How much worse off are you at the end of '17 in comparison to the end of '16?
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Come on now, hillbilly. You know 2017 was great, due to Obama setting the table. (or at least, that will be the response of the person that thankfully has me on ignore)
Nah. Bush is blamed for everything that went wrong prior to Obama, and Obama gets credit for anything good that happens from 1/20/17 throughout the end of time. Standard rule in the Obama playbook.
Sistersville, I'm going to see a legend from Pikeville perform on the 20th in K-Zoo. Dwight Yoakum.
Not everyone gets to benefit from repealed regulations a year in advance like your brothers metal fab shop does.
And all those repealed regulations couldn't keep cheetos from 6th place in job creation over the last 6 years.
so, again, i ask you, greed, how much worse off are you . . . or, better off, if you're claiming lag from the bummer effect?
I'll tell you, moron. The wall makes me feel safer, and it's nice that Mexico paid for it. I've already got a $4000 increase in my income tax return (kinda like your brother and the coal fired power plant regulation repeal), the new and improved and cheaper and better healthcare plan cheetos signed is fantastic, all my coal mining friends are back to work, manufacturers are moving back to the U S so fast they're tripping over each other, steel imports are down, the national debt looks better than it has in years, all the roads and bridges are fixed, and I could go on and on. But in a word, life is downright perfect since cheetos shot a 69 on a golf course. And you?
dherd and Dog Rescueer posted more in 2017 than they did in 2016.
That fact alone makes 2017 worse.
That fact alone makes 2017 worse.
me? well, i'm obviously a hell of a lot better off than you. hell, i'd say i'm about as happy with life as you are ass-hurt over the don. LOL!
oh, my bro's company, since you're so interested and can't seem to post something towards me without mentioning it, his gross is up substantially over the prior year. oh, and he told me to tell you to look at the month of february, there was something done early that month and signed by the president regarding coal. the outlook from that in the power plant world caused things to take off, outages to occur, revenue to pour in. something about an "obama coal rule" that congress blocked and the president signed (that's be your president, the don). i know that won't fit your agenda and you'll attempt to tear it apart in order to save face and make yourself even more miserable, and that's okay. your misery is entertaining . . . but, seriously, if i were as miserable as you appear to constantly be, i'd eat a bullet.
Then you should be able to link that action. I'll be waiting, and then I can laugh at your ignorance.
typical fvcking lib. too lazy to do anything for themselves, wants everything spoon fed. i've told you before there was legislation that was signed by the president. now, i've given you the month. look it up you lazy prick.
I'm not going to search for something you CLAIM to exist. You know why? Because no such legislation exists from cheetos that would have caused your moron brother's business to do better.
lazy fvcker.
as i've previously indicated, outages took off this past year because of this and the outlook of trump doing away with other regulations, which occurred in october with repeal of the obama era carbon emissions rule.
now, i know you'll twist it in your mind and puke out a paragraph indicating why the repeal of these two obama regulations didn't have an effect on an increase in power plant outages, and, when you do, go ahead and provide your reasoning as to why that industry took off in 2017.
Bwaaaahahaha!!! I told you I'd laugh at your ignorance. You didn't disappoint. The Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement estimated annual losses of jobs at about 260. And you are attempting to claim that as the reason your brother's metal fab shop is doing better this year. The Stream Protection rule didn't go into effect until Jan 19, 2017, and was repealed in February of this year. So........bwaaaahahaha!!!
Secondly, the repeal of the Carbon Emissions Rule has not become effective yet. So that hasn't contributed to anything.
The small uptick in coal jobs, as I've said before, is mostly from the increased demand of metallurgical coal. That is a result of Australia's inability to provide met coal due to infrastructure problems caused by severe weather.
moron
Bullcrap the coal locally is going to the big sandy power plant in lawrence county.
you really are a fvcking dolt. if you think for a second that the outage industry isn't up because of the outlook of the don deregulating obummer regulations, you're more fvcking stupid than i thought. as indicated, i know it doesn't fit your narrative, but tough shit, numbers don't lie. he's been subbed for more jobs in power plants this year than ever. and, not just him, but, as previously indicated, have friends/relatives that have worked more on power plant outages this year than they have in years. more work, more opportunities. sorry you're too fvcking stupid to understand that.
Extra do you think something like this would cause companies to start preparing before the proposal goes into effect?
"The proposal lifts a ban on drilling, imposed by President Barack Obama in his final days in office, that protected more than 100 million offshore acres along the Arctic and Eastern Seaboard. Such a reversal deals a serious blow to Mr. Obama’s environmental legacy and signals that the Trump administration is nowhere near done unraveling the environmental restrictions of its predecessor in an effort to promote domestic energy production.
The drilling plan comes on the heels of a separate proposal to repeal offshore drilling safety regulations that were put in place after the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oil rig disaster, as well as a decision by Congress to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil and gas drilling.
“We’re embarking on a new path for energy dominance in America, particularly on offshore,” Ryan Zinke, the interior secretary, said Thursday as he unveiled the plan. “This is a clear difference between energy weakness and energy dominance. We are going to become the strongest energy superpower.”
www.nytimes.com/2018/01/04/climate/trump-offshore-drilling.html?_r=0
no, he's too stupid. he thinks the regulations have to be repealed and then it would take time for those preparations to begin. he's too stupid to understand that simply the outlook of trump doing away with obummer regulations could (actually did) cause the industry to start preparing, specifically after the first regulation was done away with back in february. was all in the outlook.
i'm telling you, guy is a dolt.
What is the purpose of the outage? If you're attempting to argue that coal fired power plants are on the comeback, then bwah.......ha.......ha. For 2017 and 2018 alone, 25 power plants are closing or converting to something other than coal.
KEY INDICATORS
Oct 2017 % Change from Oct2016
Total net generation (thousand MWh) 319,494 2.1%
Residential retail price (cents/kwh) 12.84 3.0%
Retail sales (thousand MWh) 296,077 -0.2%
Heating degree-days 204 21.4%
Natural gas price, Henry Hub ($/mmBtu) 2.95 -2.0%
Coal stocks (thousand tons) 141,169 -12.3%
Coal consumption (thousand tons) 50,172 -8.0%
Natural gas consumption (Mcf) 797,995 4.9%
Nuclear net generation (thousand MWh) 65,995
Source - US Energy Information Administration
Thanks trump, great job. Things took off so bigly. Believe it. Trust me.
From October 2016 to October 2017, electric production from coal was down 8%.
Dumbass.
Adding to this point. This is the foundation for bringing additional manufacturing back into the US.
If there was ever a doubt....at least now we know for sure that your career is not a business analyst.
Facts are a bitch, huh? Murox already told us how reputable the administration is. The numbers aren't made up.
Except for the fact you really don’t have all the “facts”. Shit, even a half ass attorney should understand that concept.
Facts to what exactly? You picked an extremely narrow metric of data (not even matched to the entire time Trump was in office by the way) and attempted to extrapolate it into a complete analysis of an individual business within an entire (sub) sector of the economy. You’re unbelievably ignorant.
You’ve basically put forth the “facts” that an apple is different from an orange. Kudos to your efforts mr. “Attorney”.
LAUGH MY MFN ASS OFF AT YOUR STUPID ASS with that response.
fwiw, you're not the yugest dUMass up ITT. cuntryrideadick [andcrytothegubmentwhyhemadefunofasafaggit] showed up to ease your pain.
Hey f'ucking retard, your retarded cousin, WVFAN attempted to brag how trump did something in February to turn things around specifically for coal powered electric generation plants. I posted facts, showing coal fired production of electricity generation is DOWN 8% for the last twelve months ending in October 2017, which are the latest statistics available from the USEIA. So I covered all of trump's term in office with the statistics available.
You are one of the biggest f'ucking morons I have ever seen. It's humiliating I had to break it down so simple a 10-year old could understand it just so you could.
You couldn't dispute a single fact I posted. Even a f'ucking moron can understand I just figuratively handed WVFAN's ass to him. Poor guy is probably as dumb as you.
That's all you got? You can't argue facts. You made some dumbass claim that wasn't true, thinking no one would challenge you on it on an attempt to swing from trump's dick. It turns out, you were dead wrong and trump can't do shit to bring back coal.
Try writing intelligently. You’re supposed to be an attorney.
October’16-October ‘17 is the “last 12 months”?? Seriously, do we need to pull out a calendar for you? Not only was Trump NOT President one Qtr of that time, it also leaves out 4th qtr ‘17 data. (One additional qtr Trump WAS prez).
Additionally within the context of WVFan’s discussion, he specifically related those changes to his brothers business. A business that does work within those power plants regardless of production. His brothers business has NOTHING to do with the “facts” you posted. Zero!! Nada!!
Work/maintenance on those plants happens regardless of “coal fired production” you’re pointing to. Your attempt at “facts” were completely irrelevant to the actual discussion he was having.
Let’s hope if you have a 10 year old they are smarter than you when you attempt to analyze something.
(No way you’re a lawyer. No way)
Well since you can't stop laughing at yourself long enough to answer the question, I'll answer it. The outages would be for one of two reasons that I can think of. 1. They are undergoing technical improvements or 2. They're old and need repair. Since a large portion of coal fired power plants are old and in need of repair, I'm going with that. And just so you know, neither 1 or 2 have a single thing to do with "repealed regulation". moron.
And all that ^^ is dependent on the concept that you might (not likely) be telling the truth about your brothers business doing better now than under obama. moron
Why would plants make improvements if they were facing shut down under bummer regs? Because of the outlook of those regs getting repealed, beginning with the one in February you indicated didn't occur. Idiot.
^^^Fixed it for you. This is more like it^^^
Will you ever offer anything to a conversation?
Why would those plants make improvements before that repeal took place, particularly when it was not certain the Clean Power Plan would be repealed, and it's STILL not certain? The repeal has been PROPOSED. If it is actually repealed, it will still be months from now, and the EPA has not proposed a timeline. Try again. Moron.
