These statements are right up there with other things you just never hear:
“Hand me that pipe organ.”, “Please gnaw my arm off.”, and, “This is an AWESOME 14-14 basketball team!”
This is top quality.
These statements are right up there with other things you just never hear:
“Hand me that pipe organ.”, “Please gnaw my arm off.”, and, “This is an AWESOME 14-14 basketball team!”
Marshall has won more games than any other team in CUSA the past 5 seasons combined. I know some of you only judge greatness by winning a conference championship, but it's not like these players aren't winning games.
That's not true. There have been publications which have looked at star rankings and what it means in terms of college success and making the NFL. 4 and 5 star high school recruits fare far better in succeeding in college and in making NFL rosters than 2 and 3 star recruits.
That doesn't mean that a 3 star kid can't end up having a better college/pro career than a 5 star kid, but the chances are overwhelmingly in favor of the 5 star kid . . . and that isn't because he went to a certain camp or played at a certain high school, but rather, because he is a better player as the rankings reflect.
A big part of this recruiting "success" is being able to take non-qualifiers. It doesn't matter if these rankings do or don't take into consideration the NQs that Marshall takes. The ability to know you can take them gives you a huge advantage in recruiting kids.
As we know, if a kid doesn't qualify, Marshall has a solid chance of landing him because of their ability to take unlimited NQs. Many other schools don't take a single one or have a very small limit on them. Just as important, there are plenty of kids on the bubble who end up qualifying. Those kids who are on the bubble academically? Many schools stopped recruiting them months ago. Schools that have a policy against taking them or have staffs that don't want to deal with frequent headaches that come along with kids who do awful academically don't want to waste their time recruiting kids who may not be allowed into school. That gives schools like Marshall a huge advantage in that they can keep recruiting you the entire way knowing that they can take you regardless of what happens. It isn't just the ability to take NQs that is a huge advantage; the ability to keep recruiting borderline kids who end up eligible is just as much of an advantage.
It's too bad Marshall couldn't keep this kid in Huntington. Their own city has had some very highly rated offensive lineman over the last few years who Marshall hasn't been able to get. Compare that with fellow G5 schools like Houston who have been able to keep 4 and 5 star kids home:
https://247sports.com/Player/Darnell-Wright-46035563/
I put that on a staff. How do you supposedly recruit a kid for months/years, spend time at his school talking to coaches, teachers, administrators, and other students, spend significant time getting to know him and his family, do at least one school/home visit, and still not have any red flags that would lead you to believe he'd pack up and leave so early?
Jaquan Webb was originally committed to play football at Ole Miss and was a highly rated 3-star (4-star on ESPN) by most of the recruiting sites. He decommitted from Ole Miss due to the internal issues they had going on there and we were able to get him in for an OV and signed him. My recollection is that he got homesick or didn't like it much in Huntington and decided to go back home to Ole Miss to run track. Note, he is from Oxford, MS and also had a track scholarship offer from Ole Miss.
Our only issue in 2018 was that we didn't have a replacement at QB that was as good as Litton was in 2017, just as Litton wasn't an adequate replacement for Cato from 2015-2017. Green has the potential to get to Cato's level of play, but our offense was inconsistent in 2018 due to the inconsistent play of Green and Thomson. Other than this, our only other problem was a couple of season ending injuries to key players.
Marshall has won more games than any other team in CUSA the past 5 seasons combined. I know some of you only judge greatness by winning a conference championship, but it's not like these players aren't winning games.
Big deal. Marshall should be winning more championships in this conference.
I've never seen someone complain so much about a program that they claim to support, it's really quite impressive.
I agree. A true fan calls out the BS. Marshall Football is an underachieving program.I stated a fact sorry if that bothers you. I’m from a generation where a differing opinion doesn’t hurt one’s feelings
Marshall has won more games than any other team in CUSA the past 5 seasons combined. I know some of you only judge greatness by winning a conference championship, but it's not like these players aren't winning games.
You know it’s bad when the worlds best Marshall basketball fan, herdmeister, says a women’s team would give us troubleThe way the BB team is playing ,we are now the worst team in the conference.
most of Doc's wins have been against teams which finished with losing records.
So were most of Pruett's.
So were most of Pruett's.
Pruett won more championships and beat better teams.So were most of Pruett's.
So were most of Pruett's.
WRONG WRONG WRONG......Pruitt's
I don't like Pruett whatsoever, but you spelled his name WRONG WRONG WRONG.
Why don't you like Pruett?I don't like Pruett whatsoever, but you spelled his name WRONG WRONG WRONG.
Take a lap, Gary.Rejected JOSH.... that hurts coming from your Non-JRN writing ass! I'm sure PRUETT loses sleep that the Great Josh does not like him.
You are deplorable!
Gary Sweeney in Charlotte (Page Pitt School of JRN & Mass Communications (1970)
Take a lap, Gary.
We'll see. Green has the highest ceiling of any QB we have signed during the Doc Era and that includes Cato and Litton.I hope I will end up eating crow...but I am not impressed nor do I believe Green is The Herd's future or present (for that matter) to get Marshall to & WIN a CUSA football title game.
HerdZilla22 in Charlotte
You are clueless when it comes to football.AGREE with your comments. Marshall is the name-brand school of any current CUSA members--- and they should be "in the hunt & dominating" CUSA FOOTBALL annually. Nothing less is acceptable!
The closest member in football success to Marshall....... is So. Mississippi. Some of the schools (ODU -2012 & Charlotte-2015) were not Division 1 football members and UAB & the Florida directional schools were second thoughts! Rice had some football history, however, they had NOT been to a bowl game since 1961 when they received an invitation in 2006...ending the second-longest bowl drought in the country at the time.
NO EXCUSE for Marshall not being in the Title Game every year....Strong recruiting base in Florida aided by Props.
HerdZilla22
We'll see. Green has the highest ceiling of any QB we have signed during the Doc Era and that includes Cato and Litton.
That’s because you’re racistI’d disagree.
You give me the choice between Litton and Green out of HS, not knowing what we know now, and I’d take Litton all day every day.
That’s because you’re racist
J/K
I think Green can be Cato II if he works at it. Litton just never put the work in to be good. At least good enough to win games for us in the clutch.I’d disagree.
You give me the choice between Litton and Green out of HS, not knowing what we know now, and I’d take Litton all day every day.
Why don't you like Pruett?
Well, to say you don't like a guy are pretty strong words. I thought maybe he had done something personal to you.I just hadn’t had time to respond.
The guy prospered off Donnan’s foundation and players (for the most part).
Did he win games? Sure he did, but he also did so with what was likely a D1 roster in D2 for the most part. With that said, I don’t recall schools lining up to steal him away from Marshall following his success here (which is something you all constantly preach about Doc). Why was that? Could it have been that they were aware of the cheating he was doing?
Then, he left the program in arguably the worst shape it’s been in since the late 80’s. I’d argue that Snyder had a bigger mess to clean up than Doc did (which was still a disaster when you look at the program as a whole).
Beyond all of that, he topped it off by coordinating an attempted mutiny of the program as well as the whole “96 team was treated wrong” BS.
So yeah, you could say that I don’t care for the guy even though I enjoyed the 90’s.
Well, to say you don't like a guy are pretty strong words. I thought maybe he had done something personal to you.
The records speak for themselves and I believe he did have a job offer at Houston. Marshall never played D2. And, I am not sure how he road Donnan's coat tails after year 4. Frankly, he had some really good teams. Won more championships and more games. I don't recall suffering too many humiliating home losses either.
But, oh well. I think you are more caught up in the fact people compare Doc to him.
The guy prospered off Donnan’s foundation and players (for the most part).
Did he win games? Sure he did, but he also did so with what was likely a D1 roster in D2 for the most part.
With that said, I don’t recall schools lining up to steal him away from Marshall following his success here (which is something you all constantly preach about Doc). Why was that? Could it have been that they were aware of the cheating he was doing?
I just hadn’t had time to respond.
The guy prospered off Donnan’s foundation and players (for the most part).
Did he win games? Sure he did, but he also did so with what was likely a D1 roster in D2 for the most part. With that said, I don’t recall schools lining up to steal him away from Marshall following his success here (which is something you all constantly preach about Doc). Why was that? Could it have been that they were aware of the cheating he was doing?
Then, he left the program in arguably the worst shape it’s been in since the late 80’s. I’d argue that Snyder had a bigger mess to clean up than Doc did (which was still a disaster when you look at the program as a whole).
Beyond all of that, he topped it off by coordinating an attempted mutiny of the program as well as the whole “96 team was treated wrong” BS.
So yeah, you could say that I don’t care for the guy even though I enjoyed the 90’s.
Why? The past was better than it is now.I would prefer to talk about the future rather than live in the past.
This thread is a perfect example of why I rarely visit this board anymore, nothing by whining, complaining and insulting others who have a different opinion.Snare should just stay away from the board for awhile