GK, or anybody else: How do flat earthers explain the attack on Pearl Harbor?
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the magnetic poles shift over time. so, there are models and calculators to calculate for that shift. So, even in modern devices with GNSS receivers they have a MAGVAR calculation or software to account for that.
There’s an idea that you could put a pretty powerful (but feasible) rotating magnet in the right orbit near Mars and generate enough to give protection.
They’ve actually flipped before. The magnetic North Pole has moved over 600 miles in the last 150 years, and it seems to be accelerating.
If it happened in our lifetime it would be a bad bad time. The protection would drop substantially (this has already started; there is a magnetic anomaly in the south Atlantic that occasionally fries satellites and causes astronauts to get hit by cosmic rays when they orbit over) which would wreck a lot of satellites, cause extinctions of animals that rely on the magnetic field to navigate, increase cancer rates. Flying may not be safe anymore because of the radiation. All that could last hundreds of years.
From the geological record it happens about every 300,000 years, and it’s been over 750,000 years since the last one. So we’re looking at geological time scales and it’s not LIKELY it happens in our lives, but it’s probably inevitable to be somebodies problem if we don’t kill ourselves off first.
No…it’s not. Earthquakes release two types of waves…P Waves (primary) and S Waves (secondary). P Waves and S Waves both travel through solids, but only P Waves can travel through liquids. Seismic data shows that S Waves don’t pass through the outer core, therefore it must be liquid.
Here’s an article on it. The tech isn’t there yet, but it’s reasonably close.
NASA proposes a magnetic shield to protect Mars' atmosphere
NASA proposes a magnetic shield to protect Mars' atmosphere
edit: Also, the earth’s inner core is solid due to the pressure. The outer core is liquid though.
Unless you have a physical sample of whatever the core is made up of then your postulation is theoretical. You know...science.
Loss of magnetic field certainly would be one of the many ways complex life on earth could end. Mars was covered with oceans and atmosphere at one point and the loss of its magnetic field completely stripped the planet of water and much of its atmosphere. With the exception of that water protected underground for the most part.
Shit, here comes the next dumb thing then.
We all have to wear metal suits to keep the earth from losing its magnetic field. Stop the spread of magnetic field depleting stuff that we all do.
Wear a mask, wear a metal haz mat suit.
We all have to wear metal suits to keep the earth from losing its magnetic field. Stop the spread of magnetic field depleting stuff that we all do.
Wear a mask, wear a metal haz mat suit.
You're correct. It could be a Honda generator or a hamster turning a turbo creating the magnetic field. Come to think about it, you can find “Hamster Generated Magnetic Fields” in the Flat Earther's Handbook right between “Fake Moon Landings“ and ”Vaccine Chips”.
Nah…wearing a metal suit wouldn’t stop it. Dig a deep hole, stock it with food, accumulate a library of VHS tapes and wait it out.
Loss would eventually end life on earth. Like you said, the solar winds would carry away all of our atmosphere over time. But I think the outer core would have to solidify for that to happen, and that’s a loooong way off. A flip would be a catastrophic disruption but it’s happened many times before with complex life and life keeps, uh, finding a way.
Yes but more like “theory of gravity” than “string theory.”
It's probably molten iron, I just find it funny when "scientists" ignore the scientific method.
Lol…pretty rich from a thread where I’m arguing with people giving credence to a flat earth. His answer was making light of your assertion and you never even picked up on it. What you’re asserting is like saying, “the sun is predominantly made of hydrogen is a theory,” because we can’t get close enough to get a sample. That’s absurd.
You have latched onto a single tangent (my not using the word theory) in order to obfuscate all that is being said in the thread. That is a tactic of someone who is losing the argument.
A theory in scientific context is much different than it is in everyday use. This article explains it well…
What Is a Scientific Theory?
A scientific theory is based on careful examination of facts.
From the article…
The way that scientists use the word 'theory' is a little different than how it is commonly used in the lay public," said Jaime Tanner, a professor of biology at Marlboro College. "Most people use the word 'theory' to mean an idea or hunch that someone has, but in science the word 'theory' refers to the way that we interpret facts."
Every scientific theory starts as a hypothesis. A scientific hypothesis is a suggested solution for an unexplained occurrence that doesn't fit into a currently accepted scientific theory. In other words, according to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, a hypothesis is an idea that hasn't been proven yet. If enough evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, it moves to the next step — known as a theory — in the scientific method and becomes accepted as a valid explanation of a phenomenon.
Tanner further explained that a scientific theory is the framework for observations and facts. Theories may change, or the way that they are interpreted may change, but the facts themselves don't change. Tanner likens theories to a basket in which scientists keep facts and observations that they find. The shape of that basket may change as the scientists learn more and include more facts. "For example, we have ample evidence of traits in populations becoming more or less common over time (evolution), so evolution is a fact but the overarching theories about evolution, the way that we think all of the facts go together might change as new observations of evolution are made," Tanner told Live Science.
Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality.
Nikola Tesla
Nikola Tesla
We’re playing catch up on being able to observe the things we’re trying to understand. It’s too small or too far away.
Once upon a time you could’ve made the same statement about much of Einstein’s work. But eventually observation caught up and proved most of it right.
Now if you make the same comment about string theory I sure wouldn’t disagree.
VHS, I'm loving the VHS.
Damn, I'm rising from the grave to see golden nuggets of greatness on here.
What do you know about sciatic nerve pain anyway? I know you don't want it. A literal pain in the literal ass. That shoots and burns all the way down one leg or maybe two.
Who knows what's next? I would wear a mask though if it made this go away.
Damn, I'm rising from the grave to see golden nuggets of greatness on here.
What do you know about sciatic nerve pain anyway? I know you don't want it. A literal pain in the literal ass. That shoots and burns all the way down one leg or maybe two.
Who knows what's next? I would wear a mask though if it made this go away.
On vanishing point, my own. On the rest, I’ve looked at some flat earth videos just curious as to how they try to explain their view.
San Francisco to London to South Africa to New Zealand? I’ll have to get my globe out, but doesn’t seem to make a North to south back to north circle to me.
