Doesn't matter who I think would be better. You despise candidates that are elitist snobs who count on rednecks, and then vote for exactly what you say you despise.
Do our votes even matter anymore?
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Doesn't matter who I think would be better. You despise candidates that are elitist snobs who count on rednecks, and then vote for exactly what you say you despise.
Pay your brother so he doesn't need welfare. I provide for my family why don't you do the same
That's right. You've got no dog in this fight, but come November you'll be voting for the one that already barked on TV.
He is an old hippy. What do you expect? Full of guilt. But, typical liberal. Big hypocrite.
Either way, I suspect you will have voted for the same loser TWICE in one year
You're a little scaredy cat that votes for a loudmouthed billionaire with zero ethics and a 6th grade vocabulary. You and the other trumkins think you're voting for an anti establishment candidate when the only difference is he's louder. As usual, you've been fooled again. You're an easy target.
technically, not true. look at 2008...
2,117 need to win the nomination. Obama had 1,828 and Killary had 1,726. Obama got 478 Super D's to Killary's 246. Killary also won the popular vote that year 48% to 47% for Hussein...
i guess xenu took all your money which is why your brother isn't making a living wage
No. Cruz would get crushed and there is no other candidate unless they pull some stunt an bring back a Romney(not likely). Romney would get crushed as well.
Might as well put a fighter in there and let him just throw punches and go down swinging.
Incorrect. The super delegates sides with the majority of pledged delegates, just like they're supposed to do.
You trumpkins don't even know what's going on in your own party. Kasich beats Hillary in polls and is neck and neck with Bernie.
then please explain why 246 Super D's sided with Killary despite the Big 'O getting the majority (1828 to 1726) pledged delegates...
Kasich is John McCain all over again. Apologetic and weak. Whatever lead he has in the polls would be blown quickly. We've had enough softballers like McCain and Romney. Chokers and losers. Get 'em out.
You claim to be a Republican yet do not understand the convention rules of your party. Maybe you really are a dumb hick.
I belong to no party because both of the Big Two are clusterfvcks with no regard for The People. Perhaps you should add "rube" and "sheep" to your self descriptors. You tell those of us who vote for third party options we waste our votes, but continue to vote for some shadowy delegates so your vote doesn't mean dick anyway.
If you think this delegate system sucks, the only option is to push for a new party, get involved, and demand it goes by direct election of its nominee. Those delegates are not going to give up their power, boozing, and whoring every fours years. Maybe they do screw Trump and he runs as an independent. Vote for him if he does, burn that motherfvcker down.
So, vote for a guy that has basically no chance to win the general election. Good plan.
Kaisch actually has a reputation as a goddamn asshole. He just doesn't show it in public...maybe if he did he would be in the lead.
In just about every state Bernie has won the super delegates don't give a shit and are voting for Hillary anyway. She had them wrapped up two years ago.
I don't care about this stuff enough to do that. This is waste of time entertainment like sports and TV. No matter who wins, life goes on. It's really quite meaningless.
That's what I'd have been doing with Kasich. He's McCain all over again like I said. That shit loses.
What part of him having a better chance to win the general election do you not understand?
It's funny how many people let the biased media polls dictate who they will vote for. I've heard more, "I'd vote for X, but they have no chance at winning" this year than ever before.
Based on what, current polling? Would you vote for Kasich?
I do not believe he has a chance to win the general election. No chance. He's not a fighter. Hillary would put him in his place in 5 seconds and the game would be over.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...-ripping-sanders-supporters-article-1.2580884
In spite of Sanders winning 15 states — including some by an 80-20 margin — over 94% of the 498 superdelegates have said they are backing Clinton anyway. Clinton currently has 469 superdelegate votes to just 29 for Sanders.
In Minnesota, Sanders won 61.6% of the vote, but 13 of the 16 superdelegates there, or 81%, including the governor, the senators, and many DNC members, say they are going for Hillary anyway. They aren’t even slightly persuaded by the will of the people.
In other states, like Colorado, where Sanders won with 59% of the vote, not a single superdelegate is voting for him. The same is true for Nebraska, where he won 57% of the vote but isn’t getting a single superdelegate.
It’s even worse in Idaho. Last week, Sanders won Idaho by a landslide with 78% of the vote. Every single superdelegate is going for Clinton anyway.
These states are anomalies. In every state Sanders won, except for his home state of Vermont, Clinton received almost every superdelegate vote there anyway.
Even there, where Sanders won over 86% of the vote, several of the superdelegates still opted to thwart the will of their state and pledge for Clinton.
Clinton supporters are quick to say, “these are the rules the candidates agreed upon,” and maybe that’s true, but voters are being ripped off. We didn’t decide on these rules and these officials are clearly going against the will of the people in their own states to support the establishment candidate who arranged for their support long before this election began.
Right now, if Sanders had the superdelegate votes that Clinton currently has, he’d be winning this race handily with 1,444 total delegates to Clinton’s 1,272.
Don’t say superdelegates aren’t determining this race. They are, and the practice should be abolished — immediately
If the agreed upon rules got changed immediately simply because Bernie supporters are upset then the Democrat party is a joke. Yes, the system sucks. But your guy got into it knowing full well the rules of the game. And knew exactly what he was up against with Hillary.
Haha, Bernie is definitely not my guy. I was just arguing against Extra's point about Super D's giving a damn about the will of the people.
If I remember correctly, in 2008 Hillary started with a super delegate lead over obama of something like 400-50. Check and see how that worked out in the end.
yes, we discussed this above. you incorrectly stated that the Super D's would follow the pledged (people vote) delegates at the convention when 246 Super D's out of 724 did EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE and voted against the people in 2008...
WHAT? you thought conservatives believe in democracy.
conservatives believe in authoritarian fascism.
