Get ready for the safety pin stabbing "revolution"
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Sure, bring it. The gun control advocates are going to start a revolution?
Ok, anytime now. Get started. Get busy.
Ok, anytime now. Get started. Get busy.
We need an education revolution so these morons can learn that we aren't a direct democracy and that the electoral college was set up so that everyone's vote counts not just those in the population centers
I'm obviously not a Trump fan, but the liberals backlash is so pathetic that I'm almost enjoying it.
I can understand that. I do have difficulty in how you can be more amused at the liberal backlash than what is getting ready to occupy the white House.
I'm not unconcerned about his presidency. But he's not president yet and this thread is about the liberal backlash so I commented on it. I didn't realize it was a contest between where I should show the most amusement.
the new Liberal rally cry is what he "might do" when in office...
meanwhile, we turn on the TV to any channel and witness in real-time their complete meltdown...
meanwhile, we turn on the TV to any channel and witness in real-time their complete meltdown...
All liberals:
"Yeah, i mean the market has already crumbl . . . What?!?! You mean stocks have risen?!?! Wait, wait, wait. You're telling me that Trump was elected and not only did the market NOT crash, it"s actually doing better?!?! Well f*ck. I mean, I was told it would mean the end of civilization as we know it. I'm not sure what the hell to believe now."
"Yeah, i mean the market has already crumbl . . . What?!?! You mean stocks have risen?!?! Wait, wait, wait. You're telling me that Trump was elected and not only did the market NOT crash, it"s actually doing better?!?! Well f*ck. I mean, I was told it would mean the end of civilization as we know it. I'm not sure what the hell to believe now."
"But, but, but . . . Lena Dunham!!! CNBC!!! Black Lives Matter!!!
I got nuthin' . . ."
I got nuthin' . . ."
Wait....is this the same type of prediction you made about Trump being elected having zero chance???
At the same time, the conservatives now smug about the EC would shit if they actually did their job as intended and came to the conclusion that Trump isn't fit for the office. I'd like to see that, and not because I don't like Trump; I'd just like to see the ultimate lesson on origional intent go down.
This is what it's all about. The only real change this will bring to my life. The ability now to turn on these TV channels and see the utopians shit their pants.
They'd have been doing that even if Hillary won. It's what they do. They're helpless and have been ever since they had their parents paying $50,000 a year for them to go major in tiddlywinks.
You missed the point of my post. The point isn't that he is unfit, the point is the Electoral College doesn't actually get together and debate the fitness of the winner. That was the idea behind actually having a body in each state that would meet and vote. Hamilton, Federalist #68. Now they just get together for a political party circle-jerk and then go out for drinks. The 29 states (plus DC) that have passed laws to penalize faithless electors have acted unconstitutionally, IMO. I'd like to see the whole damn shebang before the Supreme Court, because I am a big Original Intent guy.
The EC was set up when the average person didn't attend school past 6th grade, when news from NY took 3 months to reach North Carolina, and a few cities completely controlled commerce. With that said, it's still an outstanding system and the only real way that the varied interest across a broad nation can be properly represented.
People are much better informed and educated than they were 240 years ago, which eliminates two of the three main reasons you needed the EC, and means, if anything, the electors should be more tightly bound to the vote of their state than 240 years ago.
People are much better informed and educated than they were 240 years ago, which eliminates two of the three main reasons you needed the EC, and means, if anything, the electors should be more tightly bound to the vote of their state than 240 years ago.
In about every way imaginable. You can name any good quality for a president and he doesn't have it.
They are not going to vote him out. There is no reason to.
Plus they don't have a death wish. lol
Well ok. you just don't like him. that is not a reason. we have had some.dick heads be president before. that doesn't mean they are not qualified.
If Trump has done anything yet is he's broken the mold of how a politician can get elected. I've always said that those most qualified to be elected aren't electable. They have to be entrenched in the system, walk a narrow path of rhetoric, and beholden to political interests. Kind of like...well...Hillary. She represents everything I dislike about politics and her ilk is the reason I've become so detached and disallusioned.
Then along comes Trump...the unelectable...who gets elected. He certainly doesn't represent what I look for in a leader. He is a divider and not a uniter. His stance on global warming comes at a time where the world (including China) is kind of coming together on the issue. He has a history of disrespect toward women. I fear he might be too quick to use force abroad (although I like his stance in Isis). Quite frankly he scares me.
But if he's succeeded in any capacity is that he's broken the mold of what can be elected in this country. Maybe he paved the path for someone I can get behind down the road, but could never get elected. I can hope can I?
Then along comes Trump...the unelectable...who gets elected. He certainly doesn't represent what I look for in a leader. He is a divider and not a uniter. His stance on global warming comes at a time where the world (including China) is kind of coming together on the issue. He has a history of disrespect toward women. I fear he might be too quick to use force abroad (although I like his stance in Isis). Quite frankly he scares me.
But if he's succeeded in any capacity is that he's broken the mold of what can be elected in this country. Maybe he paved the path for someone I can get behind down the road, but could never get elected. I can hope can I?
Don't give up so easy. I know you tried to come up with a quality trump has that's desirable in a president. When you come up with one, let us know.
Which plan is that? The secret one he won't tell us about, or the one with more boots on the ground?
Agreed. Laws binding electors to the state vote are unconstitutional and penalties for not supporting those votes are also illegal.
Number of fatalities from terrorist attacks on u s soil under
bush 3,025
obama 159 ( as of July 17, 2016 )
Yeah, just not too much.
Just kidding. The greatest hope is not in a politician. I was prepared to go on living my way even with Hillary as president. I have done it with Obama as president.
I don't fit much into culture or anything, but I have found that you can turn off the TV and you've got the freedom to go your own way. I've got my gas guzzler. You can try to save the planet. That's what's great about America. We can coexist, though we go our separate ways.
9/11 caused everyone to focus on terrorism. Before that we all, dems, reps, and others, thought that was something that happened in other places. you really can't include those deaths in the number to compare apples to apples.
That's his tired old argument, a complete black hole. It's better to disengage and stay on topic.
Amen brother. Although I never took you for one of those "coexist" bumper sticker guys. But yea...I'm with you.
Oh yes we can include those deaths. They actually occurred under bush. If you want to play it your way, then obama has created more jobs than reagan as of January 2016, there have been no deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan under obama, and we subtract all national debt caused by the Great Recession in unemployment comp, stimulus, etc and subtract all debt created by the bush tax cuts, the 2 wars, and the unfunded medicare part D, etc.
And the rest of your post is total bullshit, too.
EDIT: The rest of your post is argumentative, stat vs. stat, in a social vacuum, in a transient type way (like Rutgers is a better team than OSU). That's fine, argue away. But you crossed a line when dismissing the deaths of American Soldiers. Sure, this site is all about grown men punching each other in the ribs all day long. I actually appreciate your view as much as I disagree with it. But if you're toeing some liberal line that won't acknowledge Americans giving their lives in combat, that's unacceptable. If that's the line you want to hold I have no respect for you at all.
EDIT: The rest of your post is argumentative, stat vs. stat, in a social vacuum, in a transient type way (like Rutgers is a better team than OSU). That's fine, argue away. But you crossed a line when dismissing the deaths of American Soldiers. Sure, this site is all about grown men punching each other in the ribs all day long. I actually appreciate your view as much as I disagree with it. But if you're toeing some liberal line that won't acknowledge Americans giving their lives in combat, that's unacceptable. If that's the line you want to hold I have no respect for you at all.
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