What is the bare minimum Huff would need to accomplish for you to not just accept, but be happy with him receiving an extension?
Huff's Extension
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Like it or not he’ll be offered an extension at 4-8 or better
We hired him because Doc wasn’t winning championships. We had a coach that won 8 games a year and fired him.
We are in a better conference now, but Huff was also hired to be better, which means he has to be as good in a stronger conference as Doc was in a weaker conference. He needs to win at least 8 games.
We are in a better conference now, but Huff was also hired to be better, which means he has to be as good in a stronger conference as Doc was in a weaker conference. He needs to win at least 8 games.
He is done this year regardless. Already decided.
Win 8+ to get the extension.. no vacation time this year, he has put a lot of effort into this season, he knows what’s on the line. I like the guy but he needs wins…
Frankly, I think it would be best for all involved to start a total redo with a new HC in 2025. Hope we have a great season this fall but not seeing more than 6 wins at this point.
So Huff can beat OSU and Va Tech. Lose 2 conference games ( yes he’s capable) don’t make the playoffs and no extension?
Yeap… in my opinion!
Must start winning conference if we wanna see growth in fans and level of competition.
Notre dame and VT wins were fun and great for the short term health of the program. But finishing as champions against your peers is always the ultimate goal.
Yes. Because the object is to win our conference. At least be in there neck and neck.
Winning at ND lost it's luster as soon as we lost to BGSU and started tumbling in conference play.
Awesome wins, but at the end of the day it's about championships.
Ask youself which scenario is more disappointing.
Losing to your P5(s), but winning your conference championship.
OR
Beating your P5(s), but finishing middle to bottom of your conference.
In the first scenario the season is celebrated and in the second scenario you quickly start the season as a wasted opportunity just like 2022 turned out to be and last year was the same.
If the Marshall administration doesn't give any more of a shit about the football program than this, then they better be prepared for fan base not to either.
- What ifs about pulling off massive upsets but then losing conference games are pointless. This isn't going to happen. Yes, Notre Dame, but Ohio State is 1000 times better than Notre Dame.
- This season seems to be pretty clear. This is a bad coach, with bad players. But we are playing a very weak schedule. Very weak. It looks like 6-6 is very doable.
Then we see. Does non-leader CS get this joker out of here, or is this, like basketball, just a token effort.
My bet is on standing pat. It is what non-leaders do.
- This season seems to be pretty clear. This is a bad coach, with bad players. But we are playing a very weak schedule. Very weak. It looks like 6-6 is very doable.
Then we see. Does non-leader CS get this joker out of here, or is this, like basketball, just a token effort.
My bet is on standing pat. It is what non-leaders do.
So Brad is a non-leader? He ultimately makes the call. Seems to be doing damn good job so far.
If a university president spends 1% of his time on the athletic department, he is not doing his job. Running MU is, after governor, the most important job in the state. MU is this state's last and best hope, and BS is doing a GREAT job so far (it is about to get much harder went the governor changes). Great job.
CS, however, is not a leader. How do we know that? By the name on the door at the head football coach's office.
While I agree w you on CS, the HFC answers to the president as does the MBB Just part of being president these days
But the prez calls the shots in hiring and firing . Brad certainly has more important tasks to focus on but the buck stops with him.
And another instance that Sam has been out of touch with college athletics for at least the last 10 years
Spamite troll.
At least TRY to have a take. Writing "NOT EITHER" is not a take.
So tell us, troll, how much time does a university president (mine being Smith, yours being Gee, soon to be Manchin, whoever) spend on sports? And who runs the actual functions of the large business that a major university is, while he is worrying about sports?
What an idiot you are.
You say a lot of stupid things, including multiple ones in this thread, but this one may be the dumbest.
A university president, much like a CEO, has leaders of each department. Those department leaders report to the C-level suite (in this case, the university president). A good leader is staying very engaged with each of those leaders to be able to support, assess, and help guide those leaders. In doing so, it means that CEO/COO/university president is spending the majority of his/her time engaged with each of those departments. So if a university president is only spending 1% of their time on the athletic department - especially at the D1 level - they are not fulfilling their own role.
You really are a moron.
Looks like your take is being mocked, not just by me, Sammy. Your "1% of time" take is stupid and misinformed. Shows just how much you dont know about leadership. "Sports" is a large revenue driver within the large business of a university. The President of the University spends a good portion of time involved with the leadership in those departments.
Also, try harder with your "spamite troll" schtick. It's stale and stupid as well. How many times do we need to prove you wrong about that too.
I don’t understand? You’re saying extension….a 1 year extension? That wouldn’t be acceptable to any DI hfbc, I don’t believe. If not that, a 3-4 year? That would be worse than awful.
If we win 8 games he will be extended without question... If we are 5-7 or worse, he should be gone.
If we win 6 or 7 games, in my mind it will come down to how we look on the field.
If we go 6-6 or 7-5 and we are competitive in all of our games (with the exception of OSU who is going to beat us by 40) then it will be real interesting to see what happens.
As for Brad, Sam is overselling his point but not by much... Brad Smith is running a university and by pretty much all accounts doing a good job. Athletics is just one department within that business, and I don't think he intervenes in that department unless something is really really haywire... Could Brad go over Spears head and fire a coach if he thought a change was needed, sure... Would he do that? - IMO, only if it was exceedingly clear that a change needed made (and if Spears wouldn't make it).
As much as we are judging Huff on this season, the jury is still very much out on Spears at this point too. He's been here long enough to be making progress in the revenue sports (football and mens hoops), and so far we've had the DD debacle that has left basketball in the hands of Coach Jackson, and we have Huff on a very clear hot seat.
If we win 6 or 7 games, in my mind it will come down to how we look on the field.
If we go 6-6 or 7-5 and we are competitive in all of our games (with the exception of OSU who is going to beat us by 40) then it will be real interesting to see what happens.
As for Brad, Sam is overselling his point but not by much... Brad Smith is running a university and by pretty much all accounts doing a good job. Athletics is just one department within that business, and I don't think he intervenes in that department unless something is really really haywire... Could Brad go over Spears head and fire a coach if he thought a change was needed, sure... Would he do that? - IMO, only if it was exceedingly clear that a change needed made (and if Spears wouldn't make it).
As much as we are judging Huff on this season, the jury is still very much out on Spears at this point too. He's been here long enough to be making progress in the revenue sports (football and mens hoops), and so far we've had the DD debacle that has left basketball in the hands of Coach Jackson, and we have Huff on a very clear hot seat.
Sooooo, in a decade as a HC, Danny D'Antoni got ONE conference championship, and ONE historic (NCAA) win, and both were in the SAME Season. NEVER won either in the OTHER NINE SEASONS!!! Also, NEVER WON A GAME over a MAJOR FOE in that 10 Season span!!!''
Wonder if was "all about championships" in HERD basketball?????
Verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry Interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here’s the thing you act as though the AD CS has the say over the HFC, he doesn’t other than get his coffee in the AM. The HFC answers to the president, here at Marshall and many other schools, they don’t answer to the Athletic Director. It’s been that way at MU since at least BP
Spamite troll.
I notice you did not answer the question.
Just like you NEVER actually post anything about Marshall athletics. Just personal insults aimed at me, and a few others here.
Because you are a Spamite, not a Marshall fan.
Go away.
I did. You're just too stupid to understand. I will do it again.
You should read more. I post often about Marshall sports directly with many posters here. Primarily football season, because as I've stated multiple times, grew up in Htgn watching and cheering for the Herd for decades. Again, try harder. Your schtick is dumb.
Link please.
All of your posts are just personal insults aimed at me and a few other Marshall fans. You never discuss actual Marshall athletics. Just yelling "NOT EITHER" to what other people say.
Which is not surprising. You are not a Marshall fan.
I really do not understand. "Rifle" is mentally ill. He deserves our pity, and our help. With treatment, he could be a productive member of society. He, while he deserves some blame for refusing care, cannot really help that he is mentally defective. It is a condition. You, on the other hand, seem fine. You are just a small little person, a keyboard warrior with nothing of merit to say beyond trying to make fun of people that care about a subject you do not.
Go away.
Same with VT. Had we won conference each year we’d have had a shot at access bowl. Instead we barely make a bowl
Here are just a few posts the last few months on this forum. None of them directed or referring to you.
You want to try again???
You guys are wasting your breath. He is gone next year. Already decided.
I actually believe this should be the case. If the rumors were true (offered an extension before NC State game and turned it down), and then went on to have the season he had, he should be gone. This season is about proving his value to the next employer in 2025.
With that said, the landscape of college football (collegiate sports as a whole) has changed greatly over the last 3-4 years. So much so that even HOF coaches are hanging it up due to the complexity. Building programs with players who are willing to stay 2 or 3 years, developing continuity and consistency has gotten damn near impossible.
Sam thought the baseball stadium would never get built...
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