I’m not normally over here, but wanted to see if someone can answer a ? about 🇺🇦 Ukraine war

[raleighherdfan]

I'm not talking about Trump saying it....it's being reported (and people are supportive of it)...

"Zelensky made clear Tuesday that he was open to talks with Russia, but that Kyiv would not accept a deal that recognizes Moscow’s control of

Why Zelensky can't and won't give up Crimea

Ukraine's leader has ruled out recognising Russian control of the peninsula as part of a Trump peace plan.

www.bbc.com

Why Zelensky can't and won't give up Crimea

Ukraine's leader has ruled out recognising Russian control of the peninsula as part of a Trump peace plan.

www.bbc.com

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/23/europe/rubio-russia-ukraine-ceasefire-talks-intl-hnk/index.html

TDS is a real condition for many on this board.

 

[herdftblfan]

I'm not talking about Trump saying it....it's being reported (and people are supportive of it)...

"Zelensky made clear Tuesday that he was open to talks with Russia, but that Kyiv would not accept a deal that recognizes Moscow’s control of Crimea."

Why Zelensky can't and won't give up Crimea

Ukraine's leader has ruled out recognising Russian control of the peninsula as part of a Trump peace plan.

www.bbc.com

Why Zelensky can't and won't give up Crimea

Ukraine's leader has ruled out recognising Russian control of the peninsula as part of a Trump peace plan.

www.bbc.com

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/23/europe/rubio-russia-ukraine-ceasefire-talks-intl-hnk/index.html

Then he’s a fool.

 

[herdfan429]

Then he’s a fool.

That's what did it? He's been acting a fool for a long time.

 

[i am herdman]

If the hold up is Crimea, shame on Zelensky. I can understand not ceding territory taken in the current conflict but Crimea is in the past.

Hold ups

Russia says

Ukriane must give up Crimea and area held by Russia now. Russia has already written that jnto their constitution.

Ukraine must go down to 85, 000 troops. No NATO membership. No long range weapons.

Ukraine must give up total control of the nuclear power plant in thr South. Can't remember thr name right now. Russia wants total control of it.

Ukriane must De-Nazify. Whatever that really means. Likely change leadership.

The key is Russian law Saya 4 regions are now Russian. Until every Ukrainian soldier or attack is over in those regions the war goes on.

As long as Zelensky ans Ukraine want to fight the Russias will continue..

At some point Ukraine will lose more. Zelesky is basically fighting for areas that don't want to be Ukraknian.

 

[i am herdman]

Maybe Zelensky us coming around. Russia has the upper hand. His plays are limited.