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And they actually have a chance of beating Tenn. because The Vols are in a little disarray. EERS appear to be all O and not much D. I'll be sitting in The Smokey Mountain Brewery in Gatlinburg, cheering for the Vols.All these bowls exist because people watch college football on Wednesdays in December. Whether there is anyone there or not hardly matters, nor does the relative quality of the teams.
What's interesting to me is the proliferation of big name schools having one-off neutral site OOC games at the beginning of the season. A lot of WVU fans I know skippedtain their meaningless bowl game against Utah to save money for the neutral site game against Tennessee this year.
And they actually have a chance of beating Tenn. because The Vols are in a little disarray. EERS appear to be all O and not much D. I'll be sitting in The Smokey Mountain Brewery in Gatlinburg, cheering for the Vols.
For that matter who want's to go to Yankee Stadium in late December? At least Detroit is inside. Boise is no prize eitherI am shocked they want to add more games. We already have more than we need. Who in their right mind wants to go to Chi town to play a bowl game in December? Since 2003 we have gone from needing to add about 2-3 bowl games( 28 that year) so that deserving teams like the 2003 Herd squad get an extra game to this (43 games). In 1997 when we played in the Motor City Bowl there were 20 bowl games that year.
My thought is this. It is not because I don't like football. if I held your point of view I would suggest we expand the regular season another game. The point of a bowl game was to reward a team that had completed a great season with a post season game. We don't reward bad teams with post season in other sports unless they pull off an upset in the conference tourney. We certainly don't give out At large Invitations to teams with 15-15 records to play in the Big Dance. Adding additional bowl games will bring the number of post season teams to something like 65% of all 130 teams in D-! FB. Rewarding a 5-7 team waters down the significance of saying we played in a bowl last year. I mean seriously, at the current rate, they might as well play 65 bowls. For the record, I am in favor of having plenty of bowl games. Somewhere in the neighborhood of around 32 seems to be about peak.I will NEVER understand why people whine & moan about bowl games. People kill me. You are excited about college football all year. Beginning of the season you’ll watch any and all games. Elon College vs San Filipe State. Yet owl season comes when it’s the best of all of college football and more football before it comes to a close and people start crying about football games and stomping their foot and saying they refuse to watch. Why? Seriously? WTF?
This poses a question. Just when does owl season start? Surely, it doesn't occur the same time as bow season for deer, right?Yet owl season comes when it’s the best of all of college football
The point of a bowl game was to reward a team that had completed a great season with a post season game. We don't reward bad teams with post season in other sports.
OMG you obviously didn't read my post. Enough said.Well, now its not. Now, with some exceptions 6-6 = bowl. So you liked it better as it was back in the MAC era when we had to WIN the conference to get any bowl? You would have been fine with the 1999 undefeated team, which was down 23-0 in the 3rd quarter, losing and, at 11-1 getting NOTHING?
No thank you.
Today, 6-6 = bowl. Great. And for the players, who (legally) get no money and whose regular season away trips are business like in and out deals, they get a nice swag bag of stuff and four or five days in (mostly) nice places where the hosts try to show them a good time. That is cool.
ESPN (which owns most of these minor bowls in house) apparently is willing to pay the freight. Players have a good time. At least some fans make it a part of their Christmas season routine. No animals are harmed. All is well.
Make you a deal. If you think Marshall, or anybody else, has a 6-6 of 7-5 year and does not "deserve" a bowl, I will personally show you how to change the channel on your TV and ignore the whole matter.
As to "rewarding bad team in other sports" of course they do. The NCAA cartel stock the basketball tournament with 8th or 9th place loser teams from the name conferences.
October 20th. At 2:30 pmThis poses a question. Just when does owl season start? Surely, it doesn't occur the same time as bow season for deer, right?
Well, now its not. Now, with some exceptions 6-6 = bowl. So you liked it better as it was back in the MAC era when we had to WIN the conference to get any bowl? You would have been fine with the 1999 undefeated team, which was down 23-0 in the 3rd quarter, losing and, at 11-1 getting NOTHING?
No thank you.
Today, 6-6 = bowl. Great. And for the players, who (legally) get no money and whose regular season away trips are business like in and out deals, they get a nice swag bag of stuff and four or five days in (mostly) nice places where the hosts try to show them a good time. That is cool.
ESPN (which owns most of these minor bowls in house) apparently is willing to pay the freight. Players have a good time. At least some fans make it a part of their Christmas season routine. No animals are harmed. All is well.
Make you a deal. If you think Marshall, or anybody else, has a 6-6 of 7-5 year and does not "deserve" a bowl, I will personally show you how to change the channel on your TV and ignore the whole matter.
As to "rewarding bad team in other sports" of course they do. The NCAA cartel stock the basketball tournament with 8th or 9th place loser teams from the name conferences.
I'm in if they are handing out Chalula.I think we all realize that ESPN is driving the bus on there being so many bowls... But as far as the merit of the teams getting into the bowls, it's gotten ridiculous. I know its cool to give everyone a participation medal and take them to Dairy Queen after they get beat 20-0 to end a winless Little League season, but college football ain't Little League. These are adults (18-22) playing a game that they are desperately trying to win.
The best way to "fix" the system would be for any team that finishes the season 7-5 or better to go to a bowl game (regardless of conference). Flat line, easy to understand, 7 wins gets you a ticket somewhere, whether you are USC or UTSA.
With these new bowls there will be 5-7 teams getting invites. A nice participation medal for a "great" season... I'm looking forward to the promos – "Tune in to the Tempe Arizona Chamber of Commerce Classic sponsored by Chalula Hot Sauce to see Wyoming (6-6) do battle with the red-hot Vanderbilt Commodores (5-7). Kickoff is set for 2 a.m. eastern, right here on ESPN."
I'm loving those red-hot Commodores finishing up their season on a one game winning streak over a 2-10I think we all realize that ESPN is driving the bus on there being so many bowls... But as far as the merit of the teams getting into the bowls, it's gotten ridiculous. I know its cool to give everyone a participation medal and take them to Dairy Queen after they get beat 20-0 to end a winless Little League season, but college football ain't Little League. These are adults (18-22) playing a game that they are desperately trying to win.
The best way to "fix" the system would be for any team that finishes the season 7-5 or better to go to a bowl game (regardless of conference). Flat line, easy to understand, 7 wins gets you a ticket somewhere, whether you are USC or UTSA.
With these new bowls there will be 5-7 teams getting invites. A nice participation medal for a "great" season... I'm looking forward to the promos – "Tune in to the Tempe Arizona Chamber of Commerce Classic sponsored by Chalula Hot Sauce to see Wyoming (6-6) do battle with the red-hot Vanderbilt Commodores (5-7). Kickoff is set for 2 a.m. eastern, right here on ESPN."
My thought is this. It is not because I don't like football. if I held your point of view I would suggest we expand the regular season another game. The point of a bowl game was to reward a team that had completed a great season with a post season game. We don't reward bad teams with post season in other sports unless they pull off an upset in the conference tourney. We certainly don't give out At large Invitations to teams with 15-15 records to play in the Big Dance. Adding additional bowl games will bring the number of post season teams to something like 65% of all 130 teams in D-! FB. Rewarding a 5-7 team waters down the significance of saying we played in a bowl last year. I mean seriously, at the current rate, they might as well play 65 bowls. For the record, I am in favor of having plenty of bowl games. Somewhere in the neighborhood of around 32 seems to be about peak.
This poses a question. Just when does owl season start? Surely, it doesn't occur the same time as bow season for deer, right?
I think we all realize that ESPN is driving the bus on there being so many bowls... But as far as the merit of the teams getting into the bowls, it's gotten ridiculous. I know its cool to give everyone a participation medal and take them to Dairy Queen after they get beat 20-0 to end a winless Little League season, but college football ain't Little League. These are adults (18-22) playing a game that they are desperately trying to win.
The best way to "fix" the system would be for any team that finishes the season 7-5 or better to go to a bowl game (regardless of conference). Flat line, easy to understand, 7 wins gets you a ticket somewhere, whether you are USC or UTSA.
With these new bowls there will be 5-7 teams getting invites. A nice participation medal for a "great" season... I'm looking forward to the promos – "Tune in to the Tempe Arizona Chamber of Commerce Classic sponsored by Chalula Hot Sauce to see Wyoming (6-6) do battle with the red-hot Vanderbilt Commodores (5-7). Kickoff is set for 2 a.m. eastern, right here on ESPN."
For that matter who want's to go to Yankee Stadium in late December? At least Detroit is inside. Boise is no prize either
A few corrections: Clemson was the ACC champion in 2011 and finished 10-3. Hardly an "off" year. It was 1982 when WVU beat Oklahoma in Norman; OU was ranked #9 at the time, but finished a disappointing 7-4 that year (not 6-6). And the win against OU that "they still talk about" was the 2008 Fiesta Bowl win by 20 points over the 3rd-ranked Big XII champions. The SEC win that WVU brags about was the 2006 Sugar Bowl win over the 8th-ranked SEC champion Georgia Bulldogs.I would assume WVU is a prohibitive favorite over UT. UT had a clusterf***ed off-season and has a first year coach. This will come just in time to replace the afterglow of beating Clemson (which won a whole 8 games vs D I that year) a half decade ago. That is part of Spamism, beat a "name team" in one of its off years and live off that as long as you can. Heck, they still talk about beating Oklahoma (a 6-6 Oklahoma) in 1980 whatever. "We beat Tennessee back in 18, the SEC is not so tough" will be the cry for years to come. Fogetting that UT in 18 will probably beat UTEP, ETSU, Charlotte, and maybe UK or Vandy.
A few corrections: Clemson was the ACC champion in 2011 and finished 10-3. Hardly an "off" year. It was 1982 when WVU beat Oklahoma in Norman; OU was ranked #9 at the time, but finished a disappointing 7-4 that year (not 6-6). And the win against OU that "they still talk about" was the 2008 Fiesta Bowl win by 20 points over the 3rd-ranked Big XII champions. The SEC win that WVU brags about was the 2006 Sugar Bowl win over the 8th-ranked SEC champion Georgia Bulldogs.
Myrtle Beach, the #5 crime capital in America! Huntington is NOT in the top 25. Charleston, WV is #21 I believeMyrtle Beach is so overrated that it isn't funny. IF another bowl game or three are going to be added, I'd rather see Las Vegas or San Diego or Miami get a second game before one comes to Myrtle Beach/Conway or Chicago.
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