CUSA before it, is our home and everyone here is trying their best.
Why not be 100% in on the Herd now with a chance to win a conference title. We know why you won’t. You’re not a real Marshall fan. Marshall isn’t for you.
 
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