Yeah, it is just that simple. Hire some diamond in the rough out there that no one knows about, use Marshall and Huntington's vast untapped resources, and destroy SBC like we are supposed to do.
My point is, if you guys think Marshall is randomly just a massive program waiting to happen in basketball, you're nuts. In fact, 20+ win seasons and a tourney showing is honestly as much as we have accomplished in football. So why all of the sudden do we think we need to be FAU on a yearly basis? BTW- they are not this every year and won't be next year. So what you are basically wanting is something that isn't feasible, from a bball program that is not going to get the recruits that FAU is, while wanting to be consistently what they are for only one year, while keeping a coach that accomplishes this and doesn't want to leave... wait for it... Huntington, WV. Winning 20+ games 50% of the time is not mediocrity as Sam so eloquently likes to say. It is actually much better than we are historically. Yet you guys think somehow we are this sleeping giant ready to become the next Houston. Read these words correctly: Yeah. F*cking. Right.
And Charlotte won the CBI, or whatever it's called now. Not bad for a bottom rung conference.
CUSA is 17-1 in post season play this year.......going into the NIT championship tonight.
Cusa is better than the sbc in bball. That is well known. But we will see when those teams move on next year. There will be a major drop off.
Yes but we moved to SBC for football. Except.... Sam says simply firing everyone in the basketball program and using our random Huntington, WV powerhouse resources, will make up the dominant program in SBC basketball because "We Are Marshall"
Who is saying that is the measure? Expecting more than 1 conference title in 20 years too much for you to handle? This is the same argument we faced when Doc was here in football. It would be nice if Marshall would simply hire a basketball coach that appears to actually know how to strategically coach at key times of the game, while not bragging about beating up on schools from "College of Deaf and Blind".
You don't have a point. Other than that you accept mediocrity.
No, we just understand basketball. Understand just how s***y the SBC is, and how easy it is to dominate it for any school with the resources, and that MU is one of about 5 schools in the SBC with said resources.
Because that is the goal. What is your goal? To show up? If you are not striving to win, why bother trying?
Not under DD and his token effort.
Ahh, so that is it. My little Danny will never leave me. Yes, MU is not Kentucky. A coach that succeeds here is probably going to go elsewhere. Your little Danny will never leave you. Because no one else wants him.
Yes it is.
So what is your goal? Next fall, what are you looking for? "Gosh, I sure hope we win 60% of our games, and sure hope we play as many D2 and bottom feeder D1 schools as possible. I just want to show up."
1999 Marshall Thundering Herd football team - Wikipedia
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You just lost all credibility.
Because that is the goal. What is your goal? To show up? If you are not striving to win, why bother trying?
Not under DD and his token effort.
Ahh, so that is it. My little Danny will never leave me. Yes, MU is not Kentucky. A coach that succeeds here is probably going to go elsewhere. Your little Danny will never leave you. Because no one else wants him.
Yes it is.
So what is your goal? Next fall, what are you looking for? "Gosh, I sure hope we win 60% of our games, and sure hope we play as many D2 and bottom feeder D1 schools as possible. I just want to show up."
That describes a token effort.
This is a token effort.
My goal is to be realistic, because fans like you that think programs are what they aren't, or can be what they can't, end up hurting the program in the long run. What exactly is it you think we should be? The next Houston? Memphis? You legit probably think we should be one of those programs. Because if we aren't them, then 20+ wins seasons is actually pretty damn good.
Woe to anyone stupid enough to play a drinking game involving the # of times Sam types “token effort”……or would that be 2 drinks? 🥃🥃Well, you said that winning 20 games and one tournament game was equal to what we have done in football, I just pointed out how stupid that was. I could have just as easily linked to this.
2022 Notre Dame Fighting Irish football team - Wikipedia
We all get it. You accept mediocrity. 20 wins, all against D2 teams, the very bottom of D1, and in this s***y league are fine with you.
This is a token effort.
You're right, what Marshall did in 1997 was better than what the basketball team is doing now. We get it, you can't accept the fact you don't realize the football team accomplishes nothing more than the basketball team except for the 90s.Well, you said that winning 20 games and one tournament game was equal to what we have done in football, I just pointed out how stupid that was. I could have just as easily linked to this.
2022 Notre Dame Fighting Irish football team - Wikipedia
We all get it. You accept mediocrity. 20 wins, all against D2 teams, the very bottom of D1, and in this s***y league are fine with you.
This is a token effort.
Why? Because I debunk every stupid thing he says, which is most of what he spews.
I have debunked the idea that our football program is something you think it is, when it actually is not. You are trying to say we should strive for football levels in our basketball program, when in FACT they are relatively the same. This isn't 1998 anymore, and the Marshall U Cafe isn't the coolest spot in the SBC. Move on
You have no goals. That's the problem. Just existing and winning 20 games every few seasons is not having goals. You have a loser mentality and it's people like you that keep the program where it is.
Like many in our fan base he as accepted the load of bull that somehow expecting to compete in today's landscape is much harder than it was moving from I-AA to I-A. This is how the administration can get by with its token efforts and continue to employ Dan and brag about meaningless low rate weed eater bowls.
Nah, I just don't sit at The Union with my thumb up my ass for the last 20 years talking about the glory days of Randy Moss, wondering when that is ever going to happen again and pretending like we are still on that level. Same thing in bball, the only difference is we are missing those two or three special seasons like football had a QUARTER CENTURY AGO.
Listen Sammy. This is the same argument you made when Doc was here. Give it a rest. Danny is old, out of touch. The only difference is he occasionally frequents downtown establishments for a couple of beers and food, unlike the last football guy that rolled out of town every evening.
I don't disagree with this. My problem is Sam acts like we are way more dominant in football than basketball, and therefore we should just clean out the entire bball program. I am simply stating that 20+ wins 50% of the time is AS GOOD OR BETTER than what has been accomplished in football in recent history. And no one has proved me otherwise with any valid points yet. The only thing Sam did was find Wikipedia info from a quarter century ago, which is definitely the epitome of Sam's research abilities.
There is no "recent history". You just spewed idiocy, and were made to look foolish.
So in other words, beating Navy, Maryland, Purdue (all bottom feeders in their conferences) and being ranked 10th several years ago one time, is WAY better than 20+ win seasons and decent shots at winning the conference (which we did once) in basketball. I didnt realize how massive those football wins were. Pretty soon, we may even beat someone like a Wisconsin or an Arkansas, and our football dreams of astonishing grandeur will be complete!
Yes, that is correct. Of course, you left out Notre Dame. But, yes. Football is currently performing acceptably (actually far better than acceptably, but not the question). Basketball is not.
Here’s my problem with Bleed’s post:
We may be mediocre. I don't know. We seem to do fairly well in fball. My problem is that we lose games that we shouldn't be losing, thus holding us back from getting to the next level. And by next level I don't mean P-5. Just win what we should win and play for a conference championship more than 1 out of 10 times.
Ok, now I know that you believe beating bottom level P5 teams is accomplishing a lot because "theyre P5". I see where your priorities lie now- being mentioned on ESPN and holding on to the movie about Marshall as the most important things. Relevance and mentions on TV is more important than actual success. Got it
Yes this! This is what Sam doesn't get. He think he we are some P5 level program, just waiting for the right recognition because "We Are Marshall".
