As I predicted in a prior thread...people will be upset MU is winning currently and will proclaim, "DUUUURRRR GEORGIA SOUTHERN!!!"
That was over a month ago...just let it go.
fyi Charles Huff..
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As I predicted in a prior thread...people will be upset MU is winning currently and will proclaim, "DUUUURRRR GEORGIA SOUTHERN!!!"
That was over a month ago...just let it go.
Cool, glad we sacrificed a winnable Va Tech win to outsmart a school that had to spend a week on the road because of a major storm. Good job coach.
You're missing the point. Glad he took the blame after the Ga Southern debacle. He should have. Doesn't change the things he has said in the past or the way he's acted as head coach.
You're maybe one of the most infuriating posters on this board man.
I made the statement that he cost us a chance at being in the playoff conversation. You challenged it and I defended it, at which point instead of actually defending your position you just say "I predicted you guys wouldn't let it go! duuuuur".
I think it's great we've had a good season. If we lose Saturday that Ga Southern game is extremely important. And a D1 coach making the mistakes he made in that game can't happen. You can't have your team that unprepared to finish a game.
Then look at the Coastal game where we did everything we could to make that game close at the end.
He cost us 1-2 wins at the beginning of the season that are very important right now. We have won games sense, and that is great. I think he is a mediocre coach who doesn't want to be here. And when mediocre people try telling you they don't want to work for you anymore you should listen.
As I had said in previous threads...MU is in the Catbird Seat this season.
I wasn't going to predict Huff's record, instead I was going to say what would happen if he had a good record vs. a bad one.
Huff is at the end of his contract, correct?
If he does poorly, he isn't retained, plain and simple and MU doesn't have to spend any money to buy him out. MU wins because no money spent and a bad coach is gone.
If he does well, he elevated his stock for other programs to pay him, the more success, the easier it is to get out.
MU by default, would offer an extension because they should...knowing they'll lose the bidding war to a P4.
Huff walks, MU has a good record and possible SBC championship appearance, maybe win, AND is a lucrative spot for a new head coach.
MU wins because Huff's improved stock is benefitted by MU as well.
This season, so far, has been as good a scenario as you could get.
"DURRRRR GEORGIA SOUTHERN!!!"
Let it go...MU hasn't lost in over a month.
He took responsibility for the loss...and he's actually acting like a head coach, NOW, and has made enough decisions to keep MU winning...
But you're the one going back to his past and what he has said, as some sort of critique of what he is...NOW?!
Who's got the ego problem again.
Well, y'all keep making references back to said game.
An absolute meltdown in the 4th quarter?
Absolutely, I agree. Frustrated the hell out of me.
Did I question the ability of the team after it? No doubt.
Do I look back at that game and use it as a reason to not think Huff has been better and actually matured in some way?
Hell no.
Especially since he hasn't lost since and no doubt MU had some bad schemes out there, but what matters is MU scored more points than the other team in the end.
As another poster said, the defense was not good, but the offense and Special Teams made up for it. That's a decent balance of depth there...and even the defense did well by causing fumbles...they just didn't go our way. It happens. Let it go. MU won.
I'll take an ugly win all day over a good looking loss...especially given what was at stake.
😂😂😂😂 "My wife cheated on me for years and constantly said she wanted a divorce but got cold feet and has been faithful for a few months! I'm not going to live in the past! She's being a good wife now!"
I'm very happy we're winning games, I'm just saying guy wants to leave we should let him leave. He's cost us games this year, we will be fine with our next head coach.
Dude I just reference that he cost us 2 games and that lowered the ceiling for this season. You are the one who asked what two games so that I would bring up the ga southern game and you could go on this preplanned stupid tirade. I was simply saying he hurt what the ceiling of this season is. You cannot deny that. It's great to look forward and I am, I hope we will the Sun Belt and dominate in a bowl. But to say "oh well it happened in the past" when evaluating a coach is extremely stupid and you know that.
Va Tech was a winnable game. I don't know that Braxton gets it done but he gives us a better chance than Stone.
@OSU you're right, no QB we have was winning that game.
- Virginia Tech, which plays hapless Virginia this weekend, winner gets a bottom shelf bowl game, was certainly a winnable game.
- It is not just Georgia Southern, this guy has a history of blowing games we should have won.
- No P4 (and, side note, is it not time to retire that term, Boise State is going to get the 4th place spot, and the AAC champion will also be higher ranked than the champion of the joke "Big" 12) team is looking at CH. CH is trying to get a job at USM. USM is, at best a lateral move, actually a move down considering resources and the GIANT shadow USM plays in with two SEC teams in state.
- CH doesn't want to be here. Really that simple. He had a plan, which was parlay success at a solid G5 (G6?) program into a slot in the P4, or perhaps the AAC or MWC. Everybody has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth. He simply hasn't made it. His dreams of intergenerational wealth that one gets in the big time, simply won't happen for him. I didn't get picked for astronaut training. Same deal. Dreams often don't come true. So CH is APPLYING for a job at USM, and his fall back is reabsorption into the buddy-buddy system of career journeyman assistants.
- Doc is gone. Doc's record is Doc's record. His history, other than leaving behind what CH said was "not a rebuild" is irrelevant.
- But, if you want to go there, SOME posters here got on this whole CUSA hate, back in the day. MU was just supposed to win, every week, every week, every week. Somehow the other teams in CUSA were all beneath us. NOTHING that could ever happen would satisfy. The truth, of course, was everyone else had the same goal, similar resources, etc. This year is totally different. This is not just some haters hating on the SBC. This is a skillful and thoughtful analysis of the teams we have played, and how we really drew an easy path, which won't come around again for a while.
- But, if you want to go further, in ALL of the G5, it seems clear to me that there are programs that simply will realize that they like Icarus, have flown too close to the sun, and will move back down a level or drop football entirely. The weakness of SBC teams this year is part of the proof of that. Conferences are going to be in a flux before we settle out at about 120 or so total schools. Navigating that take a nimble and able AD. But we have CS. At least we won't run out of Pepsi.
- It is not just Georgia Southern, this guy has a history of blowing games we should have won.
- No P4 (and, side note, is it not time to retire that term, Boise State is going to get the 4th place spot, and the AAC champion will also be higher ranked than the champion of the joke "Big" 12) team is looking at CH. CH is trying to get a job at USM. USM is, at best a lateral move, actually a move down considering resources and the GIANT shadow USM plays in with two SEC teams in state.
- CH doesn't want to be here. Really that simple. He had a plan, which was parlay success at a solid G5 (G6?) program into a slot in the P4, or perhaps the AAC or MWC. Everybody has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth. He simply hasn't made it. His dreams of intergenerational wealth that one gets in the big time, simply won't happen for him. I didn't get picked for astronaut training. Same deal. Dreams often don't come true. So CH is APPLYING for a job at USM, and his fall back is reabsorption into the buddy-buddy system of career journeyman assistants.
- Doc is gone. Doc's record is Doc's record. His history, other than leaving behind what CH said was "not a rebuild" is irrelevant.
- But, if you want to go there, SOME posters here got on this whole CUSA hate, back in the day. MU was just supposed to win, every week, every week, every week. Somehow the other teams in CUSA were all beneath us. NOTHING that could ever happen would satisfy. The truth, of course, was everyone else had the same goal, similar resources, etc. This year is totally different. This is not just some haters hating on the SBC. This is a skillful and thoughtful analysis of the teams we have played, and how we really drew an easy path, which won't come around again for a while.
- But, if you want to go further, in ALL of the G5, it seems clear to me that there are programs that simply will realize that they like Icarus, have flown too close to the sun, and will move back down a level or drop football entirely. The weakness of SBC teams this year is part of the proof of that. Conferences are going to be in a flux before we settle out at about 120 or so total schools. Navigating that take a nimble and able AD. But we have CS. At least we won't run out of Pepsi.
Are you too dense to look in the mirror and realize that has been exactly you for the past 3.5 seasons?
from MSN.com on thoughts on who replaces Mack Brown....
That’s what’s playing out with the Marshall Thundering Herd. The athletic department is (for some unknown reason) at odds with Charles Huff, and it’s no secret that they want to fire him. However, they can’t do anything right now, as Huff has the Thundering Herd in position to make the Sun Belt Championship Game.
Huff is just 41 and can clinch a Sun Belt East title with a win this week. He has ties to the DMV area that North Carolina likes to recruit and has coached at multiple Power Four stops, all with great success.
his agent puts out some good stuff.
That’s what’s playing out with the Marshall Thundering Herd. The athletic department is (for some unknown reason) at odds with Charles Huff, and it’s no secret that they want to fire him. However, they can’t do anything right now, as Huff has the Thundering Herd in position to make the Sun Belt Championship Game.
Huff is just 41 and can clinch a Sun Belt East title with a win this week. He has ties to the DMV area that North Carolina likes to recruit and has coached at multiple Power Four stops, all with great success.
his agent puts out some good stuff.
For any non acronym folks, “DMV” refers to the confluence of the 3 states DELaware, MARyland & VirginiA. Hence DELMARVA
For the record I know for a fact he has turned down two extension of this season from BOG. Good riddance
No, moron, it doesn’t. DMV stands for DC/Maryland/Virginia.
Delaware has nothing to do with it. It’s strictly the greater DC metro, so not even all of Virginia and Maryland.
Why do you continue to do this to yourself, Chucky?
Isn't it really D.C., Virginia, and Maryland. Not too many recruits out of Delaware.
WHOOOOAAAA... This just in... SamC wants to be an astronaut and NASA has selected him for the next mission to a galaxy far, far away. I'm guessing that the plan is to launch his stupid a$$ into another galaxy and fend off any other intelligent life's desire to attack Earth. They wouldn't want anything to do with a planet that produced such an astounding a-hole.
I don't post much on HerdNation anymore because I don't feel like submitting myself to idiots like SamC, people who bash a coach who has done an outstanding job this year, people who don't know much about football or basketball that you couldn't learn in a "Football for Idiots" book, and products of an education system that has seriously regressed in its ability to teach people how to write. Rifle, for the record, I'm also over the "typos" and grammatically traumatic prose. I just wasted the better part of an hour reading this entire message board post, which is 60 minutes of my life that I will never be able to reclaim.
Back to SamC. Dude, what is up your a$$. You haven't typed a kind word to anyone on this message board in the better part of a decade. Although I have enjoyed reading Caliherd's eviscerations of your takes (sorry, that's a big word for you SamC - it means the act of removing internal organs from a body), it is well past the time for you to hang up the keyboard. You add no value to the message board, are condescending (sorry, another big word), inaccurate, and generally foul. For years you were so far up Doc's a$$ that if he stopped you'd be chomping on his kidneys. Now to pretend that your life isn't about Doc and about hating anyone who thinks negatively about him. Let's be honest, you're probably pining away in the basement of your house praying to the Doc shrine in hopes that he visit you to consummate your man crush (another big word, let's clap out the syllables there Quizbowl... con-sum-mate).
Finally, we are collectively looking forward to you joining Icarus and journeying too close to the sun... perhaps that will melt away all of your bitterness and bring you to enlightenment. I'm done now... see you all in basketball season!
muthed - you may be right in terms of a recruiting reference. I was thinking geography.
Like no coach in the history of football has ever cost a team the game...
Using your unfaithful wife as an example of football coaching is about as logical as your approach to the AD and how they should cut advertising but somehow can still make money.
No, moron. It has nothing to do with recruiting. “DMV” has always been DC/MD/VA and never included Delaware.
To clarify, you didn't. But also reading he is at odds with the AD...might be because of that.
Personally I'd be in my feelings too if my employer waited until the final year of my deal to offer an extension.
I have no idea what happened or when but IF Marshall didn't offer an extension until calendar year 2024 I'd probably be actively looking elsewhere.
No hard feelings just business. Not a good fit if you're looking for more security.
I have no idea what happened or when but IF Marshall didn't offer an extension until calendar year 2024 I'd probably be actively looking elsewhere.
No hard feelings just business. Not a good fit if you're looking for more security.
If Spears offered Huff an extension before the season, in order to keep him and give MU a big buyout if he did well and got hired elsewhere...
This board would have a meltdown and call for the firing of Spears at a record speed.
Do you know Spears didn’t? We have heard Huff has been offered extensions, maybe he has and maybe he hasn’t.
The DMV stands for District, Maryland and Virginia and generally refers to the DC Metropolitan Area. Baltimore is not considered in the DMV.
It's been reported he turned down an extension offer after the Va Tech game last year.
If he or his family don't want to be here, that's fine. Wish them well and on to the next coach.
Marshall will be playing football in 2025.
Once again, I’m sorry that the concept of market saturation is beyond your comprehension but I’m not getting into that with you again.
Coaches cost their teams the game yes, they don’t typically come out and say the fans ran off players, no one wants to live in the town the schools in and make other comments that are antagonistic toward the fanbase.
Cool we won some games this year. If he wants to except a short and cheap extension (prove it deal) then sure. But he doesn’t want to be here, so let him go.
