Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses
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Within 6 to 7 hours the FBI says no terrorism. There is no way to know that in that short time.
Within 24 hours or so, Mush says the US federal govt will pay for the entire replacement of the bridge. Why would you come out so fast and say that? Why wold that be necessary? Why wouldn't you figure out what happened? Why jump to that?
They said no such thing. You lying oath breaking trumptard.
You're an idiot.
There's an out-of-this-world conspiracy theory that the reason is that the Port of Baltimore, one of the largest shipping hubs in the U.S., is the top port in America for both imports and exports of automobiles and light trucks, Biden said, noting that 850,000 vehicles are moved through the port annually.
Fifteen thousand jobs depend on that port.
The bridge is "critical for travel," not just for Baltimore but for the Northeast Corridor, more than 30,000 vehicles cross it daily.
^^^No one in their right mind would believe such nonsense.^^^
Why do you lie?
The bridge was hit at 130am. They had made this announcement by 730 or 8am.
Tuesday morning
After the collapse, a search and rescue effort begins for the eight construction workers who were on the bridge. They worked for Brawner Builders and were filling potholes on the bridge.
Several agencies, including the FBI, sent dive teams into the water for the search.
The FBI also announced that there is "no specific or credible information to suggest there are ties to terrorism in this incident."
NTSB chair Jennifer Homendy the agency is leading the investigation, but focus remains on the people and families, saying "the rest can wait" and there wasn't a lot of information she could share at the time.
A timeline of the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Around 1:30 a.m. on Tuesday, Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge collapsed when a cargo ship lost power and crashed into it. 911 calls show how events unfolded.
www.cbsnews.com
Here is the exact quote
Special agent Bill DelBagno of the FBI’s Baltimore field office agreed, saying, “The FBI on very first looking at and assessing this matter from an investigative standpoint, I want to be clear there is no specific or credible information to suggest there are ties to terrorism in this incident.”
You know why he liesWhy do you lie?
The bridge was hit at 130am. They had made this announcement by 730 or 8am.
Tuesday morning
After the collapse, a search and rescue effort begins for the eight construction workers who were on the bridge. They worked for Brawner Builders and were filling potholes on the bridge.
Several agencies, including the FBI, sent dive teams into the water for the search.
The FBI also announced that there is "no specific or credible information to suggest there are ties to terrorism in this incident."
NTSB chair Jennifer Homendy the agency is leading the investigation, but focus remains on the people and families, saying "the rest can wait" and there wasn't a lot of information she could share at the time.
A timeline of the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse
Around 1:30 a.m. on Tuesday, Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge collapsed when a cargo ship lost power and crashed into it. 911 calls show how events unfolded.
Here is the exact quote
Special agent Bill DelBagno of the FBI’s Baltimore field office agreed, saying, “The FBI on very first looking at and assessing this matter from an investigative standpoint, I want to be clear there is no specific or credible information to suggest there are ties to terrorism in this incident.”
The ship lost power and hit a bridge. If they hadn’t come out and said “it’s not terrorism” you’d be criticizing Biden for taking so long to make a pretty clear determination. This is a weird windmill to choose to tilt at.
If the ship did indeed lose power why didn't they do the standard operating procedure of "dropping anchors"?
If there was time for the police to "stop traffic" there was certainly time for the ship to drop anchors.
Have you watched any of the videos, especially the sped up one?
What was it like 20 minutes from the first power outage until they hit the bridge?
They did drop anchor. Look at pictures of the ship. There have also been reports from voice and data recorder saying alarms and an order to drop anchor were heard.
Show what you are looking at. It was dark on the videos. After the collision the anchors could have been dropped if the picture is in daytime.
Must be fake news because the vessel would have stopped on a dime had it dropped its anchor.
The FBI said no such thing. They stated there was no credible evidence at the time to suggest there was terrorism. You lying trumptard oath breaker.
I don't. You do pretty much daily. You lying trumptard.
So the usual suspects? All I read was an order to drop anchors was made at 1:27, three minutes before the collision and one minute after requesting tugs. That doesn't say the anchors were dropped.
I'm not sure of the amount of tide there but it was approximately 30 minutes to high tide so the ship was running against the tide.
You said you could see the anchors in the pictures and I asked to see them. I'll ask again if there are images before impact that show the anchors dropped. Thanks.
Must be fake news because the vessel would have stopped on a dime had it dropped its anchor.
Well first I'd say the ship has "two" anchors, port and starboard. The ship was moving against the tide (but with the current of the river, if any at that time) with supposedly no power. I've not read where the anchors were actually dropped, just that an order to do so was given AFTER the police were notified to clear the bridge and AFTER tugs were called.
I'd say if there was enough concern to contact the police about a potential collision the ANCHORS should have been dropped at that time because a ship that size can't "stop on a dime". Would that action likely damaged the hull? Quite likely but the overall damage would have been far less than we are seeing now and possibly without any loss of life.
There was an image that appeared to show the anchor in the water. I will try to go back in find it. No there is not video that I've seen. The tinfoil hat that you herdman and Raleigh are sharing is starting to cut off blood flow to your brain. Everyone is just making up the alarms blaring and the call to drop anchor, there were two harbor pilots on board. The lights flickered a few times coming back on before going completely out. I'm sure there was a lot of trouble shooting going on in the minutes leading up to complete loss of power. The alarms go off calls go out for tugs at 126 call to drop anchor at 127. It's easy to Monday morning qb the order that things were done when we were not in that situation.
I would rather have a dose of healthy skepticism rather than swallowing the (quick to be announced) official line like you so evidently have.
I have not seen where the anchors were actually dropped. You said it was reported that they had and you had seen pictures. When I asked for the pictures you substituted references to several mainstream media reports that a call to drop anchors was made three minutes before impact.
I again asked for the pictures and then the name-calling begins (tinfoil hat). Nice deflection when you can't back up what you posted.
This incident can likely be attributed to one of four things (or a combination thereof).
1. Intentional - This is pretty straightforward. There is much turmoil in the world, especially in the Middle East and Ukraine. We have nations engaging us in financial and strategic proxy wars now. This impact at the bridge's most apparent vulnerable point, while looking like an accident, delivers a severe economic blow to the US.
2. Accidental - The ship lost power at the most inopportune time, protocols were followed including dropping anchors, however they didn't catch or have time to take up slack and the bridge was struck at its apparent most vulnerable point.
3. Negligence - The ship lost power, the captain and/or pilot thought they had enough time to correct the situation before there would be an impact. Contributing factors to this would include the concern that a false alarm or dropping anchors would likely damage the hull, be expensive and career damaging.
4. Incompetence - The captain and/or pilot neither had the training, competency or training to handle such a situation.
The blood flow to my brain is fine. Now find the produce the pictures that you said you had seen when I mentioned I hadn't heard that the anchors had actually been dropped. I simply want to know which of these four scenarios most likely occurred.
Yes anchor is dropped. Don't know when it was dropped but it was dropped and makes sense that it would have happened when it was called for. Especially with the ship being effectively grounded on the bottom with all the weight of the bridge sitting on top of it
Do you know for sure the ship is effectively grounded? That ship carries a lot of weight, more than a section of the bridge, especially with the loss of containers. It was also still under way in the channel and not grounded when it struck the bridge. It didn't miraculously ground itself after impact and then be stabilized from currents and removal of debris.
An anchor is much like a parking brake in a car. You use them both when the vehicles are at rest and not in motion (but not when tied off at a dock). This image does not prove the anchor was dropped. It only shows it is deployed at the time the ship is at rest. I still see the water line of the ship pretty much level. I don't think it is grounded for that reason.
It does not necessarily make sense that the anchor(s) was dropped when it was called for unless someone was already at the station. It takes time to move from station to station especially during an emergency situation.
You seem to be grasping at more straws to prove the current narrative than I am in trying to figure out what happened.
What I think will happen will be an expansion of requirements to have tug escorts in and out of certain, if not all, ports of this type.
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The hull could be breached by the impact, the emergency dropping of the anchors or both. It appears she lost her starboard anchor in the collision. That as well as imprints on the bed would indicate if the anchors were dropped before impact. I'm just not sure I would trust anything I hear right now, and maybe not later either.
When debris is removed the ship could begin moving in about any direction. If she has taken on water she could also slip into a deeper part of the channel (if it exists) and possibly capsize, especially with only one anchor. I wonder if the bridge piers are stout and/or intact enough to be used as anchor points. Inertia is real and the amount of weight and volume at risk is huge. This could be a huge and lengthy salvage process.
And I'm not being critical with this. It says wreckage on the bottom and nothing about the ship. I'm seldom able to see babies in ultrasounds...😚 I just can't see a ship in those images.
Not terrorism and we will pay for the entire bridge.
Who would just come right and say we will pay foenthe entire thing? Why would you wait for.sn investigation? See who was at fault. Maybe hold someone responsible?
Hey don't worry about knocking a major bridge down, we will pay for it.
Who would just come right and say we will pay foenthe entire thing? Why would you wait for.sn investigation? See who was at fault. Maybe hold someone responsible?
Hey don't worry about knocking a major bridge down, we will pay for it.
seriously, these feds, FBI, come on there the same morning within 7 hours which was on tv and documented, not terrorism. Then, the Mush Brain comes out and says the feds will pay for it all. Why not wait and see what happened? Nope, we are going to just pay for it all.
Are you ever going to wake up and realize what a clown show they are and how we are being lied to and duped all the time?
Because responsibility and insurance claims will be tied up in the courts for years.
Meanwhile, we must get the port reopened ASAP. And this bridge was the route for all hazardous cargo in Baltimore...and also the route for transportation between docks in Port of Baltimore. It's kinda important.
Start the effort now. Pay for it. Then go after who needs gone after for restitution.
Looks like it's $44MM...
Cargo Ship Owner Seeks $44 Million Liability Limit | Transport Topics
The owner of the ship that rammed a bridge in Baltimore, killing six workers and disrupting the eastern U.S. transportation network, is seeking to limit its liability to about $43.7 million.
Yehh, they ruled out terrorism with 7 hrs and the POTUS is walking around saying the feds will pay for it all.
Can we just admit the teleprompter has more cognitive ability than Mush at this point.
Look. I don't believe the government for shit. They've been lying to us for 75+ years and will continue to lie to us. That being said, it's pretty clear this was an unfortunate accident and a complete fvck up by the shipping company (maintenance of the vessel, etc.) and the crew (failure to take proper actions or mitigate when the shit hit the fan).
As for paying for the bridge, what else can they do in this situation? Raoul is correct - you pay for it now and then sue the living hell out of anyone and anything that is even remotely responsible.
As for paying for the bridge, what else can they do in this situation? Raoul is correct - you pay for it now and then sue the living hell out of anyone and anything that is even remotely responsible.
You're a Godless lying idiot. The FBI did NOT say there was no terrorism. They stated there was no credible evidence of terrorism. You continually lie and then end up believing your own lies.
Explain to everyone on the board WHY you would wait to see what happened. You idiot.
"we are just going to pay for it all". Who do you think pays for bridges to be built? Idiot.
_________Godless lying trumptard oath breaker^^^
