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I'm not sure why I was attacked and called an idiot above. I support Huff and Hope he is the coach every Herd fan wants him to be. Just saying that he said that this team was ready to win now, he has done nothing to prove to me that he is some great coach. But I am more than willing to give him 4 years. But I also reserve the right as an alumni and booster to voice my displeasure about the program and the woe is me excuses that he gives after another disappointing season. If anyone has a problem about it, then maybe they should take more than 1 second/1 brain cell to do so. Nothing wrong with questioning a team or coach that IMO has failed their first season.
Excellent. Agree. Nobody is calling for CH to be fired. But this season was a failure. Talk about moving to a higher level is imbecilic. Talk, EVIDENCE FREE, that “the future is bright” is just childish.

Of course, CH should get at least 4 years (short of a Snyder like result). Hopefully he can figure it out and cease to fail.
 
Remember Huff has Doc players. Give him time to bring his recruits in and then evaluate. If he is here 4 years from now and not getting it done then we have a problem Houston.
I hear people say this but he inherited a team with 24 seniors. Almost every sports rag picked us to win the east and contend for the title. The same guys, minus 3-4 who graduated ,
had Marshall ranked #15 in the AP last season before the meltdown. We have more than enough talent on this team to be better than 7-6. Huff appears to be doing a solid job recruiting so i have no doubt we can improve. I am not worried I think we will do better in the future
 
I'm not sure why I was attacked and called an idiot above. I support Huff and Hope he is the coach every Herd fan wants him to be. Just saying that he said that this team was ready to win now, he has done nothing to prove to me that he is some great coach. But I am more than willing to give him 4 years. But I also reserve the right as an alumni and booster to voice my displeasure about the program and the woe is me excuses that he gives after another disappointing season. If anyone has a problem about it, then maybe they should take more than 1 second/1 brain cell to do so. Nothing wrong with questioning a team or coach that IMO has failed their first season.
I specifically linked to what you said. Here...I'll do it again so you understand why I believe that. It was a stupid uninformed comment.

.Maybe we would have won if Coach(Huff) wasnt out the whole off season looking for a job a
Please dont pretend you support the coach now. You'll give a guy 4 years but question his commitment and ability year 1? Yes. This makes you one of those fans who doesn't exactly use a brain cell when evaluating what the state of the program really was.
 
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I specifically linked to what you said. Here...I'll do it again so you understand why I believe that. It was a stupid uninformed comment.


Please dont pretend you support the coach now. You'll give a guy 4 years but question his commitment and ability year 1? Yes. This makes you one of those fans who doesn't exactly use a brain cell when evaluating what the state of the program really was.
Excuses.
How many of those "seniors" actually contributed on the field with high performance?
Excuses.
So you want the program run the exact same way it was done the last couple of years?
Excuses.

The Director of the Amen Chorus, for the thousandth time, posts that he will accept no analysis of CH. Everything is the fault of mean ole Doc and the players.
 
So you want the program run the exact same way it was done the last couple of years?
No. Huff is doing some things that I believe will help us reach our goal of winning a conference championship more than once every ten years. . I am just saying that the talent level was not the problem. We had essentially the same players.For example Wells was still here. Ali took over for Knox and we didn't miss a beat. Maybe it is all about culture and it is going to take more than one year to change that, I don't know. But blaming this year on a lack of talent is the wrong villain IMO.
 
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I hear people say this but he inherited a team with 24 seniors. Almost every sports rag picked us to win the east and contend for the title. The same guys, minus 3-4 who graduated ,
had Marshall ranked #15 in the AP last season before the meltdown. We have more than enough talent on this team to be better than 7-6. Huff appears to be doing a solid job recruiting so i have no doubt we can improve. I am not worried I think we will do better in the future
It’s true we didn’t lose much from last year in terms of numbers, but most teams didn’t. If you look at who we lost, that’s the problem. We lost our top 2 offensive linemen, our best DE, our best LB and top tackler, our #1 RB (who would have paired much better with Ali, little to no drop off), our best corner (people forget that McClain-Sapp was pretty good last year).

Additionally, with the two WR transferring to Purdue we lost our deep threat (Brock) and experience. Gaines was our only offensive skill position player who was a starter last year. Losing Thompson means Gammage has to go to X when he’s really a Z.

It’s like saying you got your whole car back, except for the tires.
 
Excuses.

Excuses.

Excuses.

The Director of the Amen Chorus, for the thousandth time, posts that he will accept no analysis of CH. Everything is the fault of mean ole Doc and the players.
When someone actually wants to analyze CH fairly I’ll have the conversation. Pointing to journalist predictions, point spreads and reading your failed attempts to “analyze” don’t count.
Hopefully
Loser language. We are not for you.
 
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Got to give Huff time and our support. He needs time put his team on the field. However, if he's looking to move on before that can occur, then we got the wrong guy.

Outside of the fact there were no rumors of the team spilling out into the street in some barroom brawl, hard to tell if Huff's "coaching" was an improvement this year. Although, I'm sure there were other areas that improved.

In business, seen guys who had great presentation skills...but, at the end of the day, it's about the numbers. If you can't drive the numbers, you're just another guy good at PowerPoint. So, getting all wound-up about a guy because he performs better in a press conference probably isn't the outcome we should use for performance evaluation.
 
Certainly CH is undefeated in press conferences.

The fan base has already cleaved. On one side we have the Amen Chorus. Who excuse make, blaming the players and the long gone previous administration. This crew ACTUALLY BELIEVES that CH was seriously considered for P5 jobs. They, with no reason to do so whatsoever, think that some future year (which, as we understand will always be some year to come) will be bright.

On the other side, are the, well, adults. Those who want to discuss CH. His poor record. The late game collapses. The poor play calling. The (apparent) looking for another job the day he got here. The underperformance. The beat downs.

Both sides, of course, are going to give CH more than a year. The adults because it is logical and reasonable. The Amen Chorus because of childlike faith. Both sides, of course, hope that CH will not repeat his underperforming year, and both sides hope that he actually can return the team to the championship form previously attained. The adults have hope, the Amen Chorus childlike faith.

When the AC’s childish world view is challenged, with actual analysis of CH, they attack. With name calling and other childish behavior.

Because a fair analysis of CH’s Year One is one of underperformance, if not failure. No other way to look at it.
 
I specifically linked to what you said. Here...I'll do it again so you understand why I believe that. It was a stupid uninformed comment.


Please dont pretend you support the coach now. You'll give a guy 4 years but question his commitment and ability year 1? Yes. This makes you one of those fans who doesn't exactly use a brain cell when evaluating what the state of the program really was.
So my winning percentage calculation is off??? No-Fact. He wasn't looking for jobs after a mediocre season? Yes he was- Fact.
I specifically linked to what you said. Here...I'll do it again so you understand why I believe that. It was a stupid uninformed comment.


Please dont pretend you support the coach now. You'll give a guy 4 years but question his commitment and ability year 1? Yes. This makes you one of those fans who doesn't exactly use a brain cell when evaluating what the state of the program really was.

I dare you to find one post where I said that I didn't support Coach Huff. Regardless of what your doltish opinion of my post is. I absolutely have every right to question his commitment after year 1. Actions speak louder than words. I understand where we are at as a program, we are mediocre year end and year out. He was brought in and was hired to bridge the gap. He is the one who said at the beginning of the season that he had the talent to win early and often. Everything in my post was based on factual information that you can feel free to look up and find anywhere on the internet.
 
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He wasn't looking for jobs after a mediocre season?
No he wasn’t

He is the one who said at the beginning of the season that he had the talent to win early and often.
He did? Really????? I remember after the Navy win his telling the fan base not to get their hopes up and we had a very long way to go to become champions. This team wasn’t ready.
Actions speak louder than words. I understand where we are at as a program, we are mediocre year end and year out
Then why get super concerned by a new coach with less than one year in the position.
I dare you to find one post where I said that I didn't support Coach Huff.
What the players should have said is....Maybe we would have won if Coach(Huff) wasnt out the whole off season looking for a job after winning 53.84% of his games his first year.
This isn’t supporting the coach. It is an amazingly uninformed irrational post.
 
No he wasn’t


He did? Really????? I remember after the Navy win his telling the fan base not to get their hopes up and we had a very long way to go to become champions. This team wasn’t ready.

Then why get super concerned by a new coach with less than one year in the position.


This isn’t supporting the coach. It is an amazingly uninformed irrational post.
Listen, in the real world you can be critical of someone and still have their back. We can agree to disagree, but everything I said is true and I do support coach Huff.
 
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Listen, in the real world you can be critical of someone and still have their back. We can agree to disagree, but everything I said is true and I do support coach Huff.
Of course you do. You and the Amen Chorus poster have different definitions of “support”. Like other adults, you understand that “support” and “blind syncophantic worship” are different things. In the real world, of course, the adult majority of Herd fans support CH and hope he can reverse his mistakes from Year One. The Amen Chorus does not have the capacity to understand this simple adult concept. In their world ANY criticism of CH, or any doubt of the golden future that CH will bring, such as asking “why believe such a thing?”are “attacks” and “ not supporting the coach”.

Since, even to the Amen Chorus, this season was one of underperformance and failure, they must come up with excuses. Blaming the players and the long gone previous coach.
 
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Of course you do. You and the Amen Chorus poster have different definitions of “support”. Like other adults, you understand that “support” and “blind syncophantic worship” are different things. In the real world, of course, the adult majority of Herd fans support CH and hope he can reverse his mistakes from Year One. The Amen Chorus does not have the capacity to understand this simple adult concept. In their world ANY criticism of CH, or any doubt of the golden future that CH will bring, such as asking “why believe such a thing?”are “attacks” and “ not supporting the coach”.

Since, even to the Amen Chorus, this season was one of underperformance and failure, they must come up with excuses. Blaming the players and the long gone previous coach.
I actually agree with you on this Sam. I want nothing more than to win. Whoever is head man should be able to be critiqued. It's nothing personal and doesn't mean that I do not support him.
 
I actually agree with you on this Sam. I want nothing more than to win. Whoever is head man should be able to be critiqued. It's nothing personal and doesn't mean that I do not support him.
Listen, in the real world you can be critical of someone and still have their back. We can agree to disagree, but everything I said is true and I do support coach Huff.
So you admit you were just being stupid when rambling about Huff "looking for other jobs" instead of coaching the program?

You want to be critical of program? Cool. Tell us exactly what he is doing behind the scenes to actually improve the program and how that is not the right way. How would you do it?
 
So you admit you were just being stupid when rambling about Huff "looking for other jobs" instead of coaching the program?

You want to be critical of program? Cool. Tell us exactly what he is doing behind the scenes to actually improve the program and how that is not the right way. How would you do it?
Lol, I'm not stupid, but you sir are very dense. I wasn't rambling about Huff, so please explain to me how interviewing at 2 different jobs while being on a job less than a year is not looking for other jobs. Tell me what about that statement is false or untrue? You also do not know if Huff was 100% focused or not while perusing other opportunities. Not once have I said that Huff is doing things the wrong way and am praying Huff is the answer. I'm not a D1 coach or privy to the day to day workings of our program. So the only thing I can judge is the results and actions of our Coach. Based on the information that is available to us, I believe his first year is a failure. That is my opinion, and you have yours. I personally have had enough of your childish name calling and you are an imbecilic and the best part of you ran down your mother's leg.
 
Not once have I said that Huff is doing things the wrong way
Quite talking in circles:
Listen, in the real world you can be critical of someone and still have their back
First you're critical, then you're not, then you are, then you're not...which is it?

so please explain to me how interviewing at 2 different jobs while being on a job less than a year is not looking for other jobs. Tell me what about that statement is false or untrue?
Its untrue. What else do you need to know.

Not once have I said that Huff is doing things the wrong way and am praying Huff is the answer. I'm not a D1 coach or privy to the day to day workings of our program. So the only thing I can judge is the results and actions of our Coach.
So you dont know what is going on behind the scenes?? Shocking.

The actions of our coach: A lot more to a college program than on the field x's and o's. Thats why I'll give any new coach the benefit of the doubt on the first year. In the case of Huff. He's overhauling EVERYTHING. From the paint on the walls in the shewey to the on the field product. From flying to meet with former players on an off week, to meeting with Alumni and community members regularly. He's doing what has needed to be done for a long time. Doing what was neglected. He's raising the standard and it will bare fruit.

your childish name calling and you are an imbecilic and the best part of you ran down your mother's leg.
😂 A lot to unpack with this one. I just laugh at you instead.
 
I actually agree with you on this Sam. I want nothing more than to win. Whoever is head man should be able to be critiqued. It's nothing personal and doesn't mean that I do not support him.
MUMAN3419 if that came from anybody other than San I would agree with you. I’m not sure if you knew but Sam has spent the last several years slamming anybody who critiqued our previous coach. He said we were awful fans and should be appreciative that we even have a team, that CUSA is a football conference and everybody tries in football which I’m still not sure what that means. 7-5 or 8-4 seasons where we play the in the 100s ranked schedule should be applauded and anybody who says otherwise Marshall football isn’t for you.

Sam changed his entire opinions the day the previous coach contract was not renewed. Now the conference is awful, we underachieved, 7-6 is pathetic. Everybody we played was terrible.

What’s funny is I agree with some of his takes I am disappointed in this year. I think Coach Huff does have a big job ahead of him and the first thing will be the culture if the team. But we lost some games that were very reminiscent of the last 11 years and I was hoping Coach Huff would change that. Honestly Coach Huff played a typical Doc cupcake schedule and turned in a typical Doc performance, which was the reason that we got rid of Doc in the first place. I still think Huff is going to be a good one but I’ll admit my excitement has definitely dimmed.

But the problem many of us have with Sam is that he’s a HUGE hypocrite because if Doc was still here and had the same record, losses, etc. his comments would be completely reversed. He would tell us how great it is we even played in a bowl game, CUSA is a meat grinder etc. etc. so that’s why it rings so hollow when he spews the stuff he says now.
 
MUMAN3419 if that came from anybody other than San I would agree with you. I’m not sure if you knew but Sam has spent the last several years slamming anybody who critiqued our previous coach. He said we were awful fans and should be appreciative that we even have a team, that CUSA is a football conference and everybody tries in football which I’m still not sure what that means. 7-5 or 8-4 seasons where we play the in the 100s ranked schedule should be applauded and anybody who says otherwise Marshall football isn’t for you.

Sam changed his entire opinions the day the previous coach contract was not renewed. Now the conference is awful, we underachieved, 7-6 is pathetic. Everybody we played was terrible.

What’s funny is I agree with some of his takes I am disappointed in this year. I think Coach Huff does have a big job ahead of him and the first thing will be the culture if the team. But we lost some games that were very reminiscent of the last 11 years and I was hoping Coach Huff would change that. Honestly Coach Huff played a typical Doc cupcake schedule and turned in a typical Doc performance, which was the reason that we got rid of Doc in the first place. I still think Huff is going to be a good one but I’ll admit my excitement has definitely dimmed.

But the problem many of us have with Sam is that he’s a HUGE hypocrite because if Doc was still here and had the same record, losses, etc. his comments would be completely reversed. He would tell us how great it is we even played in a bowl game, CUSA is a meat grinder etc. etc. so that’s why it rings so hollow when he spews the stuff he says now.
Fair enough. I do not usually post over here and not completely up to date on all the cliches/personalities. Some people have an agenda. I just wanted to give my view and gave some fact's on why I felt that way. But you can't make everyone happy, and some people won't take someone else's take. I gave my take on a season I thought was an overall failure and if hurt some people's sensibilities then so be it. Go Herd!
 
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That would be important. If it were true. It isn’t.

NO MATTER WHO IS THE COACH, if you cannot find challenge and pleasure in a what MU accomplishes, then, yes, Marshall sports are not for you. Nothing that happens here will ever suit you. You should find something else. I was responding to idiocy like “CDOA” and “worse than I-AA” criticisms of W I N S.

If/when CH defeats a team with a winning record, from CUSA or the SBC or even a non-conference I-A team, I will be the first to praise him for that. Hopefully, he can turn around his massive underperformance put in this year.
 
I do blame Huff for keeping Cramsey. If we had any kind of offense that could just give the D a few minutes rest then they wouldnt be gassed in the 4th and we wouldn't have blown 5 games. All gas no brakes was all bullsh!t and no real plan.
lol sorry that MU has an NFL caliber player who does what he's supposed to, runs the ball into the endzone...sorry that MU's offense didn't hold onto the ball very long because the OL made gaps and Ali sliced their defense.
Maybe if the DC were abke to force more 3 and outs instead of letting them rip our secondary apart, MU would've done better?
 
I thought we did as well as we could possibly expect against a better team up until they laid out our guy. Then Marshall tucked their peters between their legs and shut down. I really think that is the entirety of it.

Grant isn't bad but he can be shut down by a superior opponent because he is a fair QB with no weapons. The system isn't terrible. It's good. The play calling can be questionable at times but this is about as good as we can find at this level without whipping out big program level money.
 
I thought we did as well as we could possibly expect against a better team up until they laid out our guy. Then Marshall tucked their peters between their legs and shut down. I really think that is the entirety of it.

Grant isn't bad but he can be shut down by a superior opponent because he is a fair QB with no weapons. The system isn't terrible. It's good. The play calling can be questionable at times but this is about as good as we can find at this level without whipping out big program level money.
lot of truth in what you just said. Cramsey and Legg are bout what you get for the money unless you find an under the radar guy.
 
lot of truth in what you just said. Cramsey and Legg are bout what you get for the money unless you find an under the radar guy.
Yes you guys are right. But like you posted, there are great young minds out there. But you have to get lucky or at least know what your looking for.
 
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It’s true we didn’t lose much from last year in terms of numbers, but most teams didn’t. If you look at who we lost, that’s the problem. We lost our top 2 offensive linemen, our best DE, our best LB and top tackler, our #1 RB (who would have paired much better with Ali, little to no drop off), our best corner (people forget that McClain-Sapp was pretty good last year).

Additionally, with the two WR transferring to Purdue we lost our deep threat (Brock) and experience. Gaines was our only offensive skill position player who was a starter last year. Losing Thompson means Gammage has to go to X when he’s really a Z.

It’s like saying you got your whole car back, except for the tires.
Except Wells numbers improved from 2020. His completion % went from 61 to 66. Ali actually had better numbers than Knox. Ali averaged 5.6 yards per carry to Knox who was at 4.8. Guess who was our best receiver last year? If you said Gammage you would be correct . He had 878 this year and 409 last year. As far as OL goes, yes, we lost a couple really good linemen. But The replacements did a solid job as the numbers bare out IMO. Same way on defense. Hodge was a fantastic player with 6 sacks last year however Beauplan had 5. The total sacks on defense last year was 25 this year it was 40. Of course we played 3 extra games, but I don't see the huge fall off you claim . So I say the tires are still on the car we are still dealing with the same attitudes .
 
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I am definitely on board with giving Huff time, but I viewed Doc as a fairly effective recruiter of raw talent that he then under-developed and under-utilized. I do not think this team was a rebuild from a talent perspective, despite holes. I hoped Huff would develop and coach the same players better than Doc did. I believe this was the mandate and expectation. This did not happen in year one.
I still don't even know if actual talent is the issue. There are players up and down this roster that we were downright giddy to land. We have one of the best RBs in the nation on top of it.

I really believe it's the way this talent is being utilized.

Take Corey Gammage for example. Look at his offer list.


This dude is 6'4" and 220 lbs with speed and the majority of the routes he runs are short comeback routes and bubble screens. What's up with that? Save me the "Grant Wells sucks" argument. With this dude's size, speed, and athleticism we should be able to throw jump balls to him against some of the corners in this league. Shoot just think of the goal line plays we run. When is the last time you saw a back corner fade? Nope we rollout to the short side of the field and try get a pass off in traffic.

I go back to Xavier Gaines. This dude can play every single skill position at every conceivable alignment and he might be targeted 2-3 times a game.

I'm just of the opinion it doesn't matter who comes through those Shewey doors and out of the tunnel on Saturdays until we have an OC that actually knows how to use the talent he has we're going to continue to be mediocre.
 
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I'm not a student of the game of football and its many nuances like I am some other sports that I played and coached. However I noticed these stats from today's 17-30 ODU-Tulsa game.

Total yards 247-529
Passing 176-285
Rushing 71-244

We were extremely fortunate to beat ODU 20-13 in OT. Let's look at those same numbers.

Total yards 314-390
Passing 106-176
Rushing 208-91

We gave up almost 3x as many rushing yards to ODU as Tulsa did. Tulsa almost out-rushed us 3x against ODU.

Now tell me again how this is all on Grant Wells?

I am interested in your take on these stats and what they say to you. Thanks.
 
I'm not a student of the game of football and its many nuances like I am some other sports that I played and coached. However I noticed these stats from today's 17-30 ODU-Tulsa game.

Total yards 247-529
Passing 176-285
Rushing 71-244

We were extremely fortunate to beat ODU 20-13 in OT. Let's look at those same numbers.

Total yards 314-390
Passing 106-176
Rushing 208-91

We gave up almost 3x as many rushing yards to ODU as Tulsa did. Tulsa almost out-rushed us 3x against ODU.

Now tell me again how this is all on Grant Wells?

I am interested in your take on these stats and what they say to you. Thanks.
I don't understand what question you're even asking or what scenario you're asking us to parse out here.

You're trying to defend Grant (I think) by comparing defensive stats in two random, unrelated games? What do those stats tell you?

Also, 208 is not 3x 91. It's basically 2x.
 
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You're trying to defend Grant (I think) by comparing defensive stats in two random, unrelated games? What do those stats tell you?

Random and unrelated? ODU is the common opponent in both.

A common theme over the last few years has been criticism of our play-calling and or game plans, both offensively and defensively.

The questions I have are these and whether you think they are caused by bad coaching, bad play calls or defensive sets, lack of a game plan, failure to adapt, personnel, matchups, etc.

The Herd can't establish the run against ODU to the tune of 91 yards. Tulsa did to the tune of 244 yards. Why?

The Herd allowed ODU to have 208 rushing yards. Tulsa only allowed 71. Why?

Thoughts?

Also, 208 is not 3x 91. It's basically 2x
71 to 208 is roughly 3x. 91 to 244 is roughly 3x. Those are the comparisons.
 
Random and unrelated? ODU is the common opponent in both.

The Herd allowed ODU to have 208 rushing yards. Tulsa only allowed 71. Why?

Yes. Random and unrelated in terms of building some sort of grand hypothesis based on a single box score.

Just an FYI: We threw for 299 yard against ODU. Not 176.

ODU was way behind against Tulsa most of the game. Their workhorse QB Blake Watson only carried the ball 14 times.

Against us the game was tight throughout and Watson carried the ball 26 times.

Also, against us Darriel Mack played QB for ODU and he ran the ball 12 times himself. Hayden Mack, a pro-style QB, played the entire game against Tulsa and only carried the ball once for -7 yards.

ODU averaged 4 yards/carry against Tulsa and 4.3 against us. That's statistically insignificant.
 
Yes. Random and unrelated in terms of building some sort of grand hypothesis based on a single box score.

Not trying to build a grand hypothesis. Just looking at some statistics and asking some questions which I think are legitimate and reasonable.

Just an FYI: We threw for 299 yard against ODU. Not 176.

Sorry - typo. I was focusing on the differences in the running game. And over 50 yards of those came on the late TD.

Also, against us Darriel Mack played QB for ODU and he ran the ball 12 times himself. Hayden Mack, a pro-style QB, played the entire game against Tulsa and only carried the ball once for -7 yards.

ODU was way behind against Tulsa most of the game. Their workhorse QB Blake Watson only carried the ball 14 times.

I assume these are typos too. Isn't it Wolff instead of Mack? And isn't Watson a RB instead of a QB?

I understand statistics don't tell the whole story. You can run 9 plays for no gain and your average yard per play is 0. Break a 90 yard score on the next play and that average immediately jumps to 9 yards per play.

I keep hearing people complain about our play calling and gameplans. Just looking for some reconciliation between those statements and some game statistics.

You made some good points. Thanks for responding.
 
No. Huff is doing some things that I believe will help us reach our goal of winning a conference championship more than once every ten years. . I am just saying that the talent level was not the problem. We had essentially the same players.For example Wells was still here. Ali took over for Knox and we didn't miss a beat. Maybe it is all about culture and it is going to take more than one year to change that, I don't know. But blaming this year on a lack of talent is the wrong villain IMO.
I don't think you can change the culture in less than 1 year. The 2022 season should show progress.
 
Until MU can get high quality offensive linemen to allow the passing and running game to succeed, the team will be mediocre. I watched the Minnesota/WVU game last night and found out that the Gophers have 4 OL that will likely be drafted. P. J. Fleck knows that no offense can be effective if the OL gets dominated by the DL. MU can't compete for the blue chip guys, but we can bring in kids with high potential and develop them. The skill guys get the publicity, but the trench guys make it all work. Next year's W-L record will depend on how much improvement we make on the OL.
 
Until MU can get high quality offensive linemen to allow the passing and running game to succeed, the team will be mediocre. I watched the Minnesota/WVU game last night and found out that the Gophers have 4 OL that will likely be drafted. P. J. Fleck knows that no offense can be effective if the OL gets dominated by the DL. MU can't compete for the blue chip guys, but we can bring in kids with high potential and develop them. The skill guys get the publicity, but the trench guys make it all work. Next year's W-L record will depend on how much improvement we make on the OL.
OL & DL are the real strength of good teams - love the Hogs
 
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