Why do people think it's "racist" to want the federal government to enforce immigration laws?

[ThunderCat98]

I don't understand this logic. These are laws, passed by Congress (both parties), that are still in full force and effect (or should be). Why then, do libs and lib pundits automatically label someone a "racist" (which is an incorrect usage of that term - xenophobe, though still inaccurate, would be a better fit) because they believe these laws should be followed and enforced?

I'm not racist. I couldn't care less about someone's skin color or ethnicity. However, I believe you should follow the appropriate legal process for coming to the U.S. and staying.

Is this process broken? Maybe, but that's a separate and distinct argument from whether the law should be followed. You want a change in the current process? Petition Congress for a change in the law.

I'm not trying to be an ass, or even provoke an argument. I would seriously like to know why, or how, this is labelled racism.

 

[extragreen]

Because we know that if it was white women coming across that border, you'd be talking about bridges instead of walls.

 

[HerdBuckeye]

I don't understand this logic. These are laws, passed by Congress (both parties), that are still in full force and effect (or should be). Why then, do libs and lib pundits automatically label someone a "racist" (which is an incorrect usage of that term - xenophobe, though still inaccurate, would be a better fit) because they believe these laws should be followed and enforced?

I'm not racist. I couldn't care less about someone's skin color or ethnicity. However, I believe you should follow the appropriate legal process for coming to the U.S. and staying.

Is this process broken? Maybe, but that's a separate and distinct argument from whether the law should be followed. You want a change in the current process? Petition Congress for a change in the law.

I'm not trying to be an ass, or even provoke an argument. I would seriously like to know why, or how, this is labelled racism.

For the same reasons you have Alex Jones spewing his bullshit.

 

[murox]

I don't understand this logic. These are laws, passed by Congress (both parties), that are still in full force and effect (or should be). Why then, do libs and lib pundits automatically label someone a "racist" (which is an incorrect usage of that term - xenophobe, though still inaccurate, would be a better fit) because they believe these laws should be followed and enforced?

I'm not racist. I couldn't care less about someone's skin color or ethnicity. However, I believe you should follow the appropriate legal process for coming to the U.S. and staying.

Is this process broken? Maybe, but that's a separate and distinct argument from whether the law should be followed. You want a change in the current process? Petition Congress for a change in the law.

I'm not trying to be an ass, or even provoke an argument. I would seriously like to know why, or how, this is labelled racism.

The left is mostly intellectually bankrupt. Collectivism has been proven a failure over the past 300 years, and leftist policies can't compete in the arena of ideas. So what do you do? You still have to have voters and people on your side, so you adopt policies where you represent marginalized populations. That has turned into full-blown identity policies where an individual's worth is based solely on his, her or it's skin color, native country, disability or gender.*

*Even if you are part of a marginalized population, if you do not subscribe to leftist dogma, you will be considered an enemy of the left.

 

[extragreen]

The left is mostly intellectually bankrupt.

Nope. You can't claim someone else is intellectually bankrupt after voting for cheetos.

 

[ThunderCat98]

Because we know that if it was white women coming across that border, you'd be talking about bridges instead of walls.

Not a legit response, but an attempt to argue. Nor is this remotely accurate. I don't care if you're an eastern European, Canadian, Mexican, or Australian immigrant, you should still follow the legal processes.

 

[ThunderCat98]

For the same reasons you have Alex Jones spewing his bullshit.

Well, there you go. Thanks for the thoughtful response.

 

[extragreen]

Not a legit response, but an attempt to argue. Nor is this remotely accurate. I don't care if your an eastern European, Canadian, Mexican, or Australian immigrant, you should still follow the legal processes.

It is legit, and factual.
Secondly, if you're poor and need to come to the U S, how long do you think it takes to enter legally if you're from Mexico? Would you wait that long if you're living in poverty to immigrate legally?

 

[Dreh_Nagi_HC_IM]

It's the 16th anniversary of 9/11. That give us your tired, your sick, your poor BS went out the door on that day.

 

[MarshallManiac]

It is legit, and factual.
Secondly, if you're poor and need to come to the U S, how long do you think it takes to enter legally if you're from Mexico? Would you wait that long if you're living in poverty to immigrate legally?

Less than 3 months. That is a fact.

 

[extragreen]

Less than 3 months. That is a fact.

Sure.

 

[MarshallManiac]

Sure.

Only you would doubt the guy married to a Mexican. You're clueless.

 

[extragreen]

Only you would doubt the guy married to a Mexican. You're clueless.

You're a moron.

The waiting list should not be confused with the processing backlogs, which represent the length of time it takes for USCIS to adjudicate each application or petition. The waiting lists occur because the demand for green cards exceeds the limits enacted by Congress to regulate the level of immigration; the processing backlogs occur because USCIS has not effectively managed the huge volume of applications from people seeking immigration benefits. For example, it has taken more than 16 months to process the application for the wife and children of U.S. citizen Jimmy Gugliotta (there are no numerical limits for spouses and minor children of citizens), largely because USCIS has diverted staff to processing deferred action and work permits for illegal aliens covered in the president's controversial executive actions.

The waiting times in the family categories range from 19 months to 33 years. The waits in the employment categories range from none to just over 11 years. The law allows for an unlimited number of immigrants who are the spouse, child, or parent of an adult U.S. citizen, so there is no waiting list in that category (although there is a processing time of five months for the initial petition plus additional months for the application itself to be reviewed).

More than half of the waiting list is comprised of about 2.5 million people who have been sponsored by a sibling who is a U.S. citizen (see Figure 1). These applicants must wait at least 13 years for their application to be adjudicated. The largest number (30 percent) are citizens of Mexico, and the wait for them is just over 18 years.

 

[MarshallManiac]

Says the moron who Googled "immigration wait times" and then copy and pasted the first "factual" article he could find that supported his argument.

Again...I'm very familiar with immigration laws and the USCIS. A person from Mexico that wants to immigrate to the United States can realistically do that LEGALLY in 3 months. Will they have their green card in 3 months? Probably not. That process could take up to 3-5 years without a sponsor but you don't have to have a green card to live and work here legally.

 

[HerdBuckeye]

Well, there you go. Thanks for the thoughtful response.

Is there a difference? Simple fact of the matter is there is always going to be an audience to hear either of these sides......

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

It's the 16th anniversary of 9/11. That give us your tired, your sick, your poor BS went out the door on that day.

Saudis come here left and right and no one bats an eye. Because a lot of them are rich. Hispanics fleeing poverty and gang violence? Fvck those guys.

 

[extragreen]

Says the moron who Googled "immigration wait times" and then copy and pasted the first "factual" article he could find that supported his argument.

Again...I'm very familiar with immigration laws and the USCIS. A person from Mexico that wants to immigrate to the United States can realistically do that LEGALLY in 3 months. Will they have their green card in 3 months? Probably not. That process could take up to 3-5 years without a sponsor but you don't have to have a green card to live and work here legally.

Are you referring to those who have an employer sponsor?

 

[19MU88]

Because we know that if it was white women coming across that border, you'd be talking about bridges instead of walls.

You need to study up on Ellis Island moron.

 

[19MU88]

Saudis come here left and right and no one bats an eye. Because a lot of them are rich. Hispanics fleeing poverty and gang violence? Fvck those guys.

we never let Hispanics or latin people in....what an idiotic statement. pretty big segment of the population are Hispanic...and legal.

 

[extragreen]

You need to study up on Ellis Island moron.

You'd have a point if we were living in the late 1800's, moron. You know, since we now realize women can support families.

 

[19MU88]

I'm just wondering why they were confused about just letting the Europeans in because they were white...you stupid idiot. I mean we were even better racist back then, right?

and, you might have a point if you knew Ellis Island was used into the mid 1900s..(you earned one last) MORON

 

[extragreen]

I'm just wondering why they were confused about just letting the Europeans in because they were white...you stupid idiot

No you're weren't.

I mean we were even better racist back then, right?

About the same.

and, you might have a point if you knew Ellis Island was used into the mid 1900s..(you earned one last) MORON

The law was in effect 1891, MORON.

 

[19MU88]

No you're weren't.



About the same.



The law was in effect 1891, MORON.

and it was our primary immigration center from 1892 - 1954 so your comment about the 1800s is silly....like most of your babble.

 

[ThunderCat98]

All these responses, and not one person has even attempted to legitimately answer the question posed besides Rox. Thx, btw.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

we never let Hispanics or latin people in....what an idiotic statement. pretty big segment of the population are Hispanic...and legal.

You missed the point. I'm going to take a guess that most illegal Hispanic immigrants are fleeing poverty and violence. With resources there are legal and safer ways to get here. Meanwhile, a wealthy Saudi that very well could support jihad has the welcome mat rolled out for them.

We are wary of the wrong people. And even Trump keeps welcoming Saudis.

I'm pretty sure if we asked Europe to trade their Muslim immigrants for our Hispanic illegals they would take that deal.

Keep in mind today's date and my ranting. I've been sick of Saudi Arabia's shit for sixteen fvcking years now. At least I know my illegal Hispanic friends are not going to set off a bomb or hijack a plane.

 

[Raoul Duke MU]

All these responses, and not one person has even attempted to legitimately answer the question posed besides Rox. Thx, btw.

Well, you asked a no-brainer. Controversy sells. It sells on both sides. The media yells racist, and racists yell other things. Of course, blaming problems on immigrants is a lot easier when they are different, so that sets up the endless loop.

So yeah, some of it is because of some isms. Others like you just want the rules followed. Congress can't fix the rules because of the endless loop of bitching.

Me, I don't care if we let ten million Hispanics in, legally or illegally. Their culture meshes well with ours. There's a couple that don't, yet the media, liberal and conservative, are afraid to talk about them.

 

[extragreen]

and it was our primary immigration center from 1892 - 1954 so your comment about the 1800s is silly....like most of your babble.

I have always thought that 1891 was part of the late 1800's. MORON.

 

[extragreen]

All these responses, and not one person has even attempted to legitimately answer the question posed besides Rox. Thx, btw.

No, he made no such attempt.