What we've lost thus far UPDATED AS OF 12/13

[BleedsGreen33]

100% of Passing (2,354/2,354 Passing Yards)

Braylon Braxton (124/206 1,624, 19/2) - Portal
Stone Earle (65/120, 673, 7/2) - Portal
Cole Pennington (5/7, 57, 1/0) - Portal

99% of Rushing (2,657/2,622)

AJ Turner (104/864, 6) - Portal
Braylon Braxton (134/610, 4) - Portal
Jordan Houston (134/592, 2) - Graduation
Ethan Payne (111/323, 7) - Graduation
Stone Earle (57/207) - Portal
Tychaun Chapman (8/46, 2) - Portal
Moses Gray (7/25) - Still Here
Cole Pennington (2/10) - Portal
Chuck Montgomery (3/5) - Portal

89% of Receiving (2,093/2,354)

Christian Fitzpatrick (34/576, 6) - Graduation
Chuck Montgomery (32/393, 3) - Portal
Carl Chester (20/342, 3) - Graduation
Elijah Metcalf (20/194, 3) - Portal
Jordan Houston (13/173, 1) - Graduation
Toby Payne (17/168, 6) - Still Here, but Huff is working hard to get him to USM
Bralon Brown (15/166, 2) - Portal
Tychaun Chapman (17/146, 1) - Portal
Bryan Robinson (8/82) - Still Here
AJ Turner (8/68, 2) - Portal
Ethan Payne (8/25) - Graduation
Justin Holmes (1/11) - Still Here
DeMarcus Harris (1/10) - Graduation


81% of Tackles (819/1,015)

Jaden Yates (115) - Portal
JJ Roberts (94) - Graduation
Mike Green (81) - Draft
Landyn Watson (66) - Portal
Deeve Harris (54) - Graduation
AG McGee (54) - Portal
Jacobie Henderson (50) - Portal
Ian Foster (48) - Portal
Chris Thomas (43) - Portal
TyQaze Leggs (38) - Graduation
Josh Moten (38) - Portal
Jadarius Geen-McKnight (38) - Still Here
Ahmere Foster (37) - Portal
L'Coryan Anderson (29) - Still Here
JJ Hawkins (22) - Portal
Jabari Ishmael (20) - Portal
Ra'Quan Thompson (20) - Graduation
Dylan Davis (18) - Still Here
Monroe Beard (17) - Still Here
Braydin Ward (14) - Still Here
Jason Shuford (14) - Graduation
Leon Hart (13) - Portal
Ashton Heflin (12) - Still Here
Jude Okolo (12) - Graduation

Note: 15 other players including TaShawn Jeter (Portal) registered tackles. I didn't list them because they were under 10.

 

[greengeezer]

What is the minimum number of players a team has to have on a roster to play a game? Are we approaching a breaking point?

 

[KyMUfan]

The Faithful...

 

[Chris McLaughlin]

What is the minimum number of players a team has to have on a roster to play a game? Are we approaching a breaking point?

Not even close. Remember, except for Mike Green, the players listed above with graduation next to them are playing in our bowl game.

Also, small note: Carl Chester has no additional eligibility left and is not in the portal, meaning he should be available for the game.

 

[Herdguy04]

The Faithful...

That is very different than what is going on here...in fact it's borderline disgraceful you'd compare the two.

 

[Herdguy04]

Not even close. Remember, except for Mike Green, the players listed above with graduation next to them are playing in our bowl game.

Also, small note: Carl Chester has no additional eligibility left and is not in the portal, meaning he should be available for the game.

Makes you wonder if Gibson has tapped a few NC State guys to come with him but because he hasn't been officially announced yet as HC, they're waiting?

 

[Chris McLaughlin]

Makes you wonder if Gibson has tapped a few NC State guys to come with him but because he hasn't been officially announced yet as HC, they're waiting?

Transfers won't be eligible to play in our bowl game.

Also, MU has announced Gibson. His presser is tomorrow.

 

[Herdguy04]

Transfers won't be eligible to play in our bowl game.

Also, MU has announced Gibson. His presser is tomorrow.

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Well then we're likely doomed...

 

[Chris McLaughlin]

Well then we're likely doomed...

Yeah, Army is a helluva draw for us.

 

[johns1124]

We should just bite the bullet and trade with JMU. Sounds like they would be more competitive.
I read on at another place that the admin was going to let transfers play in the bowl game if they so chose to.
Any Truth?

 

[Marine03]

Oh No! We suck Again!! lol

 

[BleedsGreen33]

Not even close. Remember, except for Mike Green, the players listed above with graduation next to them are playing in our bowl game.

Also, small note: Carl Chester has no additional eligibility left and is not in the portal, meaning he should be available for the game.

That was a typo on my part. It should have read "Graduation".

I'll do better

 

[Chris McLaughlin]

That was a typo on my part. It should have read "Graduation".

I'll do better

You did great, my boy!

 

[W-S HerdFan]

That is very different than what is going on here...in fact it's borderline disgraceful you'd compare the two.

What a douche thing to say. Not disgraceful at all. They’re called opinions junior.
I have looked at this pic before, but now notice that the scoreboard operator was so excited he hadn’t yet changed the final score.
The Play was from the Xavier 13 yard line. Oh, what I wouldn’t give to hear the play by play on that one!

 

[HerdGradinFL]

What a douche thing to say. Not disgraceful at all. They’re called opinions junior.
I have looked at this pic before, but now notice that the scoreboard operator was so excited he hadn’t yet changed the final score.
The Play was from the Xavier 13 yard line. Oh, what I wouldn’t give to hear the play by play on that one!

Well I was a student during that period. We burying people, not transferring them. No comparison between what happened then and what is going on today.

 

[Catfanatic1979v1]

I'm actually not worried about next year. The bowl game is a different matter entirely though. On the plus side, some guys have an opportunity to step up and show us what they got for next year.

 

[greengeezer]

For many college teams, it will continually be the upcoming “ box of chocolates “ season. Never know what you are going to get.

 

[Catfanatic1979v1]

If you look at the offensive side, most of that production from individuals is replaceable. The harder production to replace is on the defensive side. Finding equivalent replacements for most of our WR/RB production is not going to be that hard. Braxton (outside of the lack of turnovers) can be replaced too. His production outside of the run game can be replaced by another QB. We will miss having a running QB who doesn't turn the ball over though.

But when it comes to defense, yikes. It's still doable but it's a higher bar to clear.

Regardless, I think Gibson can get it done. I'm not afraid of this situation. I don't think we were really a great team despite the success. We had talent that I think never lived up to their potential. We got really lucky this season. Look at where our offense ranks nationally. No one should think it would be tough to replace that. He can certainly do it on that side of the ball.

 

[muthed]

100% of Passing (2,354/2,354 Passing Yards)

Braylon Braxton (124/206 1,624, 19/2) - Portal
Stone Earle (65/120, 673, 7/2) - Portal
Cole Pennington (5/7, 57, 1/0) - Portal

99% of Rushing (2,611/2,622)

AJ Turner (104/864, 6) - Portal
Braylon Braxton (134/610, 4) - Portal
Jordan Houston (134/592, 2) - Graduation
Ethan Payne (111/323, 7) - Graduation
Stone Earle (57/207) - Portal
Tychaun Chapman (8/46, 2) - Still Here
Moses Gray (7/25) - Still Here
Cole Pennington (2/10) - Portal
Chuck Montgomery (3/5) - Portal

83% of Receiving (1,947/2,354)

Christian Fitzpatrick (34/576, 6) - Graduation
Chuck Montgomery (32/393, 3) - Portal
Carl Chester (20/342, 3) - Graduation
Elijah Metcalf (20/194, 3) - Portal
Jordan Houston (13/173, 1) - Graduation
Toby Payne (17/168, 6) - Still Here, but Huff is working hard to get him to USM
Bralon Brown (15/166, 2) - Portal
Tychaun Chapman (17/146, 1) - Still Here
Bryan Robinson (8/82) - Still Here
AJ Turner (8/68, 2) - Portal
Ethan Payne (8/25) - Graduation
Justin Holmes (1/11) - Still Here
DeMarcus Harris (1/10) - Graduation


79% of Tackles (806/1,015)

Jaden Yates (115) - Portal
JJ Roberts (94) - Graduation
Mike Green (81) - Draft
Landyn Watson (66) - Portal
Deeve Harris (54) - Graduation
AG McGee (54) - Portal
Jacobie Henderson (50) - Portal
Ian Foster (48) - Portal
Chris Thomas (43) - Portal
TyQaze Leggs (38) - Graduation
Josh Moten (38) - Portal
Jadarius Geen-McKnight (38) - Still Here
Ahmere Foster (37) - Portal
L'Coryan Anderson (29) - Still Here
JJ Hawkins (22) - Portal
Jabari Ishmael (20) - Portal
Ra'Quan Thompson (20) - Graduation
Dylan Davis (18) - Still Here
Monroe Beard (17) - Still Here
Braydin Ward (14) - Still Here
Jason Shuford (14) - Graduation
Leon Hart (13) - Still Here
Ashton Heflin (12) - Still Here
Jude Okolo (12) - Graduation

Note: 15 other players including TaShawn Jeter (Portal) registered tackles. I didn't list them because they were under 10.

Good research. That's a lot of production to lose, assuming they all transfer. Maybe some will stay with the Herd.

 

[herdftblfan]

If you look at the offensive side, most of that production from individuals is replaceable. The harder production to replace is on the defensive side. Finding equivalent replacements for most of our WR/RB production is not going to be that hard. Braxton (outside of the lack of turnovers) can be replaced too. His production outside of the run game can be replaced by another QB. We will miss having a running QB who doesn't turn the ball over though.

But when it comes to defense, yikes. It's still doable but it's a higher bar to clear.

Regardless, I think Gibson can get it done. I'm not afraid of this situation. I don't think we were really a great team despite the success. We had talent that I think never lived up to their potential. We got really lucky this season. Look at where our offense ranks nationally. No one should think it would be tough to replace that. He can certainly do it on that side of the ball.

I actually agree with you 100%. I told someone yesterday that we got darn lucky this season and while we’re a good team, we were closer to last season’s record than we care to admit.

 

[Catfanatic1979v1]

I actually agree with you 100%. I told someone yesterday that we got darn lucky this season and while we’re a good team, we were closer to last season’s record than we care to admit.

None of the offensive numbers are intimidating. It may even be a blessing to clean house on that side. We definitely needed better WR recruitment.

 

[KyMUfan]

That is very different than what is going on here...in fact it's borderline disgraceful you'd compare the two.

Borderline disgraceful??? Paying homage to overcoming adversity by using Ernie Salvatore's signature name for Marshall fans and players... Evoking memories of a simpler, and in many ways better, time when there were stronger connections between college athletes and their teammates, schools and fans when the love of the game superseded money and the NIL portal.

You can say many things about me but calling me disgraceful about MU football isn't one of them. And that's a disgrace that you chose to do so.

 

[BleedsGreen33]

Updated list to include Leon Hart to the portal.

 

[Herdguy04]

I actually agree with you 100%. I told someone yesterday that we got darn lucky this season and while we’re a good team, we were closer to last season’s record than we care to admit.

But we aren't.

But leave it to MU fans saying how they "almost were 7-5."

 

[PeytonwGill]

Toby Payne will not be leaving

 

[herdftblfan]

But we aren't.

But leave it to MU fans saying how they "almost were 7-5."

Never said we were and I’m glad our record is what it is but I’m also not so enamored that I can’t see that we aren’t that far and away from 7-5. We were d*mn lucky to even make the championship game. Sorry you can’t see that.

I’m not and never have been a huge Huff fan but I do give him immense credit for what he was able to do this season. That said, I’m not upset he’s gone because I didn’t like have a snake oil salesman leading our team.

 

[HobeHerd]

Brad could make this transition alot better by giving coach Gibson a few mil for nil out of his own pocket and letting him go after the half dozen or so that he would like to keep

 

[mlblack16.]

That was a typo on my part. It should have read "Graduation".

I'll do better

Nah dude, like Charlie, you "chocked" when it really mattered 😆

 

[muthed]

But we aren't.

But leave it to MU fans saying how they "almost were 7-5."

Yeah. But on the other hand, we were almost 11-2 but we lost that game to OSU. We were ahead by 7 points with about 55 minutes to play in that game but we couldn't hold on.

 

[raleighherdfan]

I can’t see that we aren’t that far and away from 7-5.

😂 😂 😂

More "glass half empty" nonsense. We are actually closer to being 11-2 than 7-5. Ga Southern was a fluke.

 

[mlblack16.]

😂 😂 😂

More "glass half empty" nonsense. We are actually closer to being 11-2 than 7-5.

What's the saying? Good teams find a way to win.

 

[herdftblfan]

What's the saying? Good teams find a way to win.

Never said we aren't good. I'm just saying that we aren't nearly as good as some would like to believe. That's all.

We were d*mn lucky to beat JMU, ODU, and ULM to close the season. Any of those three games could have gone a different direction and we wouldn't even be discussing playing in the championship game, let alone a championship.

 

[mlblack16.]

Never said we aren't good. I'm just saying that we aren't nearly as good as some would like to believe. That's all.

We were d*mn lucky to beat JMU, ODU, and ULM to close the season. Any of those three games could have gone a different direction and we wouldn't even be discussing playing in the championship game, let alone a championship.

I don't disagree, just saying the argument often (convenient to the individual's argument) easily spins both directions. I agree that Huff had us playing great in the first half of several games only to see a very frustrating unraveling in the entire 2nd half and feel like we barely escaped. There were several key factors that fell in place this season to get us the conference championship, namely CCU and App both being terrible, which is very atypical. Who knows what we would have done if the SBE was as strong as our first season in the SB.

 

[Herdguy04]

Brad could make this transition alot better by giving coach Gibson a few mil for nil out of his own pocket and letting him go after the half dozen or so that he would like to keep

MU fans: "MU AD needs to do more fundraising with smaller donatable things for us lower paying fans so we can afford to give to MU...bricks for the stadium, or something..."

Also MU fans: "Lets let our enormously wealthy school president cover the cost of the HC salary..."

After what Brad has done and the amount he has given...he doesn't owe MU another dime.

 

[Herdguy04]

Never said we were and I’m glad our record is what it is but I’m also not so enamored that I can’t see that we aren’t that far and away from 7-5. We were d*mn lucky to even make the championship game. Sorry you can’t see that.

I’m not and never have been a huge Huff fan but I do give him immense credit for what he was able to do this season. That said, I’m not upset he’s gone because I didn’t like have a snake oil salesman leading our team.

So...

You're saying you're not impressed because MU's level of play wasn't up to par (for your standards) and that they could have been worse...
This is posted NOW since...

Said HC is gone.
The overwhelming majority of the players who could have had the record you speak of, and had the record they currently have, are also gone.

In short, you're bringing up an absolutely useless observation since virtually no remnants of the team are returning.

Furthermore, to you, he's a snake oil salesman because he simply didn't want to be here and somehow that's a crime against humanity...when he actually fulfilled his end of the agreement between he and the AD, WIN.
He also deflected the attention away from his (at the time) potential leaving and saying he just wanted to focus on the title game, which he did and blew Louisiana out of the water in easily the best game MU played all season.

Do I have this right? If so...your logic is...nicely put...very skewed.

 

[Herdguy04]

Yeah. But on the other hand, we were almost 11-2 but we lost that game to OSU. We were ahead by 7 points with about 55 minutes to play in that game but we couldn't hold on.

Gotta love MU isn't nearly the bad record the fans thought they'd be and they are so unable to accept it, they go to hypotheticals...

 

[herdftblfan]

So...

You're saying you're not impressed because MU's level of play wasn't up to par (for your standards) and that they could have been worse...
This is posted NOW since...

Said HC is gone.
The overwhelming majority of the players who could have had the record you speak of, and had the record they currently have, are also gone.

In short, you're bringing up an absolutely useless observation since virtually no remnants of the team are returning.

Furthermore, to you, he's a snake oil salesman because he simply didn't want to be here and somehow that's a crime against humanity...when he actually fulfilled his end of the agreement between he and the AD, WIN.
He also deflected the attention away from his (at the time) potential leaving and saying he just wanted to focus on the title game, which he did and blew Louisiana out of the water in easily the best game MU played all season.

Do I have this right? If so...your logic is...nicely put...very skewed.

If you've been paying attention, you would know that none of my opinions around Huff are new and that I've been vocal about my view of him for many months, some views I've shared for years. Maybe I should post less on the paid forum so I could get you excited more often.

 

[HobeHerd]

MU fans: "MU AD needs to do more fundraising with smaller donatable things for us lower paying fans so we can afford to give to MU...bricks for the stadium, or something..."

Also MU fans: "Lets let our enormously wealthy school president cover the cost of the HC salary..."

After what Brad has done and the amount he has given...we doesn't owe MU another dime.

We doesn’t ? I didn’t mean I expect him to give up any more of his well earned money every year He has done enough But he’s already working behind the scenes to keep some players with nil money
Check it out Marshall football is trending at 3 on Yahoo and I actually have sources.

 

[W-S HerdFan]

We doesn’t ? I didn’t mean I expect him to give up any more of his well earned money every year He has done enough But he’s already working behind the scenes to keep some players with nil money
Check it out Marshall football is trending at 3 on Yahoo and I actually have sources.

Hobe - can you ‘splain that? What does trending at 3 on Yahoo?

 

[HobeHerd]

https://www.yahoo.com/