Myrtle Beach Bowl w/ CUSA tie-in & 2 other bowls
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As a fan... I would rather go to Myrtle Beach, which is a, close, cheap trip, especially in the January offseason... Than the Bahamas, which 90-plus percent of our fan base cant afford.
That said, bowl games have jumped the shark. With 3 more games, unless some others drop off, teams with 5 wins will be bowl bound.
That said, bowl games have jumped the shark. With 3 more games, unless some others drop off, teams with 5 wins will be bowl bound.
They should follow Trumps policy with regulations. For every new bowl created, eliminate two. Bowl season has lost its appeal, and turned into a participation ribbon game for most.
All these bowls exist because people watch college football on Wednesdays in December. Whether there is anyone there or not hardly matters, nor does the relative quality of the teams.
What's interesting to me is the proliferation of big name schools having one-off neutral site OOC games at the beginning of the season. A lot of WVU fans I know skipped their meaningless bowl game against Utah to save money for the neutral site game against Tennessee this year.
What's interesting to me is the proliferation of big name schools having one-off neutral site OOC games at the beginning of the season. A lot of WVU fans I know skipped their meaningless bowl game against Utah to save money for the neutral site game against Tennessee this year.
Bowl attendance was down 23% in 2017. College football had its second biggest drop in attendance in 2017.
Even the SEC had an attendance drop last year.
Even the SEC had an attendance drop last year.
IMHO,
- Generally. If you think there are "too many bowls", then change the F***ing channel. Talk to a UTSA fan.
- Myrtle Beach. Fine. Nice easy trip for us and a lot more programs. Plenty of displaced/retired people from our area. Clearly the off-season, cheap rooms. Average temperature is only 56 that time of year, which beats Huntington but is not exactly Miami. Assume this is really at Coastal Carolina, which is not really Myrtle Beach but a trailer park town 8 miles inland. CCU has a TEAL colored astroturf.
- Chicago. The gimmick of "hey, lets wedge a football field into a baseball park" is stale. Yes, the Bears played there in the 60s, but since then changes to the place made it impossible to have goal posts in one endzone and the endzone ended at a brick wall with a few pads on it. Dangerous. Anyway it is just too cold. Bowls need to be in warm, or at least warmish, places or domes.
- Generally. If you think there are "too many bowls", then change the F***ing channel. Talk to a UTSA fan.
- Myrtle Beach. Fine. Nice easy trip for us and a lot more programs. Plenty of displaced/retired people from our area. Clearly the off-season, cheap rooms. Average temperature is only 56 that time of year, which beats Huntington but is not exactly Miami. Assume this is really at Coastal Carolina, which is not really Myrtle Beach but a trailer park town 8 miles inland. CCU has a TEAL colored astroturf.
- Chicago. The gimmick of "hey, lets wedge a football field into a baseball park" is stale. Yes, the Bears played there in the 60s, but since then changes to the place made it impossible to have goal posts in one endzone and the endzone ended at a brick wall with a few pads on it. Dangerous. Anyway it is just too cold. Bowls need to be in warm, or at least warmish, places or domes.
Geezus, how far have the expectations fallen if we have fans creaming themselves to go to MB and watch us play a bowl game against an SB or MAC team in a 15K seat stadium. LOL!
With the team Doc has, MB won't even be an option the next several years....we are loaded!
And they actually have a chance of beating Tenn. because The Vols are in a little disarray. EERS appear to be all O and not much D. I'll be sitting in The Smokey Mountain Brewery in Gatlinburg, cheering for the Vols.
I would assume WVU is a prohibitive favorite over UT. UT had a clusterf***ed off-season and has a first year coach. This will come just in time to replace the afterglow of beating Clemson (which won a whole 8 games vs D I that year) a half decade ago. That is part of Spamism, beat a "name team" in one of its off years and live off that as long as you can. Heck, they still talk about beating Oklahoma (a 6-6 Oklahoma) in 1980 whatever. "We beat Tennessee back in 18, the SEC is not so tough" will be the cry for years to come. Fogetting that UT in 18 will probably beat UTEP, ETSU, Charlotte, and maybe UK or Vandy.
I am shocked they want to add more games. We already have more than we need. Who in their right mind wants to go to Chi town to play a bowl game in December? Since 2003 we have gone from needing to add about 2-3 bowl games( 28 that year) so that deserving teams like the 2003 Herd squad get an extra game to this (43 games). In 1997 when we played in the Motor City Bowl there were 20 bowl games that year.
For that matter who want's to go to Yankee Stadium in late December? At least Detroit is inside. Boise is no prize either
I will NEVER understand why people whine & moan about bowl games. People kill me. You are excited about college football all year. Beginning of the season you’ll watch any and all games. Elon College vs San Filipe State. Yet owl season comes when it’s the best of all of college football and more football before it comes to a close and people start crying about football games and stomping their foot and saying they refuse to watch. Why? Seriously? WTF?
My thought is this. It is not because I don't like football. if I held your point of view I would suggest we expand the regular season another game. The point of a bowl game was to reward a team that had completed a great season with a post season game. We don't reward bad teams with post season in other sports unless they pull off an upset in the conference tourney. We certainly don't give out At large Invitations to teams with 15-15 records to play in the Big Dance. Adding additional bowl games will bring the number of post season teams to something like 65% of all 130 teams in D-! FB. Rewarding a 5-7 team waters down the significance of saying we played in a bowl last year. I mean seriously, at the current rate, they might as well play 65 bowls. For the record, I am in favor of having plenty of bowl games. Somewhere in the neighborhood of around 32 seems to be about peak.
This poses a question. Just when does owl season start? Surely, it doesn't occur the same time as bow season for deer, right?
Well, now its not. Now, with some exceptions 6-6 = bowl. So you liked it better as it was back in the MAC era when we had to WIN the conference to get any bowl? You would have been fine with the 1999 undefeated team, which was down 23-0 in the 3rd quarter, losing and, at 11-1 getting NOTHING?
No thank you.
Today, 6-6 = bowl. Great. And for the players, who (legally) get no money and whose regular season away trips are business like in and out deals, they get a nice swag bag of stuff and four or five days in (mostly) nice places where the hosts try to show them a good time. That is cool.
ESPN (which owns most of these minor bowls in house) apparently is willing to pay the freight. Players have a good time. At least some fans make it a part of their Christmas season routine. No animals are harmed. All is well.
Make you a deal. If you think Marshall, or anybody else, has a 6-6 of 7-5 year and does not "deserve" a bowl, I will personally show you how to change the channel on your TV and ignore the whole matter.
As to "rewarding bad team in other sports" of course they do. The NCAA cartel stock the basketball tournament with 8th or 9th place loser teams from the name conferences.
I think we all realize that ESPN is driving the bus on there being so many bowls... But as far as the merit of the teams getting into the bowls, it's gotten ridiculous. I know its cool to give everyone a participation medal and take them to Dairy Queen after they get beat 20-0 to end a winless Little League season, but college football ain't Little League. These are adults (18-22) playing a game that they are desperately trying to win.
The best way to "fix" the system would be for any team that finishes the season 7-5 or better to go to a bowl game (regardless of conference). Flat line, easy to understand, 7 wins gets you a ticket somewhere, whether you are USC or UTSA.
With these new bowls there will be 5-7 teams getting invites. A nice participation medal for a "great" season... I'm looking forward to the promos – "Tune in to the Tempe Arizona Chamber of Commerce Classic sponsored by Chalula Hot Sauce to see Wyoming (6-6) do battle with the red-hot Vanderbilt Commodores (5-7). Kickoff is set for 2 a.m. eastern, right here on ESPN."
I'm loving those red-hot Commodores finishing up their season on a one game winning streak over a 2-10
Kentucky Wildcat squad.
I can see it now - "Buy your MB Bowl tix and get a coupon for a free Sand Dollar at any participating Wings or Eagles."
Have to say - the greatest T shirt I ever saw was at an Eagles in MB years ago - It said -
"Big Johnsons Bar and Casino - Liquor in the Front, Poker in the Back!" Awesome!
Have to say - the greatest T shirt I ever saw was at an Eagles in MB years ago - It said -
"Big Johnsons Bar and Casino - Liquor in the Front, Poker in the Back!" Awesome!
I see where you’re trying to compare postseasons but you can’t really compare the NCAA tourney or any postseason because those post seasons are actually about crowning a champion. Bowl games are essentially post season exhibition games that count on the win/loss record & that’s it. Well unless you’re counting the College Football “Playoff” and the 2 bowls involved each year.
If games don’t really mean anything then it’s not as if it impacts the other games as they have just as much meaning as they did regardless of how many other teams are playing a similiar exhibition.
So you only watch games during the regular season that involve teams with winning records?
Chicago in December? I wouldn't sit through a game in that weather even for Nebraska 1995 vs Miami 2001.
I just know as a fan, when I go to a bowl game I want it to be in a sunny warm place in December. That is why I pretty much only go to bowl games in Florida anymore. I would love Boca Bowl every year.
I would like to see a myrtle beach bowl replace the Bahamas bowl, keep fan interest with possibility of attendance. Bahamas basically is a no go for 99% of the fans. Its still fairly warm, still get the beach and palms. Not much not to like other than just another very low bowl.
I sat through a backyard brawl at Heinz Field when I was a student at Pitt when it was 0 degrees outside. My feet still hurt from that.
You have a big time sponsor teamed with a world-class sporting organization and the fans can experience the endless other tourism offerings in NYC before and after the game. Sounds better than going to a bowl game in Boca Raton or Mobile.
Myrtle Beach is so overrated that it isn't funny. IF another bowl game or three are going to be added, I'd rather see Las Vegas or San Diego or Miami get a second game before one comes to Myrtle Beach/Conway or Chicago.
A few corrections: Clemson was the ACC champion in 2011 and finished 10-3. Hardly an "off" year. It was 1982 when WVU beat Oklahoma in Norman; OU was ranked #9 at the time, but finished a disappointing 7-4 that year (not 6-6). And the win against OU that "they still talk about" was the 2008 Fiesta Bowl win by 20 points over the 3rd-ranked Big XII champions. The SEC win that WVU brags about was the 2006 Sugar Bowl win over the 8th-ranked SEC champion Georgia Bulldogs.
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Myrtle Beach, the #5 crime capital in America! Huntington is NOT in the top 25. Charleston, WV is #21 I believe
The total fixation of the non-alumni Spamites upon us knows no end.
Unique in all of college sports.
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