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Future schedule news??

Been there twice, and would surely love to go back again; a bit of a walk from parking to the stadium from regular parking, but what a venue. Hope this turns out to be the news we've been waiting for. Not unlike going to Pitt, a bit of a walk from parking there too.
 
Meanwhile the final game to round out this season's HERD basketball schedule will be determined any day now. Supposedly the best two out of three-coin flip will take place in Coach D'Antoni's office "soon" as to whether the " "coveted slot" will be taken by the University of Pikeville or Rio Grande!! Stay tuned, HERD Fans! A "massive" run on the CAM ticket office is expected to immediately follow! ;):)
 
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I think a 1 for 1 with NC St would be a huge win! Or even the one game there would be fun.

I do wish we had a more consistent out of conference schedule so we’d have less situations like this to begin with. On that note, for fun I did search what our most frequently played teams were.

Here’s what I found; Ohio U (32), Miami OH (30), Kent St/Toledo/Western Michigan/Bowling Green (20+), ECU (16), Louisville (15), UAB (12), UCF (12), more CUSA/MAC WVU Cincinnati Va Tech (10-6)

I forget how frequently we played Louisville in the past, but again I’d love to play Ohio U or Miami OH yearly and continue pushing for ECU, Louisville, UCF, WVU, Cincinnati and Va Tech. Then filling our other holes with MAC teams, not FCS. I know I’m beating a dead horse, just too much history left on the table and it just seems like nobody wants to play us anymore IMO.
 
I think a 1 for 1 with NC St would be a huge win! Or even the one game there would be fun.

I do wish we had a more consistent out of conference schedule so we’d have less situations like this to begin with. On that note, for fun I did search what our most frequently played teams were.

Here’s what I found; Ohio U (32), Miami OH (30), Kent St/Toledo/Western Michigan/Bowling Green (20+), ECU (16), Louisville (15), UAB (12), UCF (12), more CUSA/MAC WVU Cincinnati Va Tech (10-6)

I forget how frequently we played Louisville in the past, but again I’d love to play Ohio U or Miami OH yearly and continue pushing for ECU, Louisville, UCF, WVU, Cincinnati and Va Tech. Then filling our other holes with MAC teams, not FCS. I know I’m beating a dead horse, just too much history left on the table and it just seems like nobody wants to play us anymore IMO.
It may be that other than no one wanting to play us, it’s we demand too much to play. They can find better deals elsewhere. Might be the issue. Who knows.
 
It may be that other than no one wanting to play us, it’s we demand too much to play. They can find better deals elsewhere. Might be the issue. Who knows.
True and I suppose I’m just a little jealous lately of the schedules that some of our peers have found themselves in. WVU Vs Pitt, ODU Vs VaTech, App St Vs UNC, ECU Vs NC ST, all exciting games. I understand the FCS games have a purpose, but they can be a buzz kill. Feels somewhat like a practice Vs the excitement of bickering with WVU, Ohio U, Miami OH, Louisville, ECU and UCF fans before and after games. That said I am pleased with the ECU and VaTech series, NC ST would be great too! Just want more consistency and history, our OOC schedule is pretty important based on how attendance goes with the weather.
 
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True and I suppose I’m just a little jealous lately of the schedules that some of our peers have found themselves in. WVU Vs Pitt, ODU Vs VaTech, App St Vs UNC, ECU Vs NC ST, all exciting games. I understand the FCS games have a purpose, but they can be a buzz kill. Feels somewhat like a practice Vs the excitement of bickering with WVU, Ohio U, Miami OH, Louisville, ECU and UCF fans before and after games. That said I am pleased with the ECU and VaTech series, NC ST would be great too! Just want more consistency and history, our OOC schedule is pretty important based on how attendance goes with the weather.
Agree.
 
A rumor broke Monday about us picking up a game in a "destination city" for next year... Raleigh is a great town and we have a ton of alumni in NC.

Virginia Tech, ECU and NC State next year would be a hell of a non conference slate.


Imagine who we might have at QB then. Fancher and our current freshmen QB'S won't have much starting experience before then. Getting them reps this season during blow outs like we just had with Norfolk will definitely be valuable.

I would LOVE to see NC STATE on our schedule. I would be singing lots of praise for our AD if this happens.
 
True and I suppose I’m just a little jealous lately of the schedules that some of our peers have found themselves in. WVU Vs Pitt, ODU Vs VaTech, App St Vs UNC, ECU Vs NC ST, all exciting games. I understand the FCS games have a purpose, but they can be a buzz kill. Feels somewhat like a practice Vs the excitement of bickering with WVU, Ohio U, Miami OH, Louisville, ECU and UCF fans before and after games. That said I am pleased with the ECU and VaTech series, NC ST would be great too! Just want more consistency and history, our OOC schedule is pretty important based on how attendance goes with the weather.

You're comparing us to wvu, who is a P5 program, playing another P5 program...and a rival game that hasn't been played in a long time.
...and somehow think MU can do the same?!

You're comparing App State and UNC who are in-state, a state who actually doesn't mind scheduling and knows what good it does.
Same with OSU and VT, ECU and NCST.

Funny because these are in-state games and half you indecisive folks will complain and say, "MU doesn't need wvu" as will their fans too.

You then think there's really going to be excitement for...Miami OH? Nobody cared back then, they won't care now. You think MU fans will show up in November for Miami, or their 37 traveling fans?
Ohio is about the only team both fanbases really care about.

You then acknowledge that MU has actually scheduled NCST, Louisville, ECU, and VT???

Like what are you rambling about? MU has scheduled plenty of the teams you just mentioned and are supposedly jealous of.
 
It may be that other than no one wanting to play us, it’s we demand too much to play. They can find better deals elsewhere. Might be the issue. Who knows.

What does MU demand so much of, a return game?

Yeah, sorry that's too demanding because not just a very large crowd will attend the game, but the local economy in a poor economic area, will gain a huge boost too.
 
What does MU demand so much of, a return game?

Yeah, sorry that's too demanding because not just a very large crowd will attend the game, but the local economy in a poor economic area, will gain a huge boost too.
Marshall may demand a bigger payday for return game, we may not be able to pay the asking price for a team to come here. We may demand more of a 1-1 than 2-1 or 3-1 with the bigger programs. Many factors could play into it. Just throwing the idea out there.
 
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A rumor broke Monday about us picking up a game in a "destination city" for next year... Raleigh is a great town and we have a ton of alumni in NC.

Virginia Tech, ECU and NC State next year would be a hell of a non conference slate.
Be great to have home and home with NC State, but a "Destination city" someone needs to get out more. I lived down the road from Raleigh in Greensboro for 2 year, Raleigh is not where near what would normally be considered a Destination City.
 
I'd love to get as many of these schools as possible on our future schedules:

Rutgers
Maryland
Virginia
Kentucky
Vandy
Tennessee
UNC-CH
Wake Forest
South Carolina
Miami (FL)
Arkansas
Indiana
Purdue
Northwestern
Illinois
Pitt
Penn St. (already scheduled I think)

Surely we can get some of these schools on the schedule, can't we? I think we have to stop demanding a 1 for 1 a la Hamrick. We have not earned that. 2 for 1 is perfectly acceptable. Cold weather will not be a factor because it'll most likely be scheduled early on in the season.
 
Be great to have home and home with NC State, but a "Destination city" someone needs to get out more. I lived down the road from Raleigh in Greensboro for 2 year, Raleigh is not where near what would normally be considered a Destination City.
Plans can change.
That said think about this… you could go to Raleigh for a game on 9/2, then go to the beach for Labor Day and through the week. Go to ECU 9/9, then come home. One trip, one week, two games. Not bad
 
You're comparing us to wvu, who is a P5 program, playing another P5 program...and a rival game that hasn't been played in a long time.
...and somehow think MU can do the same?!

You're comparing App State and UNC who are in-state, a state who actually doesn't mind scheduling and knows what good it does.
Same with OSU and VT, ECU and NCST.

Funny because these are in-state games and half you indecisive folks will complain and say, "MU doesn't need wvu" as will their fans too.

You then think there's really going to be excitement for...Miami OH? Nobody cared back then, they won't care now. You think MU fans will show up in November for Miami, or their 37 traveling fans?
Ohio is about the only team both fanbases really care about.

You then acknowledge that MU has actually scheduled NCST, Louisville, ECU, and VT???

Like what are you rambling about? MU has scheduled plenty of the teams you just mentioned and are supposedly jealous of.
Fair and to each it’s own, we are not on those levels, but I’m just saying as a college football fan I’ll watch games like MTSU/WKU, FIU/FAU, Ohio U/Miami OH for no other reason then it’s a rivalry game.

I can only speak for myself and for what I think is exciting. I think Marshall does a lot of great things, but 1 how can you get into a rivalry like Ohio unless it’s played every year. 2 You may not like Miami, but it’s a winnable game, does better than an FCS game (any local FBS would), travels into an alumni hotspot (with two MAC teams on the schedule you could have one at home and one away, keeping your presence in Ohio and having a meaningful home game) and gives our conference credibility against other conferences. 3 yes I’ll praise the athletic department for scheduling success and getting us in the SunBelt, but you have to have CONSISTENCY. This year I like Notre Dame and Bowling Green, but having our two OOC home games as FCS schools in our most important home games (for attendance) is a let down. I know there are excuses for how it happened, but this is the product we put together…
 
Fair and to each it’s own, we are not on those levels, but I’m just saying as a college football fan I’ll watch games like MTSU/WKU, FIU/FAU, Ohio U/Miami OH for no other reason then it’s a rivalry game.

I can only speak for myself and for what I think is exciting. I think Marshall does a lot of great things, but 1 how can you get into a rivalry like Ohio unless it’s played every year. 2 You may not like Miami, but it’s a winnable game, does better than an FCS game (any local FBS would), travels into an alumni hotspot (with two MAC teams on the schedule you could have one at home and one away, keeping your presence in Ohio and having a meaningful home game) and gives our conference credibility against other conferences. 3 yes I’ll praise the athletic department for scheduling success and getting us in the SunBelt, but you have to have CONSISTENCY. This year I like Notre Dame and Bowling Green, but having our two OOC home games as FCS schools in our most important home games (for attendance) is a let down. I know there are excuses for how it happened, but this is the product we put together…
You touched on it at the end but this year’s non conference schedule gets a mulligan. Appalachian State was going to be the second OOC home game and, at the time, fit exactly one of the types of OOC games we should look for.

Covid wrecked a good 2020 home OOC schedule, and Navy is throwing a wrench in a solid 2023 OOC schedule. We might net positive out if it but it’s still a wrench.

I largely agree with you. It would be better if Miami was good and drawing fans. They were full up when we went there in 97, they were almost full up in 99, but our non conference games with them… they just don’t draw anyone anymore.

In a perfect world we could rotate Va. Tech, Kentucky, Louisville, Cincinnati, WVU, Pitt, Indiana (we should look there if possible), Purdue, UNC/NC State over the course of 10-15 years, with ECU, Ohio, Miami, Bowling Green, Toledo throughout 10 years. Chase an Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Tennessee, Penn State type of opponent over 10 years.

I think our scheduling philosophy has shown an effort to do just that. Hopefully we get even better at it in upcoming years.
 
I'd love to get as many of these schools as possible on our future schedules:

Rutgers
Maryland
Virginia
Kentucky
Vandy
Tennessee
UNC-CH
Wake Forest
South Carolina
Miami (FL)
Arkansas
Indiana
Purdue
Northwestern
Illinois
Pitt
Penn St. (already scheduled I think)

Surely we can get some of these schools on the schedule, can't we? I think we have to stop demanding a 1 for 1 a la Hamrick. We have not earned that. 2 for 1 is perfectly acceptable. Cold weather will not be a factor because it'll most likely be scheduled early on in the season.

Wow, so you demand we play these teams then say we should NOT demand a return game 1:1 and instead go for 2:1??

So...who do you think would be available? Oh, right, teams that don't generate any interest. The P5 has shown, you WILL get a crowd in Huntington.

But somehow, MU needs to schedule P5's, then, NOT have a return game...then wonder why MU's home schedule is not fun or any good.

Brilliant.

Stick to the current format and keep it regional.
 
Fair and to each it’s own, we are not on those levels, but I’m just saying as a college football fan I’ll watch games like MTSU/WKU, FIU/FAU, Ohio U/Miami OH for no other reason then it’s a rivalry game

Wow, thank goodness you aren't the AD, because you're saying MU should stay in CUSA...and outside of goddamn Sam, everyone agrees, that would be the absolute dumbest idea ever.

Minus OU, there is nobody who is a rival enough to draw a crowd. Clearly, nobody cared about anyone in CUSA outside of wku and their crowds were pitiful.

As for those teams being rivals themselves, maybe OU/Miami OH, nobody cares about one or the other.
Their games are poorly attended.
The fans have 10,000 other things to do.
The teams are generally terrible.
TV networks would laugh your tearful testimony about "tradition" and "what makes football fun" using those examples, out of the room.

I can only speak for myself and for what I think is exciting. I think Marshall does a lot of great things, but 1 how can you get into a rivalry like Ohio unless it’s played every year. 2 You may not like Miami, but it’s a winnable game, does better than an FCS game (any local FBS would), travels into an alumni hotspot (with two MAC teams on the schedule you could have one at home and one away, keeping your presence in Ohio and having a meaningful home game) and gives our conference credibility against other conferences. 3 yes I’ll praise the athletic department for scheduling success and getting us in the SunBelt, but you have to have CONSISTENCY. This year I like Notre Dame and Bowling Green, but having our two OOC home games as FCS schools in our most important home games (for attendance) is a let down. I know there are excuses for how it happened, but this is the product we put together…

What you think is exciting, is a literal waste of airtime for everyone else.

1. Ask wvu and Pitt, who hadn't played in like 10 years, if people can be excited, even if the rival is inconsistent. MU had big crowds for OU when they played.

2. Winnable? Yeah, until it comes to legitimizing a coach's ability to coach, Miami OH was terrible every time we played them, and because they sucked, the win didn't count. It means no more than an FCS game...neither to them nor us.
To gain credibility, you want your conference to schedule up, not down. You also want to schedule teams people OUTSIDE of the two fantasies are going to want to see.

3. Due to your lack of intelligence in the first two "points," your appreciation or criticism of MU is/and should be dismissed entirely. The fact you seem to ignore that App State has already built a modern rivalry with MU. Many students weren't even born when MU was in the SoCon, but have seen the last few games played and seen how good they were.
The same can be said for other, regional opponents.
MU has a decent set of OOC schedules, combined with a current conference slate of good teams. You seem to act like you can't see that, and feel entitled that MU, in 1 season, is somehow woefully inconsistent because: they had to deal with COVID which screwed up established scheduling, they had an AD and complete change in administration, and idiots like you think it really is as simple as picking up a phone and saying, "Hey, can we play you guys? Yeah, no worry of a return game. Yeah, we get a paycheck, our AD will burn through in an hour, the local economy will take a hit because you don't have to play here, but you guys will have us at your place. Uh...why are you laughing at me?"
 
Wow, so you demand we play these teams then say we should NOT demand a return game 1:1 and instead go for 2:1??

So...who do you think would be available? Oh, right, teams that don't generate any interest. The P5 has shown, you WILL get a crowd in Huntington.

But somehow, MU needs to schedule P5's, then, NOT have a return game...then wonder why MU's home schedule is not fun or any good.

Brilliant.

Stick to the current format and keep it regional.
Jesus, you must be an unhappy little man to be such a condescending dickhead. I don't care if you agree with me. Nothing wrong with a 2:1 or a nice paycheck. Most of the teams I listed are teams we haven't played or it has been a while. I don't hear you bitching about the cool $1.25 MM we pocketed on Saturday. But whatever.
 
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For me, I am thinking take the next few years, P5 money game, just go to their place and be done. Attempt to pick P5's with a heart beat. After a few years should we play then close and win a few then our history will not kill them with a loss and could get a few 1-1s(IE: App State and Boise from previous years) Until then do 2 high end G5s H-A 1-1s and I do like playing Ohio every year and the 4th OOC. Outside some craziness in reorganization of college football again -- NO LOWER DIVISION GAMES EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Jesus, you must be an unhappy little man to be such a condescending dickhead. I don't care if you agree with me. Nothing wrong with a 2:1 or a nice paycheck. Most of the teams I listed are teams we haven't played or it has been a while. I don't hear you bitching about the cool $1.25 MM we pocketed on Saturday. But whatever.

Complain about the schedule in an acceptable "off" year.
Then propose a format that actually guarantees "off" years more often than not.

Then claim the AD needs to do this.

Regionally, schools like VT, Duke, NC State, Louisville, Cincy, and Wake Forest are the most realistic options. They are beatable, within driving distance for fans, and (most importantly) can develop a solid scheduling relationship in the future.
One thing Hamrick seemed to have done with VT, is establish this.
Also, theikes of Tech aren't so far out of our league that they'd thumb their noses up at us if we asked for a return game.

Plenty of whom you listed, wouldn't. Minus the bottom of the barrel of the elite P5's, it's is highly unlikely MU gets anything in return.

So then MU has to schedule someone else, whom you'd consider below us. Notre Dame proved, MU isn't royalty by any means, but that's fine.
As for the paycheck...
Why am I to complain? Notre Dame has its own little world, so to speak. They are very particular in who they play. It wouldn't shock me if Hamrick inquired about a return game, but MU neither has the allure nor facility to house a return game...and that's fine. As said, Notre Dame does it's own thing and a paycheck was inevitable. Same for ohio state and the elite programs of the NCAA.
 
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