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Nancy Pelosi's Husband Beaten With Hammer During Home Invasion

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THere is a cover up of some sort. They keep going back and forth on the story. Doesn't add up.
 
Partisan spin is blaming Fox/Alex Jones/etc for riling up the crazies. It isn’t partisan to recognize what actually occurred here.

Hmmm... Kind of like this???

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Accused Pelosi attacker David DePape spread QAnon, other far-right, bigoted conspiracies​

 
Or. Or. Or…. You all don’t get caught up in he said/she said by social media and just it play out in the end… then make comments after it’s settled. Everyone, including the media, takes one nugget of info and tries to turn it into a goldmine of information.
I don’t have Facebook, twitter, or any other platform… which means I don’t get lost in weird theories and start blaming another political party.
Everyone just needs a little more chill.
 
No, you can’t just throw a ton of random shit out there and say “welp, who knows what’s true!” when the only reason there is any confusion is the random horseshit that’s been thrown out.

It looks like it’s what it looks like. A crazy guy got all riled up and decided he wanted to go take a hammer to Nancy Pelosi. Literally all of the facts line up with this version of events.
you didn't think that through very well before posting, did you? "you can't just throw . . . random shit out there", then you proceed to throw random shit out there.
 
Literally yes that’s what I was calling partisan.
That dude was a homo left winger that somehow got into Pelosi's house and the San Fran police are changing the stories. Or being talked to about it.

Paul Pelosi is one of those guys that trouble seems to find . Just a string of bad luck.
 
Will you rubes believe anything?
Pretty much. A global blood drinking Satanist pedo cabal ran out of a pizza shop? Hell yeah!
Accused Pelosi attacker David DePape spread QAnon, other far-right, bigoted conspiracies
Maybe Facebook is part of the coverup, by deleting his profile with all that Q and election denying shit on it!

Seriously, there's nothing suspicious about a paranoid schizophrenic picking up on any popular conspiracy and running with it, or coming up with their own for that matter. Doesn't matter if he was a leftie before, there's nothing logical about formal thought disorders. And unfortunately, there is nothing new about such a person wanting to kill a prominent politician...John Hinkley Jr anyone?
 
Pretty much. A global blood drinking Satanist pedo cabal ran out of a pizza shop? Hell yeah!

Maybe Facebook is part of the coverup, by deleting his profile with all that Q and election denying shit on it!

Seriously, there's nothing suspicious about a paranoid schizophrenic picking up on any popular conspiracy and running with it, or coming up with their own for that matter. Doesn't matter if he was a leftie before, there's nothing logical about formal thought disorders. And unfortunately, there is nothing new about such a person wanting to kill a prominent politician...John Hinkley Jr anyone?
Yehh the San Fran cops nor other law enforcement would get a talking to by the most prominent figure in California politics either would they? Oh, the Speaker of the House.

Funmy how all those damn reports are changing now.

Just like the DUI thing.
 
Yehh the San Fran cops nor other law enforcement would get a talking to by the most prominent figure in California politics either would they? Oh, the Speaker of the House.

Funmy how all those damn reports are changing now.

Just like the DUI thing.
Nothing is changing. People are just throwing batshit conspiracy theories out there and then when they get disproven saying “well how can we know!?”
 
Pretty much. A global blood drinking Satanist pedo cabal ran out of a pizza shop? Hell yeah!

Funny that yet again you as a "libertarian" would sid with such a partisan liberal...🥱

BTW I told a guy about Epstein well before he became mainstream news that he would me arrested and would commit suicide in jail. Coincidence or conspiracy? Neither - it was a safe statement to make as it turned out. The guy USED to be a Democrat...

Maybe Facebook is part of the coverup, by deleting his profile with all that Q and election denying shit on it!

So the conspiracy denier is promoting a conspiracy???

Seriously, there's nothing suspicious about a paranoid schizophrenic picking up on any popular conspiracy and running with it, or coming up with their own for that matter. Doesn't matter if he was a leftie before, there's nothing logical about formal thought disorders. And unfortunately, there is nothing new about such a person wanting to kill a prominent politician...John Hinkley Jr anyone?

One thing is liberals and "libertarians" don't have a sense of humor about anything. That's why they can't come up with any funny memes and don't appreciate ones that are funny...

I don't necessarily believe Pelosi had a gay lover there but it wouldn't surprise me if he did. After all, it is California... It does make for a good laugh at times and there has been a precedent for this in the recent past...


You say it doesn't matter that he was a leftie before but you just happen to bring up Q and election denying... You just contradicted yourself again.

You also applauded a guy attacking Rand Paul but this is somehow different??? Other than the media saying one wasn't a political assault but are actively trying to paint the Pelosi attacker as a RWNJ???

There are crazies (right and left) in the world and emptying sanitariums didn't help any (this is a topic for another day). You don't think there has been any spin involved since the initial media reports were issued? Not all of the revisions have been due to more information becoming available...

I hope Pelosi is not seriously hurt but the recent media reports say he was struck with the hammer AFTER the police got there. For all the time to pass for the police to get there and Pelosi is struck in their presence seems a little odd...
 
Nothing is changing. People are just throwing batshit conspiracy theories out there and then when they get disproven saying “well how can we know!?”

You don't think there has been any damage control and spin going on?

The initial media reports, I believe chiefly from the LA Times, gave a lot of fodder for these conspiracy theories to gain traction. Now they are being changed but the damage is done.

And conspiracy theories are not unique to one side or the other. One just needs to look at the attempts to portray DePape as a RWNJ...
 
You don't think there has been any damage control and spin going on?

The initial media reports, I believe chiefly from the LA Times, gave a lot of fodder for these conspiracy theories to gain traction. Now they are being changed but the damage is done.

And conspiracy theories are not unique to one side or the other. One just needs to look at the attempts to portray DePape as a RWNJ...
The spin I think has been happening has been trying to pin a particular political ideology on a schizophrenic homeless nudist crazy person.

I don’t think the facts of what happened in the house are really in question or that initial reports were any more inaccurate than they always are for breaking news stories. The only thing I see is that some outlets misunderstood the police saying they didn’t know which of the two people in the house opened the door to mean that an unknown third person opened the door. It’s very easy to see how that misunderstanding happened and nothing makes sense if there was actually a third person.
 
The spin I think has been happening has been trying to pin a particular political ideology on a schizophrenic homeless nudist crazy person.

I don’t think the facts of what happened in the house are really in question or that initial reports were any more inaccurate than they always are for breaking news stories. The only thing I see is that some outlets misunderstood the police saying they didn’t know which of the two people in the house opened the door to mean that an unknown third person opened the door. It’s very easy to see how that misunderstanding happened and nothing makes sense if there was actually a third person.

In all honesty I haven't been following the news reports or the spin but do realize initial reports are often wrong - sometimes extremely wrong... But spin does exist.

I have said many times before there are crazies in the world and words have meanings and intent and can be used to trigger and weaponize these crazies. There is no rationale or reason to their actions and motives.

Interesting though that Pelosi wasn't attacked until the police were in the house though but these are the times we live in.
 
In all honesty I haven't been following the news reports or the spin but do realize initial reports are often wrong - sometimes extremely wrong... But spin does exist.

I have said many times before there are crazies in the world and words have meanings and intent and can be used to trigger and weaponize these crazies. There is no rationale or reason to their actions and motives.

Interesting though that Pelosi wasn't attacked until the police were in the house though but these are the times we live in.
It makes sense though. The guy wanted Nancy, not Paul. Paul just happened to be there. He had no reason to take the hammer to Paul until it became obvious he wasn’t going to get a shot at Nancy since the police had arrived.
 
It makes sense though. The guy wanted Nancy, not Paul. Paul just happened to be there. He had no reason to take the hammer to Paul until it became obvious he wasn’t going to get a shot at Nancy since the police had arrived.

There is nothing that makes sense about DePape or the situation...

And he had no reason to take the hammer to anyone...
 
There is nothing that makes sense about DePape or the situation...

And he had no reason to take the hammer to anyone...
He’s crazy and wanted to “send a message.” Go read his statement, he says exactly what he wanted to do.


He must be a ninja to get past all that security. Either that or you are an idiot
Literally Alex Jones insane. You’ve lost your mind.
 
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In a week, this will all be old news. Paul will recover, Nancy will lose her House leadership role and eventually become the Ambassador to Italy.
The poor crazy attacker will spend the rest of his life in prison. He should have attacker a 7-11 clerk with that hammer. That way he would already be out of jail and sitting home drinking a slushee.
 
He’s crazy and wanted to “send a message.” Go read his statement, he says exactly what he wanted to do.

And how does that make sense???

You said the manner in which he executed his plan makes sense - i.e. he didn't attack Paul until he determined he couldn't attack Nancy so he then decided to attack Paul...

How does that make sense??? Must be a California thing because I think it's all crazy and there is no method to his madness...
 
And how does that make sense???

You said the manner in which he executed his plan makes sense - i.e. he didn't attack Paul until he determined he couldn't attack Nancy so he then decided to attack Paul...

How does that make sense??? Must be a California thing because I think it's all crazy and there is no method to his madness...
Well he’s crazy so you have to factor that in. But it’s not that complicated and I’m not sure what you’re not getting.

His target is Nancy. In crazy person logic he thinks breaking her kneecaps until she tells “the truth” about vaccinations etc etc will send some sort of message to the rest of congress. This is obviously batshit but the person who did it is batshit.

He breaks into the house and finds Paul, who’d been asleep, who he doesn’t give a shit about. He wants Nancy because nobody cares if he kneecaps a representative’s husband.

So his plan is still to wait for Nancy and do his thing. But Paul manages to make a call to 911 by saying he’s got to go to the bathroom, where luckily his phone was charging. He makes the call and the police show up.

So now our crazy perp has the cops coming inside and his plan is ruined. He lashes out at the only person nearby, Paul. He even said in his statement something to the effect of Paul having to take Nancy’s “punishment.”

The more you all push insane conspiracy theories the more I wonder if you’re afraid the right wing media just might’ve pushed this nutterbar over the edge and you’re looking for an out.
 
No, you can’t just throw a ton of random shit out there and say “welp, who knows what’s true!” when the only reason there is any confusion is the random horseshit that’s been thrown out.

It looks like it’s what it looks like. A crazy guy got all riled up and decided he wanted to go take a hammer to Nancy Pelosi. Literally all of the facts line up with this version of events.



Partisan spin is blaming Fox/Alex Jones/etc for riling up the crazies. It isn’t partisan to recognize what actually occurred here.

It is positively batshit that you all are giving any run at all to the “gay lovers” slander.
Again, that was what was actually being reported by reputable news outlets. Hell, Meet the Press even teased information about a third person in the home.
I’ve said all along it’s a very weird story. I even offered up a pretty reasonable explanation for the “wellness” visit & Pelosi calling him a friend.
But when I say “weird” I also mean things in the story weren’t adding up.
All this can very easily be dispelled if they’d release the video of the break in.
 
It is some weird stuff and Nancy and her cronies got to the local cops and authorities to do damage control. Whatever it is weird. Then they are going to spin that this guy is a right wing nut job, not one of their own nut jobs. Or, Paul picked up a mentally challenged guy to play hide the salami with. Whatever, Nancy is changing the narrative.
 
Again, that was what was actually being reported by reputable news outlets. Hell, Meet the Press even teased information about a third person in the home.
I’ve said all along it’s a very weird story. I even offered up a pretty reasonable explanation for the “wellness” visit & Pelosi calling him a friend.
But when I say “weird” I also mean things in the story weren’t adding up.
All this can very easily be dispelled if they’d release the video of the break in.
Has it been confirmed there is video of the break in? There’s body cam video from the cops that shows a broken glass door. That’s pretty damn good evidence.

I haven’t been able to find a transcript of the call or anyone other than you saying he called him a friend, but it’s possible he did. The call was made with a dude with a hammer and some zip ties who was looking for his wife there, so speaking indirectly or in a coded way would make a lot of sense.
 
It is some weird stuff and Nancy and her cronies got to the local cops and authorities to do damage control. Whatever it is weird. Then they are going to spin that this guy is a right wing nut job, not one of their own nut jobs. Or, Paul picked up a mentally challenged guy to play hide the salami with. Whatever, Nancy is changing the narrative.
You’re a ****ing idiot.
 
Has it been confirmed there is video of the break in? There’s body cam video from the cops that shows a broken glass door. That’s pretty damn good evidence.

I haven’t been able to find a transcript of the call or anyone other than you saying he called him a friend, but it’s possible he did. The call was made with a dude with a hammer and some zip ties who was looking for his wife there, so speaking indirectly or in a coded way would make a lot of sense.
You don’t think there’s security video at the speaker of the house’s home?
 
Funmy how all those damn reports are changing now.
You mean one bad report from a source no where near California?
I have not heard that he worshiped Satan, drank blood, or owned a pizza joint.
So the conspiracy denier is promoting a conspiracy???
Uh, I'm ridiculing you fvcks.
That's why they can't come up with any funny memes and don't appreciate ones that are funny...
There's nothing funny about some nut trying to murder an old man.
You also applauded a guy attacking Rand Paul
If he blew his clippings in my yard and either verbally or symbolically told me to fvck off, I'd beat his ass too. You know who else would? Murox. Murox takes pride in his yard...as he should, it's fabulous.
but are actively trying to paint the Pelosi attacker as a RWNJ???
I am not painting shit. I'm telling you he's likely a paranoid schizo. IDGAF what his politics are unless he is sane, and from what has been reported from those who know him, he is not.
There are crazies (right and left) in the world and emptying sanitariums didn't help any (this is a topic for another day).
No shit.

What I am emphasizing is there is no right or left with that level of mental illness. It's some sad shit, really, the things that go through someone's mind. Obviously this dude is dangerous and needs to be off the streets, but I have some empathy for him.

For all the time to pass for the police to get there and Pelosi is struck in their presence seems a little odd...
Nah. As Hokies noted, he was on a mission, and Mr. Pelosi was not the mission. Dude got pissed the po-po ruined his mission. He's have hit the cops too if he could have.
And how does that make sense???
It makes sense when you look at it through the lens of crazy.

I have an individual on my case load that is paranoid schizo. When her meds are off, she says things that make no sense...but by God, she believes it to be true, and through that lens I have to act like it makes sense to me to communicate with her and reassure her she is safe. Like I said, it's some sad shit really.
 
Has it been confirmed there is video of the break in? There’s body cam video from the cops that shows a broken glass door. That’s pretty damn good evidence.

I haven’t been able to find a transcript of the call or anyone other than you saying he called him a friend, but it’s possible he did. The call was made with a dude with a hammer and some zip ties who was looking for his wife there, so speaking indirectly or in a coded way would make a lot of sense.
There's no way there's not footage of the break-in. Absolutely no way. Hell, a Ring cam would have some footage, & that's the average man's system. They've stolen millions & millions through insider trading, of course they're going to have better security. Plus, that home got vandalized just last year when someone sprayed fake blood, wrote on the home, & left a pig's head in the driveway. An ABC affiliate reported on the vandalism & noted that "security cameras surround the home." There has to be a clip showing his direction approaching the home & him breaking into the back door. That's the story as reported right now - that he broke the glass on the back door & broke in. They have a good idea what time he broke in, too.
 
On scanner data Pelosi referred to the guy as a friend.

They guy, by his neighbors, referred to him as a nudist drug abuser. In San Fran.

But, now the left wing wants to call this guy a right winger.

Don't add up.
 
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The DA is not releasing the 911 call which has been done plenty of times.
 
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