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If any of you guys vote for Hillary Clinton

But then again half of this country belongs to them anyway and was forced off their land by white Americans
 
The people you call illegal are actually natives to this land. Think about that for a second
 
My browser must be messing up because I swear it just showed somebody asking what is it that you find illegal about illegal immigration.
 
America is already a socialist country Waldon lets not be naïve here

Not quite yet. Currently, I am allowed to have my own place and drive my own car. Bernie Sanders wants me to share it. If I'm going to share it, then I'm going to shit on it first.
 
Which is exactly why I think she will get kicked in the nuts and slide into irrelevancy this time too. Its ultimately happened in every other role she's been in.

Yeah, but it took the novelty act of Obama to do it last time. Is there anybody now who can do that again? Eventually, the media will rally around whoever their candidate is and propel them to victory. Who can pop culture rally behind better than Hillary?

They have searched and come up empty so far. Biden and Sanders can't get it. They are not cool enough. They could actually lose the general, even to one of our weak loser candidates.

If it's Jeb Bush vs. Joe Biden or something like that, then only old people will vote. The bums, hippies, gay paraders, Snoop Dogg fans, etc. won't bother to take time away from their stupor to go vote for some old white guy.
 
Yeah, but it took the novelty act of Obama to do it last time. Is there anybody now who can do that again? Eventually, the media will rally around whoever their candidate is and propel them to victory. Who can pop culture rally behind better than Hillary?

They have searched and come up empty so far. Biden and Sanders can't get it. They are not cool enough. They could actually lose the general, even to one of our weak loser candidates.

If it's Jeb Bush vs. Joe Biden or something like that, then only old people will vote. The bums, hippies, gay paraders, Snoop Dogg fans, etc. won't bother to take time away from their stupor to go vote for some old white guy.

Have you seen the crowds that go to see Bernie speak?? They are the biggest by far
 
And just like how this country was built, they come here for a better life but I guess since they aren't white Europeans, they will be frowned upon

LOL, on here talking to hicks from West Virginia about being frowned upon. Barking up the wrong tree with this. We are frowned upon, shit upon, spit upon and left for dead.

I've done my fair share of whining about it, but at the end of the day you still have to go on anyway. I think it's kind of nice to still get things done despite being frowned upon.
 
"You are a moron. I like you guys but that would be moronic.

You need to show some ball sacks and not vote for a lying woman. I don't care if Elmer Fudd were running against her, you might as well hand in your man card and unzip that nut sack because as Jeff Foxworthy said, "Here is your sign"

The woman has no redeeming qualities at all. Horrible wife. Cheater husband she hung with for political gain. Gave birth to a butt ugly baby(probably the only time she ever had sex with a man), is a chronic liar, and puts so much make up on now she needs to put it on with a putty knife...no make that a Wagner Power Sprayer.

How can anyone even look at her and see any credibility at all.

Oh, I bet she can't even make a pop tart for breakfast.

Real Men would never want to work for a winch like her or be married to the frigid mule face either. So, why would you vote for her?

Morons."

_____Trump voter



You can't make up irony this good.
 
And just like how this country was built, they come here for a better life but I guess since they aren't white Europeans, they will be frowned upon

who is frowning on immigrants who come to this country legally? You just cant stop making up dumb shit can you? Again, I realize now you don't understand what "illegal" means but I will try and simplify it for you...."legal" immigration is a good concept (that's what built this country)...."illegal" immigration is "breaking the law".
 
Man your reading comprehension is terrible. Trump is suggesting deporting Mexicans that are BORN HERE!!!!!!!!! That is unconstitutional and retarded

I'm still waiting for you to show us in the constitution where it says children born to illegal parents are automatically granted citizenship in this country. Tick, tick, tick

Reposts and ramblings about white people don't count as a response.
 
Or I can show you in the 14th amendment where it says if your born here, your a citizen
 
Or I can show you in the 14th amendment where it says if your born here, your a citizen

No where in the constitution does it say children born to parents that are here illegally, are automatically granted citizenship. In fact, the constitution grants sole discretion to congress in adopting laws of naturalization. Article 1, Sec 8. Clause 4.

Here are the most basic requirements to start an immigrants legalization as laid out by immigration and congressional law (that everyone seems to want to ignore)...

For basic eligibility to become a naturalized U.S. citizen, you must first a spend at least five years as a legal permanent resident of the United States, during which you did not take any trips abroad for more than six months, and were present in the United States for not less than half of the entire period (two-and-a-half years). Additional factors, such as marriage to a U.S. citizen, may affect eligibility for citizenship

 
Ok show us where it says if your parents are illegal aliens and your are born here and it says that?

This is where Fever learns that he may not be a real US citizen and probably should be deported. Of course he bitches and moans so much about how terrible America is, deportation may be the best option for him. It may also be an easy way for his mom to get him out...
 
This is where Fever learns that he may not be a real US citizen and probably should be deported. Of course he bitches and moans so much about how terrible America is, deportation may be the best option for him. It may also be an easy way for his mom to get him out...

Fever and others confuse what is bureaucratic precedence over what the constitution says. What Trump says is technically correct and he is at least willing to address the situation that it is out of control.
 
My mom came here legally on a work visa, I was born here St. Francis Hospital Evanston, Ill. Mom is now a legal citizen.

Fact of the matter here is this, what is the big deal about illegal immigration when their is much more pressing needs in this country then people coming looking for a better life??
 
Fever and others confuse what is bureaucratic precedence over what the constitution says. What Trump says is technically correct and he is at least willing to address the situation that it is out of control.

No, he is looking for a scapegoat to the bigger problem and that is the Government working with the Cartels to flood this country with Heroin.
 
No where in the constitution does it say children born to parents that are here illegally, are automatically granted citizenship. In fact, the constitution grants sole discretion to congress in adopting laws of naturalization. Article 1, Sec 8. Clause 4.

Here are the most basic requirements to start an immigrants legalization as laid out by immigration and congressional law (that everyone seems to want to ignore)...

For basic eligibility to become a naturalized U.S. citizen, you must first a spend at least five years as a legal permanent resident of the United States, during which you did not take any trips abroad for more than six months, and were present in the United States for not less than half of the entire period (two-and-a-half years). Additional factors, such as marriage to a U.S. citizen, may affect eligibility for citizenship

The question is how can someone be naturalized if they are born here?
 
Ok show us where it says if your parents are illegal aliens and your are born here and it says that?

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
 
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Wait until they take over Wayne County. Go out to Beech Fork. They're already staring at the carp at the marina like they're dinner. They likely made the trip from Huntington though.

Someday, the government will ship some Section 8'ers out to the country like they do in the good parts of these cities. They'll take over the hillsides and fight with the pill pushers and dopers.

Mayberry's ruined. Hell, everything I just said is pretty much already happening.
 
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

Thanks for your input! Wow. never seen that before!

So illegal aliens are legal residents of North Carolina or Arizona or Michigan?

A mother runs across the border in Arizon and gives birth in the desert 5 miles from the border and now we grant her and her entire family citizenship?
 
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I will say the Mexcians(and others from that region) work hard. They will do work lazy whites and lazy blacks won't do.

That being said we can't let this continue the way it is going. It will bankrupt our country.
 
The bigger concern from some of the rich people like Trump may be they don't necessarily enjoy the melting pot turning America into a foreign country.

I don't care that much anymore. Hell, people are pretty much all foreigners to me now.
 
Thanks for your input! Wow. never seen that before!

So illegal aliens are legal residents of North Carolina or Arizona or Michigan?

A mother runs across the border in Arizon and gives birth in the desert 5 miles from the border and now we grant her and her entire family citizenship?

What part are you having trouble with? The law is plain. Funny how you "constitutionists" despise the constitution.
 
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Who is debating it?
Born in the U S = United States citizen.
How tough is that?

Well, watch the news. It is up for debate right now.

Where does it say the children of illegal aliens and they are not residents of the states. You do realize why the 14th Amendment was put in place, don't you? It wasn't for illegal aliens.

Indians were not granted citizenship until 1924.

Ok, let's keep the kids and send the parents back where they came from. How about that?
 
I see Greed doesn't understand the concept of reading beyond a top headline and understanding the fine print further down within a document . Hilarious he is basing his opinion on one line that had nothing to do with ILLEGAL immigrants.

How exactly is an ILLEGAL immigrant "subject to the jurisdiction" Greed????

Nothing in the constitution says a child born to illegal immigrants in the United States has to be considered a citizen. Congress is given the authority in the Constitution to determine such law on which to place such a policy if desired.
Article 1, Sec 8. Clause 4............read it (and try and understand it) Greed

Herdman is correct. The 14th Amendment dealt specifically with Indian tribes. It had nothing to do with illegal immigration.

Where's Fever??? Did he realize yet another misinformed opinion went up in smoke??
 
Well, watch the news. It is up for debate right now.

Where does it say the children of illegal aliens and they are not residents of the states. You do realize why the 14th Amendment was put in place, don't you? It wasn't for illegal aliens.

Indians were not granted citizenship until 1924.

Ok, let's keep the kids and send the parents back where they came from. How about that?


STOP WATCHING FOX NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I see Greed doesn't understand the concept of reading beyond a top headline and understanding the fine print further down within a document . Hilarious he is basing his opinion on one line that had nothing to do with ILLEGAL immigrants.

How exactly is an ILLEGAL immigrant "subject to the jurisdiction" Greed????

Nothing in the constitution says a child born to illegal immigrants in the United States has to be considered a citizen. Congress is given the authority in the Constitution to determine such law on which to place such a policy if desired.
Article 1, Sec 8. Clause 4............read it (and try and understand it) Greed

Herdman is correct. The 14th Amendment dealt specifically with Indian tribes. It had nothing to do with illegal immigration.

Where's Fever??? Did he realize yet another misinformed opinion went up in smoke??

So someone that is born in the United State and whose rights are spelled out in the constitution is a misinformed opinion?? Wow you are more ignorant than I thought. BORN HERE. And by your logic ALOT of people would be deported considering illegal immigration has been going on since the 1800s not just Latin Americans. I know a lot of people whose grandparents came here illegally from Europe and Asia especially from the Eastern European areas and Italy. I guess their kids and grandkids should be deported too.
 
So someone that is born in the United State and whose rights are spelled out in the constitution is a misinformed opinion?? Wow you are more ignorant than I thought. BORN HERE. And by your logic ALOT of people would be deported considering illegal immigration has been going on since the 1800s not just Latin Americans. I know a lot of people whose grandparents came here illegally from Europe and Asia especially from the Eastern European areas and Italy. I guess their kids and grandkids should be deported too.

Its not my logic...........its the LAW as actually spelled out. Who needs Fox News when I can read the constitution and understand it??? NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION GUARANTEES AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS CHILD AUTOMATIC NATURALIZATION SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WERE BORN HERE. The constitution simply grants the rights to Congress to write the laws which establish the steps for naturalization of immigrants. Why is that so hard to understand??

Are those grandparents still ILLEGAL or were they granted amnesty in order to become "Naturalized" or did they go about becoming a LEGAL citizen at some point? This is an important question that needs answered. If either of these instances pertains to their current citizenship status........then once again........you are proving to be an uninformed moron who has not a clue what you are even talking about.
 
Well, this is another example of a fake panther on here. The real ones don't like Mexicans. They really don't like Japanese.
 
Damn, you might be more of a recluse than I am. How old did you say you were, 29? This may be your last good year. You better enjoy it before you get much older.

Very much longer without a normal life and you start to see why other people imprison themselves with wives and children.
 
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