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Right now, my guess would be some parts and material would not be available for shipment in at least 5-12 months.. soo they might wanna think ahead before they are waiting on the bolts that hold it all together….. just sayin
How does New Mexico's stadium compare to the one we're building?
Because the MU BoG are complete morons and kept blocking him from getting it built.
Oh please. That’s pure BS. Give us hard facts to back that up. It was a botched process from the get go.
The only parts that are missing is straight cash homie.
We don't have enough, which is why they are still fundraising.
Look for announcements of "delays" "changes" etc, in the near future.
Believe it when I see it. Not until. Been fooled too many times before.
No groundbreaking ceremony scheduled.
Work at site is scheduled to start this October.
Another tidbit from Chuck Landon's column in this morning's HD.
Rumor that a Charleston business is offering $5 million for naming rights.
Rumor that a Charleston business is offering $5 million for naming rights.
Good. Make it 10 Mil. Likely Encova, Former Brickstreet I believe.
It should be Jack Cook Field. Jmo. We’ll see what happens.
The original site had massive city infrastructure costs that were overlooked. Truly a botched decision on that site.
I’m more confident now that this administration knows how to get shit done.
I’m choosing to be positive on this one until proven otherwise. New leadership has its benefits. No one expects Sammy to ever attend one of these games anyway, since he’s moved on to NM St fandom.
I’m more confident now that this administration knows how to get shit done.
I’m choosing to be positive on this one until proven otherwise. New leadership has its benefits. No one expects Sammy to ever attend one of these games anyway, since he’s moved on to NM St fandom.
It wasn't.
Hamrick had it all going from the start. Aside from COVID delaying the project, the MU BoG wanted it in a different location (which is where it is now, behind the softball field) and kept blocking his progress.
Sorry to say, the MU BoG has some very petty POS membership in it, and such a thing is not uncommon in collegiate atmospheres.
However, it is being done, just hope you're on board with it, unlike goddamn Sam.
Please.
There are dozens of major construction projects in WV that have been going on throughout the panic/pandemic and thousands nationwide. Somehow only the MU baseball stadium was affected. Right.
They made an announcement and didn't have the money to pay for it. That simple. So they diddled around for a couple of years and have now come back with a much more humble project, for which they still lack the money. There just isn't the will to build a baseball park here, and short of some rich guy donating the money on the condition that it be used for that and nothing else, there never will be.
So, yet another announcement. Yet another architectural drawing.
OK. Baseball season in 24 starts in February. I put the chances of the team playing there at 2%; and of the place even being under-construction but delayed and maybe ready for 25 at 5%. The most likely situation will be the same one that has followed the previous announcements back to the 60s. The announced site will still be an open piece of ground.
There are dozens of major construction projects in WV that have been going on throughout the panic/pandemic and thousands nationwide. Somehow only the MU baseball stadium was affected. Right.
They made an announcement and didn't have the money to pay for it. That simple. So they diddled around for a couple of years and have now come back with a much more humble project, for which they still lack the money. There just isn't the will to build a baseball park here, and short of some rich guy donating the money on the condition that it be used for that and nothing else, there never will be.
So, yet another announcement. Yet another architectural drawing.
OK. Baseball season in 24 starts in February. I put the chances of the team playing there at 2%; and of the place even being under-construction but delayed and maybe ready for 25 at 5%. The most likely situation will be the same one that has followed the previous announcements back to the 60s. The announced site will still be an open piece of ground.
COVID IS AN EXCUSE. Every other fundraising organization continued to raise funds the last two years. Hell, Marshall Rises surpassed their goal of 150 Million during this time. No excuse as to why Herd Rises couldn’t raise funds. It was just pure laziness from within the Schewey.
The site was a poor decision and the BOG soon realized it after the bids came in 8 mil over budget. It was a severely flawed and poorly executed process by Hamrick.
How the hell does he miss underground pipes and utilities being moved, a street being closed and re-routed. Just a poor process.
Thank God Smith and Spears seem to know how to do it the correct way and the BOG is in line with their thinking.
HD reported last year that 3 million had been raised for Marshall baseball stadium. If there is only one million available now where did the difference of 2 million go?
i heard there was only $75 raised. Which is about what they paid some dude that lives at the villages, to drive a skid steer around the old property and scoop weeds for 2 years. Then Covid happened and he caught the bug and now he’s washing cars at magic tunnel trying to elevate the herd rises campaign.
I wasn't on Facebook much this weekend, but apparently an online campaign raised $52,000 in the last three days and the Lamberts are going to match it, so we have $104,000 in hand just from this weekend... That should be enough to get some random grading company from out Wayne to come dig up the old blacktop and grade off the grass at the site to at least take it down to dirt... That would be more progress than we've seen in the past 25 years. lol
Well seeing - as we all know - certainly is believing but I’m 75 years old and have been waiting since I graduated from high school in 1964 hearing Marshall’s need for a baseball park. Why do we now have to wait until October as a previous poster stated? Why? Come on Marshall administration prove to naysayers like myself that this time is for real. Prove it to us,
Based on Smith's comments, they have to find a firm to do the entire project - design and build. Doesn't look like they will bid this out - which is good. Smith said they hope to start moving dirt by October.
Weren't the streets and utilities taken into consideration? I seem to remember that.
From what was reported, the costs of relocating utilities, moving the road were higher than anticipated. Plus, there was a main water line that wasn't considered and needed to be re-located. That wasn't factored into the costs either. Just poor oversight. Someone didn't do their due diligence.
If you lose this, and MU does build a stadium, will you self ban for a year?
"COVID aside" I then stated the other reasons.
There's a particular madness involving words and letters, it's called, "reading."
Try it.
I addressed those reasons. Face it, your hero failed to deliver. Now the big boys are coming in to finish the job. BTW, did you donate over the weekend for the matching funds? I doubt it.
I did actually. Spoke to a few BG folks in the know as well.
Back in March, there were architects looking at the site for areas to potentially build.
I believed Hamrick had the best intentions behind this project. But given the dissention within the MU BoG, which I have explained extensively, he had a TON of things working against him...beyond what we, outsiders, really know.
I hold no grudges because he isn't finishing it, hell, this puts it squarely on the new leadership so we'll see what the final result is.
We all need to get behind this and support it. It's likely that the softball field will get lights as well. While we've been down this road before, I do feel this time we have a legit shot at seeing a stadium come to fruition. I like the way they are going about the process as well - will keep everything in line, from budget to construction/completion.
why did our fans not donate (like usual)? herd rises was marketed prior to the pandemic. they cashed checks throughout if you sent them in.
Not sure. I did the five year plan and donated a little more on Saturday.
I really don’t understand how Marshall Rises has done so well over the same period, yet Herd Rises has lagged behind.
Is it the people running the campaigns?
I would assume many donors support both the athletic and academic sides.
They HAVE to bid it out. And, they HAVE to accept the lowest bid barring any undisclosed info on the bidder.
I'd say the bid specifications will be quite detailed. In a way that they aren't gonna get a firm who will do a hack job. That's the problem with the bid system, too many times you get what you pay for, only to have extreme costs in the following years to repair, replace or re-design what was done the first time around. One of these days, people will learn. We need to do our due diligence in this process and be extremely thorough.
I don't know if WV is the same, but in NC, this is where the very small yet hugely significant difference between a "Request for Proposals" and "Request for Qualifications" come in... If a government entity is trying to get something built as cheaply as possible regardless of quality, they ask for an RFP (any Joe Schmo can send in a bid). If they don't really want to bid it out to the lowest bidder automatically, they ask for an RFQ (then they can pick who they want as "most qualified" regardless if they are the lowest bid or not)... Political semantics at its finest.
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Agree. I hope it's an RFQ. The way Spears and Smith have spoken seems to indicate it will indeed be an RFQ and Proposal process. Which will be the best way to get a quality stadium within the time and budget allotted. I refer to the High Point Rockers stadium. A project headed by a Huntington native and Marshall grad. They did a design and build process with a contracting group - came in on time and on budget.
I believe the field was really independent of the rest, it seemed that way anyways.
As I have said, and will say again...
It is very unlike Hamrick to mess up a construction of a facility the way this was, entirely on his own.
Bad hires? Yes.
Not always PR friendly? Okay.
Terrible at building facilites? Hell no.
Name a facility he DIDN'T set out and build, minis the field? He always built top notch buildings and never seemed to come up short.
Given the timeline, the dissention in the MU BoG (because they wanted him out, as did plenty of you), a miscalculation of funds/cost for construction, and various outside factors it basically puts together, well, a collection of everyone's reasoning for it happening.
Personally, I think the MU BoG wanted a field built, just not by him, and it showed.
