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All of you are blind

Raoul Duke MU

Doctor of Journalism
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There's a four page thread on Hillary's emails, but our government still won't tell us how badly our Saudi allies fvxked us in the ass on 9/11. It is almost like all of you just fall for this shit. It is all misdirection, none of that shit is actually important. Your mega-rich overlords are laughing.

Except for EG. He's just a dumb dickhead.
 
I think we should take down the Saudi royal family and install a puppet government.

They hosed us.
 
There's a four page thread on Hillary's emails, but our government still won't tell us how badly our Saudi allies fvxked us in the ass on 9/11. It is almost like all of you just fall for this shit. It is all misdirection, none of that shit is actually important. Your mega-rich overlords are laughing.

Except for EG. He's just a dumb dickhead.

Pill head has spoken. All hail!
 
I think we should take down the Saudi royal family and install a puppet government.

They hosed us.

They are a bunch of cocksuckers.

Remember how a month ago the classified pages of the 9/11 report was a huge deal in the news? Now it's gone. Hillary's email my ass. Smoke and mirrors. Trump really might release the info though. He certainly does not give a fvxk what the Saudis or anyone else thinks.
 
No. You haven't.

Believe whatever makes you happy...

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Raoul, I don't think about the Saudi involvement because I have already concluded that they funded the whole thing, were the primary funders of Bin Laden and continue to be the number one source of terrorist funding in the world.

In 30 years they will all be trying to survive by eating sand, if the royal family isn't killed by their own people before then.
 
Not only do you think you know everything on this Earth, you now think you God.

Your arrogance is amazing.

Seems as though you don't like being told what your religion is or isn't. Maybe you could learn something from that. But I doubt it.
 
Greed, I don't know what scientologist are suppose to do, but I do know Christians are suppose to encourage other to seek out God. Do you think that's what you are effectively doing with Raoul?
 
Greed, I don't know what scientologist are suppose to do, but I do know Christians are suppose to encourage other to seek out God. Do you think that's what you are effectively doing with Raoul?

That would be an option if raoul believed the Bible is the infallible word of God. In the meantime you could ask him the same question. Moron
 
Biblical inerrancy is an invention of late 19th Century and 20th Century Fundamentalists. I would point you to some books and history on this topic, but we already know you are not open to expanding your understanding of much of anything.

Faith is belief in the face of uncertainty. You take the leap with incomplete, imperfect evidence. Inerrancy is belief within a perfect reality of concrete proof. It is arrogant because it assumes one has all the answers even though real evidence points otherwise. The Bible is not an object of worship. It is simply a tool for gaining the wisdom to seek salvation through faith (2 Timothy 3:15). Wisdom, not knowledge. And no where does that verse say it is the only tool. God has granted us the intelligence to gain wisdom from experience and observation.

Do you honestly believe the exact story of Noah's Ark? It is preposterous on its face. Its lesson and wisdom is that God will grant refuge in the storm to those who have faith and call on Him.

You tell me which requires more faith: Accepting the Creation myth while damning all available and observable facts stating otherwise, or accepting all available and observable facts yet still having faith God had a hand in it? Which one requires the highest meaning of what it is to be human, the melding of intelligence and the soul?

Never mind that Christianity existed long before any man decided what writings should be Scripture. Never mind that Christians exist that never laid eyes on a Bible or that could even read one. Jesus is the salvation, not a book.

Now here is what I find mildly amusing. We know you adhere to TWO religions. One, you firmly believe every word in its instruction manual to be 100% inerrancy. The other, you either deny it's writings on some days, or on others use the lame excuse that you didn't get to those parts (didn't pay enough $$$$), and do both while claiming it is only a tool for something. There's a pretty strong logical disconnect there.
 
Thanks for making my point. You either believe the Bible or you don't. Nowhere does the Bible or Christ say "part of my word shall last forever". You either believe in an all powerful God or you don't. If you do, it's no stretch whatsoever to believe that the account of Noah's Ark is perfectly true. And if that account is not true, then how do you consider a more "unbelievable" story about creation as true? How can you believe that God sent his beloved son into this world to suffer and die a horrendous death for the cause of reconciling man to God, and then believe that same God would not maintain a perfect record of it? God is perfect, Christ is perfect, but the record is not?
 
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The "record" is both a collection of oral histories and written records translated and edited by men, some of whom were not exactly concerned with accuracy.

Even Paul admitted he was not perfect enough to be perfectly right.

Interestingly, we know there are actual historical inaccuracies in the Bible. The Gospel of Mark completely screws up local geography, for example (do your usual and go to Google). By your all or nothing logic, then NONE of the Bible is correct and NONE of it can be believed.

It wouldn't be a stretch to call your worship of the Bible idolatry.
 
There are no inaccuracies in the Bible. I'll gladly be an idolater of the Bible since the word was God, the word was made flesh in the form of Jesus Christ, and he is perfect.
 
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Mark does not get geography wrong.

The four alleged places where he does are easily explained.

1) Mark 5:1 and the Gerasene demoniac.

There is an example of Mark merely referring to a region, Gerasa, whereas the other gospel writers are more "specific", in mentioning a specific place, Gadera.

2) Mark 7:31 and Jesus' route to Galilee and Mark 10:1 and their route.

A careful reading of the text does not say Jesus and the disciples go north to get to a place that was to their south. It merely notes that they went from Tyre to Sidon and then went to the Lake from there. Likewise in Mark 10 Mark is making regional references.

3) Mark 8:10 and an unknown location.

Is an argument from silence. Just because we don't know of Dalmunatha does not mean it doesn't exist or wasn't known as that back then. It would be somewhat similar to a document from 1660 referring to New Amsterdam and the knowledge of NYC being that before being lost to history.
 
Besides how stupid do we think the writers of the Gospels were to not get basic details write?

Especially of a location where they lived.

It would be like me describing a trip from Clarksburg to Elkins by talking about driving through Spencer.

Why would I get something that basic wrong?
 
Because maybe they screwed up? Kind of like your spell checker just did?

Let's use Occam's razor for a minute.

Let's say you are writing a book detailing the life of a man that many people alive that day knew of and were aware of his existence. (Even the liberals now admit that Mark was written in the 1st century)

Let's also say you are writing to Jews trying to get them to like that man and think he is the promised Messiah they were looking to see.

Putting a period in a wrong place? Misspelling a word? Sure.

Getting easily verifiable geographic information wrong for an area you know well (that is not actually wrong, as I noted above) that you could pop down to the local library and check out a map of Galilee? Absurdly unlikely.
 
Where did my reply go? Rivals sucks.

Shorter version: the demon casting: those are in fact two different cities. And I don't care beyond to point out their are some mistakes in the Bible (along with fables, allegory, etc). The lesson is still the same, Jesus has dominion over demonic spirits.

I have always been under the impression the Gospels were for an already Christian audience, in the early churches.
 
Gadera and Gerasa were in fact two different cities.

However, Mark's use of Gerasa is equivalent to saying "New York City" when it may be more correct to say Yonkers/New Rochelle.

That's not a "mistake".

Again, Mark was from Galilee. He wasn't ignorant of the geography.

It would be quite a stretch for me to pick up a book published by the company that made millions off of Rick Warren.

Well, with that weird requirement, (not reading things printed by a publisher for that reason)

Try this one.
 
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