Gibson presser - reactions & hot takes

[W-S HerdFan]

Really impressed. He’s not flashy and speaks in a down to earth fashion. One thing I think I caught in the Q&A was that we aren’t giving up on getting some of our players back out of the portal. Said people make emotional decisions in an uncertain situation. He had a team meeting this past Monday, and has spoken with each member of the team. He was asked about recruiting in state talent. He said if they’re good enough to help us win the conference and get us into the playoffs, he wants them. But, it can’t just be that they’re local products. He jokingly thanked Chris Spears for scheduling Georgia as his first game as HC. He spoke about the 75. Said “We are because they were.” At the end recognized Coach Pruett. Said they had a 62 minute phone call and Bob talked for 59 1/2!
Said he has all but one of his new staff lined up.
p.s. He is going to be involved with prep for the bowl game, doing what he can to help us get ready.

 

[raleighherdfan]

He also promised he isn't going anywhere. "Bought his last house..."

The #1 job prerequisite at Marshall.

That alone has many MU fans creaming in their pants.

 

[W-S HerdFan]

He also promised he isn't going anywhere. "Bought his last house..."

The #1 job prerequisite at Marshall.

That alone has many MU fans creaming in their pants.

Yeah ……Victor’s Cleaners about to get bizee! 😂

 

[Herdguy04]

He also promised he isn't going anywhere. "Bought his last house..."

The #1 job prerequisite at Marshall.

That alone has many MU fans creaming in their pants.

It's funny because MU (and wvu to a lesser degree) have seen what real life looks like...so they hire Gibson. Alright, he may do well, I hope so, but it seems like they took the local guy because they don't want to keep routinely being reminded of how little they matter in the world.

Guess MU would rather not be a stepping stone, despite all the fans accepting that's exactly what MU is, and it being the model for success (see 2024 SBC Champions, Marshall)...in exchange for someone who (as MU fans have constantly complained about) has never been a HC, coming from a P5 program, essentially downgrading his reach, budget, and resources in general...all the stuff they tried to distance themselves from.

But gee golly darn he's from WV!!! The Good 'ole Boy Network is back online!!!

 

[Herdguy04]

He was asked about recruiting in state talent. He said if they’re good enough to help us win the conference and get us into the playoffs, he wants them. But, it can’t just be that they’re local products.

This clearly wasn't the same strategy MU took when hiring the next HC...
This was exactly because he's local...but just because he is, doesn't mean he will be any good.

 

[W-S HerdFan]

This clearly wasn't the same strategy MU took when hiring the next HC...
This was exactly because he's local...but just because he is, doesn't mean he will be any good.

04 - you’re implying the only reason we hired Gibson is that he’s a local?

 

[redsfan5590]

It's funny because MU (and wvu to a lesser degree) have seen what real life looks like...so they hire Gibson. Alright, he may do well, I hope so, but it seems like they took the local guy because they don't want to keep routinely being reminded of how little they matter in the world.

Guess MU would rather not be a stepping stone, despite all the fans accepting that's exactly what MU is, and it being the model for success (see 2024 SBC Champions, Marshall)...in exchange for someone who (as MU fans have constantly complained about) has never been a HC, coming from a P5 program, essentially downgrading his reach, budget, and resources in general...all the stuff they tried to distance themselves from.

But gee golly darn he's from WV!!! The Good 'ole Boy Network is back online!!!

The last coach we had that wasn't a stepping stone, how many conference championships did he win? Same amount? How many times did he have us ranked? More than Huff? If the 12 team playoff had existed in 2014, would we have been one play from a playoff berth?

I understand what you're saying, and it's one reason I liked the Huff hire initially. I'm not even saying you're wrong. But I think you are discounting the Doc years. At the end it was rough... but he had some highs too. That 2014 year was special. Just like 2024 was special. The problem with a stepping stone candidate is that after their special season they're always going to leave.

 

[herdftblfan]

I don't know about you folks but when I talk about Marshall, I say "we" when referencing the University and the athletic programs. When I read or hear a "fan" speak in terms of "they," I always take notice.

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

I am more concerned about the staff he will build. We need a very strong staff on the offensive side of the ball, whether they are a Marshall, WV native, or not. He needs a home run right out of the gate. I like his passion. Hope he can keep us respectable in 25 and blow through the SB in the years after. Welcome Coach and family!

 

[TwolfHerdfan]

It's funny because MU (and wvu to a lesser degree) have seen what real life looks like...so they hire Gibson. Alright, he may do well, I hope so, but it seems like they took the local guy because they don't want to keep routinely being reminded of how little they matter in the world.

Guess MU would rather not be a stepping stone, despite all the fans accepting that's exactly what MU is, and it being the model for success (see 2024 SBC Champions, Marshall)...in exchange for someone who (as MU fans have constantly complained about) has never been a HC, coming from a P5 program, essentially downgrading his reach, budget, and resources in general...all the stuff they tried to distance themselves from.

But gee golly darn he's from WV!!! The Good 'ole Boy Network is back online!!!

Do you by chance know Nicholas Freidin?

 

[MUMAN3419]

I am more concerned about the staff he will build. We need a very strong staff on the offensive side of the ball, whether they are a Marshall, WV native, or not. He needs a home run right out of the gate. I like his passion. Hope he can keep us respectable in 25 and blow through the SB in the years after. Welcome Coach and family!

When he said he was going to hire WV guys it gave me anxiety about Legg. Lol

 

[The Real SamC]

If MU is a "stepping stone" then we are not very good at it, considering the last coach to leave here for a step up job left in 1995.

This fan base is already fractured.

On one side are the anti Gibson losers. Divided into several factions. The WVU haters, who, egged on by Dickrod being back in the Land of Spam, will hate on Coach (who went to Glenville State, BTW) for his past associations with WV's junior university. And supporters of the cabal. The cabal who went around the AD and hired the bozo CH, a person who the current AD said "was looking for a new job when I got here", a guy who, properly vetted by an actual AD, would have never been hired, and these cabal supporters won't ADMIT THEY WERE WRONG. And those with WV inferiority complex. He is actually from WV, how can he possibly be any good. Lets get us some smart flatlander.

On the other side are the Marshall fans. We understand what a rebuilding job Coach has been given, handicapped by the perception that .600 actually accomplished something on his way out the door other than dodge all the good teams, and we support him 100%.

 

[Marshall2004]

When he said he was going to hire WV guys it gave me anxiety about Legg. Lol

YOU THINK HE'S GONE?!? HE'S NEVER GONE!!!

 

[ru4_mu2]

When he said he was going to hire WV guys it gave me anxiety about Legg. Lol

As long as he's not the OC, I'd be ok with it. Legg's a good coach, just not a good OC, IMO. I wouldn't be surprised to see him hired either here or wvu as a position coach.

 

[Herdguy04]

The last coach we had that wasn't a stepping stone, how many conference championships did he win? Same amount? How many times did he have us ranked? More than Huff? If the 12 team playoff had existed in 2014, would we have been one play from a playoff berth?

I understand what you're saying, and it's one reason I liked the Huff hire initially. I'm not even saying you're wrong. But I think you are discounting the Doc years. At the end it was rough... but he had some highs too. That 2014 year was special. Just like 2024 was special. The problem with a stepping stone candidate is that after their special season they're always going to leave.

What do you want? Do you want consistency in someone staying long term...alright, it'll be about 3-4 years you make the conference title game...but you know your HC won't leave if you do win it?
Or
Constantly rolling the dice to HOPE you get consistency before you make the conference title game and HOPE the HC doesn't leave before then?

Seems to me, having a long term HC may not net you the large number of titles you expect, but you likely won't have damn near the ENTIRE team leaving when he does.

 

[Herdguy04]

If MU is a "stepping stone" then we are not very good at it, considering the last coach to leave here for a step up job left in 1995.

This fan base is already fractured.

On one side are the anti Gibson losers. Divided into several factions. The WVU haters, who, egged on by Dickrod being back in the Land of Spam, will hate on Coach (who went to Glenville State, BTW) for his past associations with WV's junior university. And supporters of the cabal. The cabal who went around the AD and hired the bozo CH, a person who the current AD said "was looking for a new job when I got here", a guy who, properly vetted by an actual AD, would have never been hired, and these cabal supporters won't ADMIT THEY WERE WRONG. And those with WV inferiority complex. He is actually from WV, how can he possibly be any good. Lets get us some smart flatlander.

On the other side are the Marshall fans. We understand what a rebuilding job Coach has been given, handicapped by the perception that .600 actually accomplished something on his way out the door other than dodge all the good teams, and we support him 100%.

Post the baseball schedule.

Thanks.

 

[Herdguy04]

04 - you’re implying the only reason we hired Gibson is that he’s a local?

Not the only reason, but a big reason.

Considering he's exactly what MU fans wanted to avoid when Doc wasn't retained...and during their grumblings with Huff...
"He's never been a HC."
"I'm sick of coordinators being hired, MU needs to go to a lower level program to get a quality guy."
"Stop going local, we need to think outside the box."

How many of those are Gibson?

Now, he may work out and sounds like he really wants to be at MU...but wanting to be somewhere and being good at your job aren't the same thing...and it makes me wonder if MU is going to pull the plug on him if he should not be successful or not...because they don't want to have to hire a guy who's interviewing the week after he's started.

 

[W-S HerdFan]

Pardon me for asking (R.I.P. Ernie S!), but if we were to fire him before his contract is up, would we not owe him the balance?

 

[redsfan5590]

What do you want? Do you want consistency in someone staying long term...alright, it'll be about 3-4 years you make the conference title game...but you know your HC won't leave if you do win it?
Or
Constantly rolling the dice to HOPE you get consistency before you make the conference title game and HOPE the HC doesn't leave before then?

Seems to me, having a long term HC may not net you the large number of titles you expect, but you likely won't have damn near the ENTIRE team leaving when he does.

Yeah I'd agree with your sentiment there at the end. I honestly think both types of coaches will have similar results. Snyder is the one coach we can look at in recent Herd History and say "he was an abject failure". If we can avoid that, I think we are fine. And I have no concerns at this point we are headed that way.

 

[redsfan5590]

Pardon me for asking (R.I.P. Ernie S!), but if we were to fire him before his contract is up, would we not owe him the balance?

Yes, at least that is how Spears put it. He said we like to guarantee our contracts on both sides. We pay you what you sign for no matter what, if you leave for another job before the end of the deal you pay us. Seemed that was a sticking point for Huff because it made him somewhat less attractive to P4's. Although, it seems to be a fairly common practice for small schools.

 

[marshallsig]

It's funny because MU (and wvu to a lesser degree) have seen what real life looks like...so they hire Gibson. Alright, he may do well, I hope so, but it seems like they took the local guy because they don't want to keep routinely being reminded of how little they matter in the world.

Guess MU would rather not be a stepping stone, despite all the fans accepting that's exactly what MU is, and it being the model for success (see 2024 SBC Champions, Marshall)...in exchange for someone who (as MU fans have constantly complained about) has never been a HC, coming from a P5 program, essentially downgrading his reach, budget, and resources in general...all the stuff they tried to distance themselves from.

But gee golly darn he's from WV!!! The Good 'ole Boy Network is back online!!!

You do get that Huff was not a HC coming in either. That Gibson’s coaching resume is stronger than Huffs when he started.

 

[raleighherdfan]

If MU is a "stepping stone" then we are not very good at it, considering the last coach to leave here for a step up job left in 1995.

This fan base is already fractured.

On one side are the anti Gibson losers. Divided into several factions. The WVU haters, who, egged on by Dickrod being back in the Land of Spam, will hate on Coach (who went to Glenville State, BTW) for his past associations with WV's junior university. And supporters of the cabal. The cabal who went around the AD and hired the bozo CH, a person who the current AD said "was looking for a new job when I got here", a guy who, properly vetted by an actual AD, would have never been hired, and these cabal supporters won't ADMIT THEY WERE WRONG. And those with WV inferiority complex. He is actually from WV, how can he possibly be any good. Lets get us some smart flatlander.

On the other side are the Marshall fans. We understand what a rebuilding job Coach has been given, handicapped by the perception that .600 actually accomplished something on his way out the door other than dodge all the good teams, and we support him 100%.

 

[Herd Insider]

Gibby is 53 and a defensive coordinator. The last time we hired a 53-year old defensive coordinator, things didn’t turn out too bad. Have faith. Go Herd!

 

[YouHerdMe]

When he said he was going to hire WV guys it gave me anxiety about Legg. Lol

Ssshhhhh, don't speak that name or you'll summon him.

 

[Herdguy04]

You do get that Huff was not a HC coming in either. That Gibson’s coaching resume is stronger than Huffs when he started.

I am aware...it's what people complained about when Huff would lose a game.

 

[caliherd]

The last coach we had that wasn't a stepping stone, how many conference championships did he win? Same amount? How many times did he have us ranked? More than Huff? If the 12 team playoff had existed in 2014, would we have been one play from a playoff berth?

I understand what you're saying, and it's one reason I liked the Huff hire initially. I'm not even saying you're wrong. But I think you are discounting the Doc years. At the end it was rough... but he had some highs too. That 2014 year was special. Just like 2024 was special. The problem with a stepping stone candidate is that after their special season they're always going to leave.

I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news but if Gibson wins the conference a couple of times he will be gone too. The only reason Doc stayed 11 was NOT due to him not using Marshall as a steppingstone but was due to nobody pursuing him. Marshall will never be a destination school when it comes to football or basketball.

My biggest issue that I have with Coach Huff is how he behaved during his time after his accepting the Southern Miss job and after he left. But I don’t care that he didn’t love wv or Huntington. I don’t care that he was looking to get out of Huntington the minute he got here. He put together some good teams, beat Va Tech beat Notre Dame and won a conference championship his 4th season. So obviously his lack of commitment to Marshall did not affect him coaching the team.

Honestly I hate the whole I’ll be here forever press conference only to be followed up a couple of years later with the uh forget what I said. I’m fully aware of Marshalls place in the football coaching hierarchy but I’m totally content with a coach coming in winning some Sunbelt championships and then getting another job somewhere else. I understand it’s the way it works when you are a Marshall.

 

[Herdguy04]

I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news but if Gibson wins the conference a couple of times he will be gone too. The only reason Doc stayed 11 was NOT due to him not using Marshall as a steppingstone but was due to nobody pursuing him. Marshall will never be a destination school when it comes to football or basketball.

My biggest issue that I have with Coach Huff is how he behaved during his time after his accepting the Southern Miss job and after he left. But I don’t care that he didn’t love wv or Huntington. I don’t care that he was looking to get out of Huntington the minute he got here. He put together some good teams, beat Va Tech beat Notre Dame and won a conference championship his 4th season. So obviously his lack of commitment to Marshall did not affect him coaching the team.

Honestly I hate the whole I’ll be here forever press conference only to be followed up a couple of years later with the uh forget what I said. I’m fully aware of Marshalls place in the football coaching hierarchy but I’m totally content with a coach coming in winning some Sunbelt championships and then getting another job somewhere else. I understand it’s the way it works when you are a Marshall.

Funny you say that last part because that's what everyone else wanted too...
Then they got it...
...and now they're whining about it.

I agree that Gibson likely won't be around for long if he has any sort of success, maybe he will reject a program or two but real money talks...and the fans will be mad and if they're anything like they were with Coach Caldwell, they'll grumble and say "the conference he's going to is too tough for him to win in."

But I give Huff credit with his actions when going to Southern Miss...when was the last time anyone really cared about them? MU fans are gonna come to the game when USM heads to Huntington...and they're gonna be PISSED.

Reminds me of the Donnie Jones debacle and how crazy the MU fans were for the first game in Huntington.

 

[redsfan5590]

Funny you say that last part because that's what everyone else wanted too...
Then they got it...
...and now they're whining about it.

I agree that Gibson likely won't be around for long if he has any sort of success, maybe he will reject a program or two but real money talks...and the fans will be mad and if they're anything like they were with Coach Caldwell, they'll grumble and say "the conference he's going to is too tough for him to win in."

But I give Huff credit with his actions when going to Southern Miss...when was the last time anyone really cared about them? MU fans are gonna come to the game when USM heads to Huntington...and they're gonna be PISSED.

Reminds me of the Donnie Jones debacle and how crazy the MU fans were for the first game in Huntington.

I've got no problem with a coach leaving for greener pastures. And of course Marshall isn't a destination. That's fine as well.

But it isn't too much to strive for a coach that 1) while he's here seems to like it. 2) when he leaves the whole thing doesn't crumble at our feet so that we are a national story.

 

[Rock98Dog]

I guess I view things differently. I could have moved a bunch of times over my career and made a lot more money, but money was never my primary motivator.

If a coach stays here for 15 years he will make well over $20 million, probably close to $30 if salaries keep going up. If you’re winning enough to keep your job for 15 years here you become a local hero ala Bobby Pruett. It’s more money than you can rationally spend for the rest of your life and you have millions in the bank when you die. You avoid the potential pitfalls of bad career choices that cost you stability and even more moves.

The question becomes not how much you can make but how much do you want to leave behind. Coaches don’t spend money, they work all the time. They typically use their extra money to make stupid investments and lose it anyway.

 

[redsfan5590]

I guess I view things differently. I could have moved a bunch of times over my career and made a lot more money, but money was never my primary motivator.

If a coach stays here for 15 years he will make well over $20 million, probably close to $30 if salaries keep going up. If you’re winning enough to keep your job for 15 years here you become a local hero ala Bobby Pruett. It’s more money than you can rationally spend for the rest of your life and you have millions in the bank when you die. You avoid the potential pitfalls of bad career choices that cost you stability and even more moves.

The question becomes not how much you can make but how much do you want to leave behind. Coaches don’t spend money, they work all the time. They typically use their extra money to make stupid investments and lose it anyway.

Most people simply aren't going to view the world that way and that's ok. But there is a big difference between that mindset and setting fire to the program on the way out the door

 

[Herdguy04]

I've got no problem with a coach leaving for greener pastures. And of course Marshall isn't a destination. That's fine as well.

But it isn't too much to strive for a coach that 1) while he's here seems to like it. 2) when he leaves the whole thing doesn't crumble at our feet so that we are a national story.

Respectfully, I feel you contradicted yourself in this post.

You claim that you don't care if a coach leaves and admit that MU isn't a destination school for the majority of HC's.
But you're also upset that a HC leaves because he doesn't like it here...or at least pursues other jobs...which is what literally all G5 coaches are doing.

You're fine with a HC leaving but don't want him to do what he needs to do, in order to leave.

It's like if he didn't kiss the feet of all the fans and thank them personally with a $100.00 check (you all would complain it isn't cash), and see how blessed he was for being given the HC job, his departure is awful and he sucks.

One more thing, about crumbling the program...
I have said this since Huff got to MU...this is the roll of the dice you're going to experience. The G5 programs are a literal House of Cards...remember how quickly to Hell, things went for WKU when Brohm left? Or even Southern Miss when Fedora left. WMU, how long has it been since they were relevant after "Row the Boat" or whatever. NIU? Hawai'i? Memphis and UCF were stable because they kept their coaches and reloaded quickly. But that was prior to NIL.
But all that's really there, is Boise...and they're just as fragile.

 

[redsfan5590]

Respectfully, I feel you contradicted yourself in this post.

You claim that you don't care if a coach leaves and admit that MU isn't a destination school for the majority of HC's.
But you're also upset that a HC leaves because he doesn't like it here...or at least pursues other jobs...which is what literally all G5 coaches are doing.

You're fine with a HC leaving but don't want him to do what he needs to do, in order to leave.

It's like if he didn't kiss the feet of all the fans and thank them personally with a $100.00 check (you all would complain it isn't cash), and see how blessed he was for being given the HC job, his departure is awful and he sucks.

One more thing, about crumbling the program...
I have said this since Huff got to MU...this is the roll of the dice you're going to experience. The G5 programs are a literal House of Cards...remember how quickly to Hell, things went for WKU when Brohm left? Or even Southern Miss when Fedora left. WMU, how long has it been since they were relevant after "Row the Boat" or whatever. NIU? Hawai'i? Memphis and UCF were stable because they kept their coaches and reloaded quickly. But that was prior to NIL.
But all that's really there, is Boise...and they're just as fragile.

Dude, you say "it's like he didn't kiss the feet of all the fans and thank them personally" if you are this far removed from reality I don't know what to tell you. This was a unique situation. This guy said some things in the media that as a coach you do not say. This guy was interviewing every year as many chances as he could. These are things that coaches don't do. I'm not saying your coach never flirts with a bigger program but to every chance (from the beginning) try and leave, and then blame fans for a kid transferring... that's not how a HC should act. This isn't hard, it just takes you stepping back for one second and trying to listen to someone other than Raleigh... Charles Huff was a unique case. He interviewed for other jobs the second he was on campus. He had no motivation to build Marshall into a strong program because the second he was offered a job he would have bolted. He blamed fans for Fancher. THen "apologized" by basically confirming he felt like the fans were horrible to Fancher. He brought in guys and won a championship in his last gasp to get out of dodge. And then ended up making a lateral (at best move). He isn't the type of coach we want to replicate.

 

[Herdguy04]

Dude, you say "it's like he didn't kiss the feet of all the fans and thank them personally" if you are this far removed from reality I don't know what to tell you. This was a unique situation. This guy said some things in the media that as a coach you do not say. This guy was interviewing every year as many chances as he could. These are things that coaches don't do. I'm not saying your coach never flirts with a bigger program but to every chance (from the beginning) try and leave, and then blame fans for a kid transferring... that's not how a HC should act. This isn't hard, it just takes you stepping back for one second and trying to listen to someone other than Raleigh... Charles Huff was a unique case. He interviewed for other jobs the second he was on campus. He had no motivation to build Marshall into a strong program because the second he was offered a job he would have bolted. He blamed fans for Fancher. THen "apologized" by basically confirming he felt like the fans were horrible to Fancher. He brought in guys and won a championship in his last gasp to get out of dodge. And then ended up making a lateral (at best move). He isn't the type of coach we want to replicate.

The biggest complaints about people leaving or transferring or simply opting out of the bowl games, prior to NIL and the portal were, "he's abandoning his team. F-'em! Let 'em go. He didn't appreciate the chance we gave him."
While Huff is a "unique" situation...anyone who leaves, the fans simply can't let them go...they have to backhand compliment them, or follow their careers as a means to point out how bad they are so "See?! I am right!"
Some fans just simply want to be right so much they'll bring up players who left and haven't looked back.

If Huff left clean and clear to USM, everyone would find ways to say how bad of a mistake it was and how MU is better.
Or, if he left elsewhere, that the conference they're going to, is far superior to their coaching abilities and they'll likely fail.

No matter what, a HC simply can't leave without you complaining about it...despite it being the exact thing you expect to happen.
Despite Huff being a exception, it's still not much further from what you'll expect in the future. People are not at Marshall for anything beyond making themselves better.

As I have said, get the right HC for that, MU will be better because said HC wants to win and look as good as he can, MU is the current SBC champion.

MU has, essentially, a new coaching staff and team...yet "Huff!!!!"

 

[redsfan5590]

The biggest complaints about people leaving or transferring or simply opting out of the bowl games, prior to NIL and the portal were, "he's abandoning his team. F-'em! Let 'em go. He didn't appreciate the chance we gave him."
While Huff is a "unique" situation...anyone who leaves, the fans simply can't let them go...they have to backhand compliment them, or follow their careers as a means to point out how bad they are so "See?! I am right!"
Some fans just simply want to be right so much they'll bring up players who left and haven't looked back.

If Huff left clean and clear to USM, everyone would find ways to say how bad of a mistake it was and how MU is better.
Or, if he left elsewhere, that the conference they're going to, is far superior to their coaching abilities and they'll likely fail.

No matter what, a HC simply can't leave without you complaining about it...despite it being the exact thing you expect to happen.
Despite Huff being a exception, it's still not much further from what you'll expect in the future. People are not at Marshall for anything beyond making themselves better.

As I have said, get the right HC for that, MU will be better because said HC wants to win and look as good as he can, MU is the current SBC champion.

MU has, essentially, a new coaching staff and team...yet "Huff!!!!"

You are the king of your hypothetical world. The problem is its all bull crap.
You mention players transferring. I haven't seen any negative comments (outside of the fringe) about players who left. In fact, in the past I've seen quite the opposite. I remember watching quite a few Iowa State games with my friends because De'andre Kane transferred there. When Marshall players transfer elsewhere I think most people are wishing them luck. When Donovan went elsewhere there were always positive vibes because he had gotten his start here.

Huff acted the way that he did and fans did not like it. I don't think there are many programs in America where you would have fans that would be ok with his words/actions and the way he left. The only ones I can think of are programs like USM where I quote "we'd be thrilled with 7 wins!"

 

[Herdguy04]

You are the king of your hypothetical world. The problem is its all bull crap.
You mention players transferring. I haven't seen any negative comments (outside of the fringe) about players who left. In fact, in the past I've seen quite the opposite. I remember watching quite a few Iowa State games with my friends because De'andre Kane transferred there. When Marshall players transfer elsewhere I think most people are wishing them luck. When Donovan went elsewhere there were always positive vibes because he had gotten his start here.

Huff acted the way that he did and fans did not like it. I don't think there are many programs in America where you would have fans that would be ok with his words/actions and the way he left. The only ones I can think of are programs like USM where I quote "we'd be thrilled with 7 wins!"

So you named two guys going back to the 90's as a means of positive fan well wishes?
Plenty of athletes get crapped on when elderly, unathletic old men on online forums say they won't make it to the next level.
Then get mad when said player doesn't appreciate Marshall when he does.

As for Huff? Well, frankly, the fans need some accountability every now and then. Athletes take crap from fans daily.
"Oh, grow some thicker skin, kid!"
Of course this is the same fan base with people who complain about bathrooms, bleacher stains, and field goal post paint.
The same thin skinned fans who get mad at advertisements playing so often.

Nick Saban was basically referring to you:

Nick Saban Calls Out 'Self-Absorbed' Alabama Fans: 'Have Some Gratitude'

During his weekly live stream show, Saban went on a rant after being asked a question about why Alabama doesn't win games by bigger margins.

www.si.com

You fools tend to forget, you're getting everyone else's best games...especially if you're the one winning all the time.

 

[redsfan5590]

So you named two guys going back to the 90's as a means of positive fan well wishes?
Plenty of athletes get crapped on when elderly, unathletic old men on online forums say they won't make it to the next level.
Then get mad when said player doesn't appreciate Marshall when he does.

As for Huff? Well, frankly, the fans need some accountability every now and then. Athletes take crap from fans daily.
"Oh, grow some thicker skin, kid!"
Of course this is the same fan base with people who complain about bathrooms, bleacher stains, and field goal post paint.
The same thin skinned fans who get mad at advertisements playing so often.

Nick Saban was basically referring to you:

Nick Saban Calls Out 'Self-Absorbed' Alabama Fans: 'Have Some Gratitude'

During his weekly live stream show, Saban went on a rant after being asked a question about why Alabama doesn't win games by bigger margins.

www.si.com

You fools tend to forget, you're getting everyone else's best games...especially if you're the one winning all the time.

My brother… DeAndre Kane played here from 2010-2013. 😂 the 90’s 😂

Sure, every fanbase has the old guys that complain about a kid transferring. Nothing you can do about that.

As for Huff, yeah that’s total garbage. That’s not how this works. If fans had done something truly horrific then sure, say something about it and then be with a positive message. To say what he said, when he said it… total garbage. Sorry you can’t see that.


Lastly, you keep bringing up the goal posts, ads, blood stained bleachers as if it’s some magic bullet. Those things were brought up at different times in threads about improving our experience. I’m sorry you think things at Marshall are perfect and can’t get any better. I’m sorry it hurt you so much that it clearly lives rent free in your head that someone could mention the idea of upgrading the bathrooms. I hope you find a safe place soon. But until you do stop gatekeeping the fans and then wonder why we don’t have more support for the program.

 

[Herdguy04]

When Donovan went elsewhere there were always positive vibes because he had gotten his start here.

Billy Donovan (who is presumed you're referring to) was here from 1994-1996.

My brother… DeAndre Kane played here from 2010-2013. 😂 the 90’s 😂

My brother...with an IEP and one room classroom, just stop.

 

[Herdguy04]

Sure, every fanbase has the old guys that complain about a kid transferring. Nothing you can do about that.

As for Huff, yeah that’s total garbage. That’s not how this works. If fans had done something truly horrific then sure, say something about it and then be with a positive message. To say what he said, when he said it… total garbage. Sorry you can’t see that.


Lastly, you keep bringing up the goal posts, ads, blood stained bleachers as if it’s some magic bullet. Those things were brought up at different times in threads about improving our experience. I’m sorry you think things at Marshall are perfect and can’t get any better. I’m sorry it hurt you so much that it clearly lives rent free in your head that someone could mention the idea of upgrading the bathrooms. I hope you find a safe place soon. But until you do stop gatekeeping the fans and then wonder why we don’t have more support for the program.

So, you admit fanbases do complain about people leaving...including ours...shocker.

Might be total garbage but once more, fans think they're invincible and can't be called out. Even the best HC in football called them out. Garbage goes both ways, fans have been pretty garbage themselves towards players.

I bring it up because you literally bring it up whenever you go elsewhere as a means of putting down Marshall.
Your ideas for improvement, especially funding, have been laughed at as horrendously inefficient and a worsening then situation.
Thing is, if the MU AD spent any money on it, you'd still complain...and if MU lost a football game, someone would bring up the money for a decent coordinator (whichever side underperformed for the loss) was wasted on bathrooms.

 

[redsfan5590]

Billy Donovan (who is presumed you're referring to) was here from 1994-1996.

My brother...with an IEP and one room classroom, just stop.

Yep, Donovan was here in the 90's. You said that I used two guys from the 90's. Billy Donovan (1) and Kane (2). Kane played here from 2010-2013.

Once again, reading comprehension.

 

[redsfan5590]

So, you admit fanbases do complain about people leaving...including ours...shocker.

Might be total garbage but once more, fans think they're invincible and can't be called out. Even the best HC in football called them out. Garbage goes both ways, fans have been pretty garbage themselves towards players.

I bring it up because you literally bring it up whenever you go elsewhere as a means of putting down Marshall.
Your ideas for improvement, especially funding, have been laughed at as horrendously inefficient and a worsening then situation.
Thing is, if the MU AD spent any money on it, you'd still complain...and if MU lost a football game, someone would bring up the money for a decent coordinator (whichever side underperformed for the loss) was wasted on bathrooms.

Fanbases complain, yes. You make it out that we are the worst fans in the country. Nick Saban has the right to call the fans out. A coach who was 6-7 and horribly underperformed doesn't. Especially when you have already been antagonistic toward fans.

Sir, the fact that you think my ideas (by the way the idea that we should update the bathrooms for the first time in stadium history, expand the concourse, and take care of our facility) are laughable is actually something I take pride in. You are among the most dense, people I've ever encountered on the internet. Which is saying something... Rifle exists.

"you'd still complain" this is your world, the hypothetical straw men you build up to make yourself feel better about your dumb argument.

Also side note: "you put the university down whenever you go elsewhere" lol yeah that's definitely not true. But it also doesn't mean we can't learn from other schools.