Just more fantasy fiction from modern day L. Ron Hubbard. No wonder greed loves him.
Matt Walsh re: Grammys and the Left
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That was news to me as well. I guess he was playing the long game with all of that Herd gear growing up, plus all of the arguments he made in favor of Marshall, his entire childhood and early adult life. No… It was Riflearm all along that made him a fan.
it really kind of puts in perspective how twisted and pathetic rifle really is.
Eh it's the Grammys. It's always going to be some big production. Remember Sturgill at the Grammys in 2017? I can promise you his concerts are nothing like that lol.
Maybe they should consider doing something different...
Grammy viewership by year 2000-2023 | Statista
In 2023, the Grammys had a viewership of 12.4 million, which marked an increase from the TV ratings of the two previous years.
www.statista.com
"In 2023, 12.4 million Americans watched the Grammy Awards ceremony. This figure marked an increase from the previous year but still represented the third-smallest TV audience in the history of the broadcast."
"The show's rankings last peaked in 2012, when an estimated 39 million people tuned in to watch Music's Biggest Night."
Yeah, and it was the third smallest viewing broadcast in its history. Guess I’m not the only one who doesn’t care anymore.
All TV programming faces the same problem: too many choices today.
I was never much into the Grammys. I haven't watched it since 2017, that's when Sturgill performed on it. I guess it is a show for the younger crowd, and that's the audience that REALLY uses all those other entertainment choices. Hell, I figure more people were playing video games than watching the Grammys.
I did look up the winners this year, mainly so I could yell at clouds. I was pretty surprised to see that Ozzy won one., as well as Willie Nelson! I guess some things are still alright lol.
I am sure they don't care how many view the Grammys these days. It seems they have an agenda most of the time. If they ever tried to appeal to everyone not just a slice of the viewing audience I would wager their viewership would double.
I read that Stevie Wonder and Chris Stapleton performed together...isn't that appealing to more than a slice?
All??? I keep warning you guys here that using absolutes like that are just setting yourself up for failure.
While there are more choices today and demographics of viewers (and non-viewers) are changing, the decline the Grammys has seen are very dramatic.
The NFL has backed off the woke stuff and viewers seem to be coming back.
yes but I think all of the other antics turns a large number of people away. so no matter how many ways you try to spin this the numbers are crashing
Are you really this dumb? The Grammys just had their highest TV audience over the last three years. The bigger aspect is that the Super Bowl has dropped since their peak of 2015 (115M viewers). Over the last dozen years, the Super Bowl has had their lowest viewer total (TV and streaming) each of the last four years.Grammys by comparison.
I'll say that again: Over the past 12 years, the Super Bowl's worst four years of viewership has been the last four. Trying to argue that Raoul's comment is false by claiming that the Super Bowl hasn't seen a significant drop is bogus. The Super Bowl, like the Grammys, has seen a significant drop since each of their peaks over the last dozen years, which also aligns with when most viewers started having far more options.
We get it: too many blacks. You don't have to mince words around here and hide your hood.
Well we know logic and statistics are just a couple of your many deficiencies as a person so please try to follow along...
Hmmm... I made a specific reference to the NFL, not the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl reference was offered as a contrast to the more extreme drop seen by the Grammys.
Let's look to more recent and relevant information pertaining to NFL viewership.
NFL TV Ratings page
See for yourself which NFL games are getting the most viewers with the NFL TV ratings for the 2022 regular season and playoffs.
www.sportsmediawatch.com
"Cowboys-49ers topped Divisional Round weekend with more than 45 million viewers, the second-largest audience on record for a Divisional Round game."
"The Bills’ return to the field delivered the largest audience of Week 18 and the largest CBS audience in the final week of an NFL season since 2011."
"FOX and ESPN/ABC both scored multi-year highs in Week 3 of the NFL season, with FOX scoring the largest Week 3 audience on any network since 2014 and ESPN/ABC drawing the top Week 3 Monday night audience since 2000. Meanwhile, Amazon held up reasonably well for the second edition of its Thursday Night Football package."
So it appears recent select NFL weeks and games have shown positive trends over the last few years.
NFL viewership 2010 - 2021
2022 is down slightly from 2021 but playoff games seem to be up this year.
So again ask yourself, "Are you really this dumb?"
You do realize streaming is included in the viewership statistics don't you?
Streaming Platform Ratings | Nielsen
Gain insights into the time viewers spend watching streaming video content, and on which platforms, using Nielsen’s panel for linear TV measurement.
www.nielsen.com
"We’re here to help. Nielsen Streaming Platform Ratings uses people-powered panels and proprietary metering technology to measure what content is streamed, the device used to stream (smart TVs, connected devices, video game consoles) and the streaming source application."
that's not true at all, I just don't care for it regardless of if the people on it are white, black or brown. Do you watch the Dove Awards? I doubt it. And if not why not? Probably, because you have no interest in Christian music. Do you watch the CMT Music Awards.I doubt it . Doesn't make you a racist or anything else now does it?
That attempt failed in the other thread for you. That ruins this claim, too. You try so hard to find anything that I do incorrectly, that you end up looking like a fool when you try making a claim that doesn't work out. Stop trying so hard and know your place on the board.
Moron, you posted a fvcking graph showing the ratings for the Super Bowl. You can't make much more of a specific reference than that, dumbass. This is what I mean: you're trying so hard to find an error, that you end up looking like a moron.
I enjoy so much when you get painted in a corner then you resort to your usual defense without teeth - the mindless name-calling...
So... Back up what you have posted or refute what I have without resorting to that name-calling. I know what the answer will be. It will be more name-calling because you can't. I understand that even though you can't...
Do I need to define what general means as well as what specific means?
I made a specific reference to Super Bowl viewership as a specific comparison to Grammys viewership.
I also made a general reference to the NFL and used a past tense verb (backed) to describe them abandoning the woke stuff and then used a present tense verb (coming) to describe viewers coming back. If I were making a specific reverence to last year's Super Bowl I would have used a past tense verb as in "more viewers tuned into last year's Super Bowl".
I then supported my assertion that viewers seem to be coming back (as in this year, not last year's Super Bowl) by offering some information that reflected just that.
Fire away with the names. I do wish you'd show some originality and creativity by coming up with some new ones. Frankly the ones you have been using are becoming a little too predictable...
You carved him up. Honestly, rifle is probably the most disappointing pretend rich/successful guy I've ever seen
Yeah, I thought that was odd.
And of course, I had already double-checked the Super Bowl numbers for what I was pretty sure was correct, because I knew someone would make some dumb point using the Super Bowl. I MEAN IT'S THE GODDAMN SUPER BOWL, peaked in 2015 so obviously something is going on.
I guess you missed the whole point about recent NFL viewership...
Peer pressure is tough isn't it? But hey, I'm sure rifle appreciates you posturing for him...
There are a lot of things going on. A lot of which is demographics as much as changing viewership habits. A friend of mine was a MLB umpire. He told me the average MLB viewer is a 59 year old white male. The younger group is not interested in baseball as well as seemingly sports in general. The 18-49 age group just doesn't seem to be as interested in sports or tv viewership in general as the previous generation.
Anecdotal evidence is college football and basketball games. It seems far fewer students go to games except for possibly some top-tier programs.
Money is part of the issue. When I went to UK the students were in the lower arena. Now season-ticket holders have those seats after paying large "facilities" and other fees.
BTW you do realize that since 2021 Nielsen has been including streaming in their numbers don't you?
Nielsen Combines Streaming Metrics Into Single Tool, Aiming To Head Off Skepticism Ahead Of Fall 2022 Milestone
Nielsen is signaling its seriousness about making strides in the measurement of streaming, given the increasing popularity of that way of viewing. The dominant measurement firm said it is streamlin…
deadline.com
You do realize that you are referring to number of viewers and not rating don't you?
The peak rating was 49.1 in 1982 compared to the 47.5 you referred to for in 2015.
In fact, from 1989 when it had a 39.0 rating to 2010-2017 when the Super Bowl had a string of ratings over 45 the Super Bowl averaged in the low 40's.
With the exception of the last two Super Bowls that dropped back into the upper 30s (during the time many viewers tuned out because of the political statements on the field), post 2017 ratings have been in the average range of the last 30+ years. But again I'm sure you knew that, right? After all the rest of us are stupid, right?
What I think is odd is that you think the loss of viewship in the Grammys, Oscar's, etc. is due to the following...
While that is true to a degree, it in no way explains what is contributing to the extreme drops from 2015-2022 for:
Grammys 25.3 to 9.6 -62.5%
Oscars 37.3 to 15.4 -58.7%
Compare these decreases to overall viewership decreases and I think these will be signicantly and dramatically higher.
Even Nascar whose viewership woes are widely known has only suffered a 24.6% decrease from 2015 (5.1 to 3.7).
Lastly back to my original general point about the NFL before you and rifle got so triggered and sidetracked by my specific reference to the Super Bowl.
From 2015 to 2022 the NFL average regular season viewership had decreased from 17.1 to 16.7, a decrease of 2.3%.
I also think it's rather odd that neither you nor he, two of the most self-proclaimed smartest people on this forum, can connect the dots and identify trends...
Go back and notice a comment I made about video games. It's not just watching Netflix. So many more options, indeed. That age group fits right in with the growth of that activity.
Yes.
No, just you.
Saw Sturgill play in KY a few years ago - effing great show. I can only imagine the energy in some of the bars he played on the way up.
I'd actually like to hear a collab between Dre & Stapleton. Be like a reverse Rick Rubin situation
This is great. Even though the Grammys number from last week has been almost immediately available, he chooses to not use that number, since it was about 25% higher than the year he wants to use.
If he did, it would put the Grammys at about a 50% drop since 2015. If you compare that to the Super Bowl, there has been about 22% drop since 2015. The difference is that the Super Bowl has seen a steady drop just about year-over-year, while the Grammys have seen significant increased viewership over the past two years.
And this is why you're a moron. You have the ability to compare two like-events: annual events that are the culmination of that industry's year. But instead, you want to compare a single event in one industry to about 300 events from another industry and draw a conclusion? That's moronic, moron.
If you want to look at the entire season of NFL viewership, you'd have to look at music consumption overall. Because if your theory is correct - so sick of music being liberalized and not just focusing on the music instead of always having to have a message - you would then be able to draw a link that people are also consuming less music because they're sick of the message.
The guy who doesn't know how to properly use a comma is trying to take grammar/spelling jabs?
Well no kidding Captain Obvious...
Meanwhile no mention as to why certain forms of entertainment, specifically awards shows, have shown much greater losses in viewership than others other than your earlier flippant comments... How convenient but never surprising...
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I could fill up multiple threads with these...
