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Get ready for the safety pin stabbing "revolution"

Oh yes we can include those deaths. They actually occurred under bush. If you want to play it your way, then obama has created more jobs than reagan as of January 2016, there have been no deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan under obama, and we subtract all national debt caused by the Great Recession in unemployment comp, stimulus, etc and subtract all debt created by the bush tax cuts, the 2 wars, and the unfunded medicare part D, etc.

Well damn. FDR started WW2
 
Greed, that is bull shit. We just had two US Army soldiers killed this past week in Afghanistan alone.

Don't be so full of shi*. To write that is a disgrace.
 
This was from liberal Rolling Stone magazine in May of this year. The number is even higher now.

—2,499 U.S. soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq so far under President Obama, according to the independent Iraq Coalition Casualty Count.

—Of those, 1,906 have been killed in and around Afghanistan, and 593 in Iraq.

—Under Obama, the United States has been at war for 2,687 days. That's longer than under George W. Bush — or any other U.S. president, for that matter.
 
And the rest of your post is total bullshit, too.

EDIT: The rest of your post is argumentative, stat vs. stat, in a social vacuum, in a transient type way (like Rutgers is a better team than OSU). That's fine, argue away. But you crossed a line when dismissing the deaths of American Soldiers. Sure, this site is all about grown men punching each other in the ribs all day long. I actually appreciate your view as much as I disagree with it. But if you're toeing some liberal line that won't acknowledge Americans giving their lives in combat, that's unacceptable. If that's the line you want to hold I have no respect for you at all.

You need to re-read my post.
 
This was from liberal Rolling Stone magazine in May of this year. The number is even higher now.

—2,499 U.S. soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq so far under President Obama, according to the independent Iraq Coalition Casualty Count.

—Of those, 1,906 have been killed in and around Afghanistan, and 593 in Iraq.

—Under Obama, the United States has been at war for 2,687 days. That's longer than under George W. Bush — or any other U.S. president, for that matter.

For crying out loud.
 
And just FYI, in 2007 Army CoS General Shoomaker ordered the word Soldier be considered a proper noun, and always be capitalized.
 
You need to respect your context. Some things aren't just numbers or statistics.

Maybe I should spell it out for you. If you don't want to count the number of people killed on 911 during bush's presidency, then I get to choose to change the way things are tabulated for obamas presidency. Period.
 
9/11 happened under the Clinton budget, so his fault. Also his fault because his lack of response to attacks on U.S. soldiers by terrorist around the world emboldened them. The terrorist entered America and began their training while Clinton was President. Unfortunately, he didn't see the risk in terror attacks on our soil and never put the infrastructure in place to properly monitor and prevent it.
 
9/11 happened under the Clinton budget, so his fault. Also his fault because his lack of response to attacks on U.S. soldiers by terrorist around the world emboldened them. The terrorist entered America and began their training while Clinton was President. Unfortunately, he didn't see the risk in terror attacks on our soil and never put the infrastructure in place to properly monitor and prevent it.

So then you agree with my assessment.............obama has created more jobs than reagan as of January 2016, there have been no deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan under obama, and we subtract all national debt caused by the Great Recession in unemployment comp, stimulus, etc and subtract all debt created by the bush tax cuts, the 2 wars, and the unfunded medicare part D, etc.
 
Quit twisting numbers to fit your agenda. If's, and's and but's is a weak ass argument.
 
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Greed, the Wizard of Wayne, stop hiding behind the curtain.

Obama is out.. Hillary is out.

Donald Trump is president.
 
Do the spoiled brat liberal protesters think that if the EC were done away with they would have another election? Nope it would come under law in 4 years. Give the guy a chance. Hardest working president we have had in a long time.He has named two women to high positions. I would never do that. Dad said this country went to hell when women were allowed to smoke and vote. lol
 
Amen brother. Although I never took you for one of those "coexist" bumper sticker Hey Michael moore said when u sit down at thanksgiving dinner take a head count of those who were for trump and make a mental note of them. gee wiz this is getting creeping. Are trump supporters going to start getting picked off or maybe in 4 years when a lib president is elected they will come after those who were for trump. I am buying a gun legally and wearing it on my side. I will look over my own.
 
iN A BRAWL IT WOULD TAKE 14 OF THOSE NERDY PROTESTERS to take care of one trump man., Theyt have hugging places? Lib's going off to a desinated area to get a hug and be told everything is alright. Those people need to go back to work and get the hell off the streets before they get the hell knocked out of them. Trump will send in an all female army to clean up the streets. No men needed against that pathetic bunch. Those prortesters are not democrats. Democrats are working people
 
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Sisters...really....your revolution is in your head. Wearing a gun on your side? Come on man.
 
Quit twisting numbers to fit your agenda. If's, and's and but's is a weak ass argument.

You still don't get it. The reason I posted the statements that got into your head is because another poster didn't want to count the 911 deaths as a part of bush's legacy. Do you, or do you not understand that?
 
Do the spoiled brat liberal protesters think that if the EC were done away with they would have another election? Nope it would come under law in 4 years. Give the guy a chance. Hardest working president we have had in a long time.He has named two women to high positions. I would never do that. Dad said this country went to hell when women were allowed to smoke and vote. lol

Are you excited that trump has chosen Wilbur Ross, the owner of the Sago mine when 12 miners were killed for commerce secretary?
 
No I am not EG. i Worked for the same company. What people dont know is that us miners always know wwhen something is dangerous but if we could possibly work we did. They sent the guard from that job to prison because he tipped off the workers when a federal man was coming on the job. 32 years and it was like that on every job. We miners work when we shouldnt have, but bills have to be paid. I dont see how the protesters have enough money to just skip work. Well I kinda do, some are rich spoiled brats and some are paid. Its worse than when nixon was elected. EG i apologise for just posting something off wall to just agravate you. You really think trump is another hitler
 
Hell no GK. Listen I dont even own a gun and sure would never wear one. Im the last person wanting to get out in the street and be part of an revolution. You better understand what those protesters think of people who voted for trump. Just like the good germans who went against Hitler. They could never have protested in the street without geting squashed. Well in america they can disquise a protest as nothing more than a stiring up some kind of trouble or revolution as you call it. They are far ahead of the good germans that were on to hitler in the early 30's at this point. Protesters see themselves as good germans who wont allow our version of hitler to ever take root or take over office. If they over turned this election back to Hillary it wouldnt affect me the least. Its not us boys its rest of this country that is screwed up. We just need work for people here. Hillary bragged on getting rid of coal miners. What if later it is found out that coal wasnt affecting the climate change like they thought. Boy oh boy oh boy did obama wreck west virginia
 
Hell no GK. Listen I dont even own a gun and sure would never wear one.

I guess I got confused when you said this above...

"I am buying a gun legally and wearing it on my side. I will look over my own."
 
Is that not his right in our society? So why judge

I have no problem with him buying a gun or wearing it. My original comment was referring to his believing that he suddenly needs to do so. The revolution he's arming himself for is in his head.

And then he says he'd never buy a gun or wear one but several comments before said just the opposite.
 
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No extra, I was just pointing out that every President carries baggage from the previous administration. You only want to acknowledge that fact when a dem follows a Republican. You know, like how you completely ignore that the market crash/bubble popped before Bush took office (i.e. The whole Clinton surplus was built on a false economy of dark fiber).
 
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Don't give up so easy. I know you tried to come up with a quality trump has that's desirable in a president. When you come up with one, let us know.

Unlike our current President, Trump has experience actually being in charge of something before assuming leadership of the free world.

Does that count ?
 
No extra, I was just pointing out that every President carries baggage from the previous administration. You only want to acknowledge that fact when a dem follows a Republican. You know, like how you completely ignore that the market crash/bubble popped before Bush took office (i.e. The whole Clinton surplus was built on a false economy of dark fiber).

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Not even comparable.
 
Unlike our current President, Trump has experience actually being in charge of something before assuming leadership of the free world.

Does that count ?

Yeah, he was in charge of his dad's wealth that he inherited. Fail.
 
No I am not EG. i Worked for the same company. What people dont know is that us miners always know wwhen something is dangerous but if we could possibly work we did. They sent the guard from that job to prison because he tipped off the workers when a federal man was coming on the job. 32 years and it was like that on every job. We miners work when we shouldnt have, but bills have to be paid. I dont see how the protesters have enough money to just skip work. Well I kinda do, some are rich spoiled brats and some are paid. Its worse than when nixon was elected. EG i apologise for just posting something off wall to just agravate you. You really think trump is another hitler

That's what happens when you work for nonunion companies.
 
Yeah, he was in charge of his dad's wealth that he inherited. Fail.

I never claimed he was a rags -to-riches story. I stated he has been in charge of something. And he's been running multi-million and billion dollar businesses for 40+ years. Fail.
 
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I never claimed he was a rags -to-riches story. I stated he has been in charge of something. And he's been running multi-million and billion dollar businessesfor 40+ years. Fail.

Give an individual 200 million and a lot of them can run large companies. Fail.
 
Give an individual 200 million and a lot of them can run large companies. Fail.

Your argument was that Trump did not possess a single trait desirable for an incoming president. I pointed out he has years and years of high level leadership experience. /discussion

Whether or not many other people could have accomplished what Trump has given the same situation is immaterial to your original assertion.
 
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If I had 200 million, there would be no large company. I'd sit on it, never use it, and whatever economic stimulation it could give would just have to wait until I kick the bucket.
 
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