Lmao at Huffs contract
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Less salary than Gibby.
Less years than Gibby.
Less money for assistants than Gibby (but hey at least he can overpay Sharrod Everett).
Can't make this stuff up!
Less years than Gibby.
Less money for assistants than Gibby (but hey at least he can overpay Sharrod Everett).
Can't make this stuff up!
Chris, you and I are really going to have to sit down one day and have a deep discussion about sarcasm.
After reading the Athletic article, it sounds like we parted ways mutually. Pretty interesting read.
We upgraded the human being in charge.
You may not want to know Coach Gibson said something like, "House #16 is my last house" or something like that.
Oh, and it's not a personality disorder...by any means.
CH spent four years looking for the next step up. Never an interview. Finally took a side step, which is really a step down in terms of resources considering the huge shadow of the SEC he now play under. No one really cares about USM in Mississippi.
He is gone. We improved to a quality human being with character and dignity, something the cabal who hired CH forgot was important.
At least MH tried to warn us.
He is gone. We improved to a quality human being with character and dignity, something the cabal who hired CH forgot was important.
At least MH tried to warn us.
I will yield to you in this matter because I know nothing about Gibson.
Huff has NPD.
You obviously have zero education in the subject.
You did the right thing in stopping while you were ahead.
By all means then...please state your reasoning behind your belief Huff has NPD.
It might be less than what Gibson is getting, but Huff's still getting about a $200K raise from what he made at Marshall.
How is air a reach. You were insinuating that he's been all over the place and never stayed anywhere long term. He's moved 16 times that doesn't mean he's been to that many schools. In fact in 30 years of coaching he's been to 10 different schools. In huffs 20 years he's been at 11 schools.
He might want to use that extra 200K to hire an image consultant to help repair his tarnished reputation after this portal mess
True but he missed out on even more when you consider the opportunity cost. The reason most are laughing, though, is because we heard all week from USM fans that his base salary was 1.3 to 1.5M
Not sure if it applies, but many schools supplement the HC's "government" salary with one from the boosters or a media deal for his talk shows. Huff may get more than the contract, but I am not sure if that wasn't true here for him, or for Coach Gibson coming in?
You don't think we could have increased Huff's pay to the same amount?
Not sure if true, but some are reporting that we structured the offer so that Huff had to refuse it, so that he would leave. That's our right to do that.
To me it doesn't matter, if the President and AD don't want you there, and you don't want to be there, then it is a win-win for all. We get a coach we want, the new guy wants to be here, and Huff gets a raise to go somewhere else. The only people hurt are players that stayed, and fans expecting to see us in a bowl game. Our administration is playing the long game. That's not a right or wrong move because no one can predict the long term returns. I would be curious to see if they see this transition as a high risk, high return move or just where they are on both sides of the equation. Huff actually played a low risk, high return game. He gets a decent contract for a number of years, and if successful in turning a program around, can stay there or move up. If he doesn't he gets to bank a lot of dollars and go be an assistant somewhere else.
I have friends and acquaintances that are life-long assistant coaches at power schools. Thay have championship rings. They never wanted to be head coaches because of the pressure and the inability to actually coach players, versus lead a team.
To me it doesn't matter, if the President and AD don't want you there, and you don't want to be there, then it is a win-win for all. We get a coach we want, the new guy wants to be here, and Huff gets a raise to go somewhere else. The only people hurt are players that stayed, and fans expecting to see us in a bowl game. Our administration is playing the long game. That's not a right or wrong move because no one can predict the long term returns. I would be curious to see if they see this transition as a high risk, high return move or just where they are on both sides of the equation. Huff actually played a low risk, high return game. He gets a decent contract for a number of years, and if successful in turning a program around, can stay there or move up. If he doesn't he gets to bank a lot of dollars and go be an assistant somewhere else.
I have friends and acquaintances that are life-long assistant coaches at power schools. Thay have championship rings. They never wanted to be head coaches because of the pressure and the inability to actually coach players, versus lead a team.
No doubt.
But the hangup wasn't really the 50k difference. From Huff's POV, it was the terms of the buy-out.
From Smith's and Spears' POV, it was Huff's actions.
Does Huff's new contract with USM include the same no buyout clause that he apparently demanded with us?
I would think smaller schools simply can't afford to agree to such demands.
So being at 10 schools instead of 11 is somehow better?
Longest place he's been is wvu from 2001-2007.
His coaching path isn't much different.
But keep telling yourself other things 🤣
What reputation? He left a program and his players left it too...how's that an image problem?
Stop it.
Huff is G O N E. He was a .600 coach, and a sanctimonious, rude, condescending, guy who thought he was doing the world a favor by being here. He was looking for a job the day he got here. He never got even an interview anywhere else, and now is moving over, actually down, to a nothing program. He is G O N E.
Our new coach SAYS he wants to be here. I, for one, am giving him the benefit of the doubt. Now, if he does BP level things, and they waive intergenerational wealth at him, then I will wish him well, but until that happens, he says he wants to be here. Leaving all that aside, I am not going to play the "but Huff...." game. Huff didn't want to be here, and was a .600 coach. We are lucky to be rid of him.
Actually, all of the hate on Coach is born of the same place the Doc hate came from. WVU hate. The Appalachian mentality that nobody from here can actually be smart. And the petty jealousy that some kid from Van High and Glenville State makes more money than you.
Stop it and support Coach 100%.
Huff is G O N E. He was a .600 coach, and a sanctimonious, rude, condescending, guy who thought he was doing the world a favor by being here. He was looking for a job the day he got here. He never got even an interview anywhere else, and now is moving over, actually down, to a nothing program. He is G O N E.
Our new coach SAYS he wants to be here. I, for one, am giving him the benefit of the doubt. Now, if he does BP level things, and they waive intergenerational wealth at him, then I will wish him well, but until that happens, he says he wants to be here. Leaving all that aside, I am not going to play the "but Huff...." game. Huff didn't want to be here, and was a .600 coach. We are lucky to be rid of him.
Actually, all of the hate on Coach is born of the same place the Doc hate came from. WVU hate. The Appalachian mentality that nobody from here can actually be smart. And the petty jealousy that some kid from Van High and Glenville State makes more money than you.
Stop it and support Coach 100%.
Almost all new coaches say things like that. Our former women’s basketball coach said Marshall was her dream job. A few months later, she woke up from her dream and went to Tennessee.
Junior, if you are going to repeat the Spamite troll's rantings, at least get it right. (S)He, without any basis claimed I was a fan of New Mexico State. Not New Mexico. Gee, you are dumb.
How about this. I will give you the same challenge I gave the Spamite troll. Link to one post of mine about NMSU and my fandom for it, or STFU and admit that you, like the troll you try to ape, are a liar and a fool.
One exception.
Charles Huff, who, even his lapdog AD said was "looking for a job when I got here".
His buyout with USM is structured at a far lower amount than dollar for dollar. It’s been posted elsewhere.
If he wins 6 games in 2025 my guess is he’s running for the door.
In theory, but the big question is, why didn't his success this season serve as springboard into something, anything better than a 1-11, perennial bottom feeder?
He checked all the boxes this year, so there must be something about his resume, personality or contractual demands that other schools are saying thanks, but no thanks.
This was a really light year for open positions at the P4 level. UNC, WVU, Purdue and UCF are the 4. He picked a bad year. Two of those went the nostalgia approach and UNC wasn’t going to take him over Bill. That left Purdue, which hired a guy with back to back championship game appearances.
If he gets USM off the mat next year and there are 10-12 openings, someone will ignore the blemishes.
If he gets USM off the mat next year and there are 10-12 openings, someone will ignore the blemishes.
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