Jim Acosta Owns Himself...Proves That Walls Work
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Let me dumb it down for the deplorables: cheeto keeps saying this is a "national emergency" and went to a spot where this supposed "national emergency" is taking place. However, as Acosta showed, it is far from a national emergency.
You do realize how easy that wall would be to breach, right? Hell, you wouldn't even need a ladder. You could throw a rope over the top, pull it through one of the slots in the fence, and either tie it, have it weighted to hold it down, or have somebody hold it and climb up and over with the rope. You can get a basic saw and saw through that "steel wall."
The fact, and Acosta's valid point for those of you who aren't complete morons, is that cheeto declaring that this a national emergency is far from it.
You do realize how easy that wall would be to breach, right? Hell, you wouldn't even need a ladder. You could throw a rope over the top, pull it through one of the slots in the fence, and either tie it, have it weighted to hold it down, or have somebody hold it and climb up and over with the rope. You can get a basic saw and saw through that "steel wall."
The fact, and Acosta's valid point for those of you who aren't complete morons, is that cheeto declaring that this a national emergency is far from it.
Tell the families of people killed by illegals that there isn't a crisis or emergency at the border. Go ahead.
And the entire reason that there wasn't anything going on at that particular spot is precisely because there is a wall. That idiot just proved Trump's point, and you still lap it up like the liberal sheep you are.
Hey families, there is no crisis or emergency at the border. Illegals commit less crime as a percentage of the population than the rest of the population.
SO, FAUX AINT NEWS ITS PROPAGANDA TELLS ALL THE DITTO HEADS THAT WALLS REALLY DO WORK
ESPECIALLY GENERAL BONE SPURS WALLS - CAUSE CONSTRUCTION IS THE THING HE REALLY KNOWS
ABOUT.
OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!
President Donald Trump has repeatedly advocated for a steel slat design for his border wall, which he described as "absolutely critical to border security" in his Oval Office address to the nation Tuesday. But Department of Homeland Security testing of a steel slat prototype proved it could be cut through with a saw, according to a report by DHS.
A photo exclusively obtained by NBC News shows the results of the test after military and Border Patrol personnel were instructed to attempt to destroy the barriers with common tools.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...-border-wall-showed-it-could-be-sawed-n956856
ESPECIALLY GENERAL BONE SPURS WALLS - CAUSE CONSTRUCTION IS THE THING HE REALLY KNOWS
ABOUT.
OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!
President Donald Trump has repeatedly advocated for a steel slat design for his border wall, which he described as "absolutely critical to border security" in his Oval Office address to the nation Tuesday. But Department of Homeland Security testing of a steel slat prototype proved it could be cut through with a saw, according to a report by DHS.
A photo exclusively obtained by NBC News shows the results of the test after military and Border Patrol personnel were instructed to attempt to destroy the barriers with common tools.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...-border-wall-showed-it-could-be-sawed-n956856
Even NPR acknowledges the issues.
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/09/683623555/president-obama-also-faced-a-crisis-at-the-southern-border
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/09/683623555/president-obama-also-faced-a-crisis-at-the-southern-border
I'm sure the family of the policeman who was just killed by the illegal immigrant will rest easy tonight knowing that you said illegals commit less crime as a percentage of the population than the rest of the population. Man, that might even bring their dad back from the grave.
SO, FAUX AINT NEWS ITS PROPAGANDA TELLS ALL THE DITTO HEADS THAT WALLS REALLY DO WORK
ESPECIALLY GENERAL BONE SPURS WALLS - CAUSE CONSTRUCTION IS THE THING HE REALLY KNOWS
ABOUT.
OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!
President Donald Trump has repeatedly advocated for a steel slat design for his border wall, which he described as "absolutely critical to border security" in his Oval Office address to the nation Tuesday. But Department of Homeland Security testing of a steel slat prototype proved it could be cut through with a saw, according to a report by DHS.
A photo exclusively obtained by NBC News shows the results of the test after military and Border Patrol personnel were instructed to attempt to destroy the barriers with common tools.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/im...-border-wall-showed-it-could-be-sawed-n956856
So you are admitting better walls need to be built. Thank you for reinforcing that point.
Tell the families of people killed by Christians that there isn't a crisis or emergency regarding murderous Christians. Go ahead.
See how stupid you sound?
God, your ignorance on this makes you look so dumb.
Do you think there is a mad rush at any open area on the border? Do you think you can sit out there and count illegals rushing across all day and night? Have you ever been to the border? Ever seen the plethora of open border where Mexicans could easily walk across? You think that wall - one that would take just minutes to get over (or slightly longer to get through) is what is keeping them away? Please try harder to not be so stupid.
I've been to the National Park pictured below three times since May 2017. See the land on the other side of that river with water depth of 18"? Yeah, that's Mexico. There is no wall. Other than a very small border patrol office about three miles from there (which never has more than two border officers), the border looks like that for tens (possibly hundreds of miles). Anyone could crawl across the border back-and-forth a million times and not get caught.
There is a small town about 1.5 miles up the river from the spot in the first picture. There is no wall, no border patrol, no helicopters. How is it that everyone in that town isn't bum-rushing the border? If you can't walk that terrain, a mule, ATV, or pick up truck can move you for tens of miles to the border without a problem. Yet no illegals. Yet Acosta didn't see any because of the wall, huh?
Here's another spot about five miles down from the first picture. At numerous spots on that stretch of river, you can cross the river without getting your feet wet by stepping on stones. No wall, no border patrol, nothing. Why isn't it packed with illegals if the wall is why Acosta saw that it was tranquil? To the right of me is Mexico.
The below picture is of me on Mexico soil (or within feet of it). No wall (other than the cliff that cuts off a mile from there), no border patrol. Why weren't there illegals crossing that river?
Again, your ignorance on this is astounding. This "national emergency" is bogus. Your deplorable president has been embarrassed that yet another of his biggest promises has been a miserable failure two years after taking office. Instead of being an adult and realizing that his plan is foolish, he continues to perpetuate bullshit that ignorant deplorables like you eat up.
In very populated areas, are there attempts, many of which are successful? Sure. Is it a "national emergency" that requires $5 billion to erect a wall - something that can easily be breached - along the border? Of course not.
Acosta saw no illegals, because there simply isn't this bum-rush that you think exists. If the wall was too difficult to breach, there are tons of easy crossings not too far away from these walls. Having a wall is useless even if you put one to account for every inch of the border. They are too easy to breach for such big distances as the border. You simply cannot monitor a wall enough to stop people from the 60 seconds it would take to climb over it, the 2 minutes it would take a few of them to saw through it, etc.
Walking straight. Walking straight takes two seconds. Breaching that wall can be done in sixty seconds.
What's easier: having two seconds to travel five miles to look for people climbing the wall or having sixty seconds to do it? Trick question. Neither are going to be useful.
That's the point. Building something that can so easily be breached is absurd.
No the point is to make it more difficult. A wall in places accomplishes that
That's like forcing everyone to submit a blood test and wait for results to come back before they are able to start their car each time, just to make sure they aren't driving drunk. You don't spend $5 billion to put a blood-soaked band-aid on a wound that is already healed over.
Do you understand that alright?
On a related note, cheeto recently has been very concerned about drugs easily getting across these open borders. Have any of you deplorables taken a look at the wall in the Acosta video and/or any of the walls cheeto has suggested? You see the size of the slots in that steel panels, right? You realize that even if you didn't want to send the drugs over the wall, you can simply pass large quantities through those large slots, right? Brilliant.
How about the families of the three kids killed prom night in Huntington 10 years ago, how about the families of the girl that was kidnapped, raped and killed while getting off work at the Huntington mall?
What about these three sick white fvcks who are probably your relatives.
https://www.herald-dispatch.com/new...cle_43f22720-6e7d-5c3c-886b-f2a75fd2a0f4.html
Really are you a total fvcking stupid fvck?
Go breach it then. Let's see how easy it is.
Anyway, if you call 20 million illegals in this country a non emergency well, then you are in denial.
I would direct you to look up the definition of emergency but I know you are lazy, so here you go.
Emergency- a sudden, urgent, usually unexpected occurrence or occasion requiring immediate action
Now tell me is it an emergency?????? Answer carefully this will stay with you for a very long time.
making excuses and arguing over semantics.
want to address the 20 million illegals?
do you think people should come in here at will?
Why breach it? There are thousands of miles where I can just walk across with no border patrol for miles.
If they build a wall for those thousands of dollars, I will need 60 seconds to get over it. Hell, give me a few Mexicans and a few saws, and we will put a much easier entry point like in this video. Skip ahead to the three minute mark:
Believe it or not trumptard semantics matter especially when you want to call an emergency which it clearly is not and want to raid the government of billions of dollars. There are definitions and rules we all live by and so has to trump.
Do you make sense to yourself, because you don't to anyone else.
They have made 600 arrests for illegal entry, so that somehow disproves what any of us have said? Did any of us deny that illegals cross every day? You'll have to explain this one.
A study on crime and immigration from the Marshall Project...
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2018/03/30/the-myth-of-the-criminal-immigrant
The Marshall Project is a non-partisan, non-profit organization that provides information pertinent to the criminal justice system. It has won several journalism awards including the Pulitzer, Edward R. Murrow Award, and the George Polk Award for excellence. The website mediabiasfactcheck.com has rated it “least biased” and “high” in factual reporting...
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-marshall-project/
And here are the results of four comprehensive studies are summarized and published in the peer-reviewed journal Criminology...
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1745-9125.12175
All of these studies show no link between undocumented immigration and violent crime rates. A similar study was performed to look at non-violent crime as it relates to immigration...
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4450776-Light-Et-Al-AJPH-Published.html
“Now, four academic studies show that illegal immigration does not increase the prevalence of violent crime or drug and alcohol problems. In the slew of research, motivated by Trump's rhetoric, social scientists set out to answer this question: Are undocumented immigrants more likely to break the law?
Michael Light, a criminologist at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, looked at whether the soaring increase in illegal immigration over the last three decades caused a commensurate jump in violent crimes: murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault. “
"Increased undocumented immigration since 1990 has not increased violent crime over that same time period," Light said in a phone interview.”
Study after study finds that immigration does not increase crime, either violent or non-violent. In fact, areas of immigration show crime rates below the national average. Of course that information is only relevant to those who want to know the truth about crime and immigration. For the rest of you...MAGA!
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2018/03/30/the-myth-of-the-criminal-immigrant
The Marshall Project is a non-partisan, non-profit organization that provides information pertinent to the criminal justice system. It has won several journalism awards including the Pulitzer, Edward R. Murrow Award, and the George Polk Award for excellence. The website mediabiasfactcheck.com has rated it “least biased” and “high” in factual reporting...
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-marshall-project/
And here are the results of four comprehensive studies are summarized and published in the peer-reviewed journal Criminology...
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1745-9125.12175
All of these studies show no link between undocumented immigration and violent crime rates. A similar study was performed to look at non-violent crime as it relates to immigration...
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4450776-Light-Et-Al-AJPH-Published.html
“Now, four academic studies show that illegal immigration does not increase the prevalence of violent crime or drug and alcohol problems. In the slew of research, motivated by Trump's rhetoric, social scientists set out to answer this question: Are undocumented immigrants more likely to break the law?
Michael Light, a criminologist at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, looked at whether the soaring increase in illegal immigration over the last three decades caused a commensurate jump in violent crimes: murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault. “
"Increased undocumented immigration since 1990 has not increased violent crime over that same time period," Light said in a phone interview.”
Study after study finds that immigration does not increase crime, either violent or non-violent. In fact, areas of immigration show crime rates below the national average. Of course that information is only relevant to those who want to know the truth about crime and immigration. For the rest of you...MAGA!
I didn't read your lengthy diatribe. There is your explanation.
so you are for illegal immigration? Let's do nothing about it? Seriously? Crime is crime.
You are denying what the border patrol agents and those on the front lines of this are saying?
“More than 25,000 members of family units were apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border in November, the highest monthly total since at least 2012.”
(Nope. Not a crisis here)
“Trump has asked Congress for $5.7 billion to build barriers along the Mexican border in addition to more agents, immigration judges, detention space, humanitarian assistance and medical support. Trump also asked Congress to close "border security loopholes" in the law.”
(Yep. Pretty much what Obummer and Dems were asking for in 2014)
(Nope. Not a crisis here)
“Trump has asked Congress for $5.7 billion to build barriers along the Mexican border in addition to more agents, immigration judges, detention space, humanitarian assistance and medical support. Trump also asked Congress to close "border security loopholes" in the law.”
(Yep. Pretty much what Obummer and Dems were asking for in 2014)
Do you actually believe that the areas where illegal entries along the border happen, is where immigrants stay?
Are you under some kind of stupor that makes the murder by immigrants more deadly and heartbreaking than a murder by someone not an immigrant?
are you some kind of stupor to say we shouldn't try to stop it?
What I'm saying is what I've been saying all along. The wall is a stupid idea. Add 10,000 border patrol agents. The cost of the wall will pay them 48 years at $50,000 each per year, and 10,000 more people will have a decent job.
The one that was six sentences or the one that was five sentences? If that's too high of a number for you to count, ask the banker for his calculator. Actually, don't. It always fails him.
well ****...since crimes happen maybe we shouldn't enforce any laws. you are a stupid idiot.
Let's think about that for a minute. The border is approximately 1954 miles long. Currently, there is a wall/fencing for about 654 miles of that wall. Since this magic wall/fencing immediately stops any crossing and is impossible to breach, according to the deplorables, that means about 1300 miles is currently "open" that would need protection.
Hire 10,000 border agents like E.T. said. They all can't work every day around the clock, so put them on 8 hour shifts. That means 3333 agents working at one time on the unfenced border (of course, this also doesn't take into account about them needing days off, but that's beside the point). 3333 agents to patrol about 1300 miles. That means you could have an agent for just about every one-third of a mile along the border. Of course, a significant portion of that unfenced 1300 mile border is simply not able to be crossed due to the terrain which wouldn't require an agent every third of a mile (or anywhere close to that).
Like E.T. said, if you hire 10,000 agents at $50,000 per year, you're looking at $500 million per year in salaries. What will be the full cost of what cheeto wants to do besides the $5 billion he is requesting (which doesn't cover maintenance, the necessity of still having agents to patrol it, etc.)?
An agent every third of a mile is going to do far, far more than a fence that is unmonitored that can easily be breached. But that wasn't cheeto's original promise, so we know the outcome of that.
Why the hell not? An actual border agent (with more agents every .33 miles away) is going to do a lot better than a fence with no agents that can easily be breached. Depending on how much the cost (and maintenance) of an entire fence actually would be, it could be decades of better border security while at the same time providing 10,000 decent paying jobs.
Every ten miles would mean an additional $1.5 million in income for that area, which would be a nice little boost to a local economy every ten miles.
But wait, there's already 18,000 border patrol agents. So you take 1/3rd of those (3 shifts) and we now have appx 6,000 agents working at one time. A border patrol agent about every 380 yards.
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