fyi Charles Huff..
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How interesting that Pauxatoney Sam crawled out of his hole 2 days early after a Herd victory. Usually Tuesdays after a win (to give the gloaters a chance to exhaust themselves) & moments after a Saturday loss so he can thump his ancient chest and proclaim himself king of prognosticators!
"If we beat JMU, I will admit, and as hard of a pill it is to swallow because I would rather sell my kids or family to prostitution and human trafficking, I will admit I was wrong about Huff and MU."
Fixed it for you.
The greatest and best thing you can do at this point, is remove yourself from the board.
Huff is doing a great job this year. I told you folks earlier he would be back for a 5th year and he will unless he is hired away.
The 7 FBS teams we have beaten are a combined 28-48. None have a winning record. I don’t care what ranking service you look at or what they rank our SOS, we haven’t beat a team with a winning record and the teams we have beaten have an average 4-7 record after 11 games.
We lost to a 5-6 team and a 7-4 team in addition to a 10-1 great team.
We need to beat JMU to give any appearance of legitimacy to our record.
We lost to a 5-6 team and a 7-4 team in addition to a 10-1 great team.
We need to beat JMU to give any appearance of legitimacy to our record.
That keeps being mentioned. First, it is false. The FCS opponent has a winning record and was in the top 20 yesterday. Second, you're now removing two games (FCS + next week) so basing it on a 10 game schedule instead of what could possibly be a 13 or 14 game schedule.
The season isn't over. Marshall could very easily have a win next week (which would qualify), have App State win next week which would be another victory over a winning record, and have a couple of teams that could finish over .500 with wins next week and in a bowl game.
Louisiana, which will probably finish 10-2, will have a win against a 7-5 team and possibly another 7-5 teams. That isn't much different than what Marshall has or will have.
^^^moronic level post. Further demonstrating you’re usually wrong.
Any more ifs you want to toss in there?
Where we stand today is where we stand. IF we beat JMU I already said that adds legitimacy to our record. Who cares what Louisiana’s record is, they aren’t on our schedule.
Yes, IF you were honest, you'd admit that the victory over Stony Brooke ruins your attempt.
IF you were honest, you'd admit that it doesn't make sense to make the claim you have by not counting one of the games and doing it with still 2-3 games left to play.
IF you were honest, you'd admit that there are opportunities still for Marshall opponents to finish with records above .500.
It shows that even a 10-2 team, in a G5, will have wins against very similar teams that Marshall win.
Is having two wins against 7-5 teams all that different than having three wins against 6-6 teams? Nope.
Stoney Brooke is an FCS team. They would be a bottom of the barrel CUSA team. Beating them shows nothing and proves nothing. They aren’t NDST or some other FCS powerhouse. They are in 6th place in their FCS conference.
That win means nothing just like our loss to Ohio State means nothing because both were foregone conclusions before kickoff.
Two of the teams you are using to potentially prop up Marshall, App and Coastal, because they might get bowl eligible, we’re also both beaten by Louisiana. So if we pick up wins against two bowl teams they increase their number equally. They beat their sub 500 ACC team, we lost to ours. We both lost to a top 20 team. They have beaten 2 conference teams in the top 7, we have beaten zero in the top 7.
That win means nothing just like our loss to Ohio State means nothing because both were foregone conclusions before kickoff.
Two of the teams you are using to potentially prop up Marshall, App and Coastal, because they might get bowl eligible, we’re also both beaten by Louisiana. So if we pick up wins against two bowl teams they increase their number equally. They beat their sub 500 ACC team, we lost to ours. We both lost to a top 20 team. They have beaten 2 conference teams in the top 7, we have beaten zero in the top 7.
Ok. So we are using the banker SOS ranking system now?
Basically one where you simply look at a win and loss record and call it a day?
Gotcha.
1) They have a winning record. That, alone, destroys your argument. But now you want to argue the quality of the team versus your original claim (winning record). Fine, but that means you'd have to also destroy your argument Marshall had a win against a 5-6 SEC team which would surely be better than a 6-5 Sun Belt team. Consistency in your arguments would be good.
2) They wouldn't be bottom of the barrel in C-USA. They'd beat Kennesaw State, MTSU, and probably UTEP. They'd be about an equal with FIU and @The Real SamC 's favorite team, NMSU.
3) It is "Stony" without the E.
This is what I mean by lack of consistency. On one hand, you want to use Sagarin for your argument. On the other hand, you ignore Sagarin. App State is in Sagarin's top 7 Sun Belt teams.
So suddenly you don't care about everyone else except when it suits your useless argument??
Louisiana is likely to play the winner of the East, which could be us if MU wins next week.
It absolutely matters, especially to your dumb argument.
You’re too stupid to be in this conversation, go away.
Aaron, I’m interested in your counter argument to show me that the 7 conference teams we beat are good regardless of their 28-48 combined record, the fact that they are in 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th in the east and 5th and 7th in the west, and none have a winning record.
Rifle, if Stony Brooke played a full FBS schedule they would have a losing record. That’s why I exclude them.
JMU and Ohio are the only non-CUSA (Jacksonville, Liberty and Sam Houston) schools with 8 or more wins ranked below us in the Massey Composite. There are 30 teams with 8 or less wins ranked ahead of us. The 40’computers used in the average don’t think our SOS, SOR is impressive.
You’re better than this.
There are only eight non-CUSA G5 schools with 8 or more wins.
So what you’re saying is that Marshall has the 6th toughest schedule out of 8 that fits your criteria? Not much of an argument for you, especially since you have excluded an entire G5 conference from counting.
