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New Conference for the Herd

Feb 27, 2015
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The American South Conference

EAST
Marshall (WV)
Appalachian State (NC)
Georgia Southern (GA)
Florida Atlantic (FL)
Old Dominion (VA)
Coastal Carolina or Citadel (SC)

WEST
Southern Miss (MS)
La Tech (LA)
Western Kentucky (KY)
MTSU (TN)
Arkansas State (AR)
Troy (AL)

This conference puts butts in seats for football game and makes geographic sense.

12 schools from 12 States.


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The American South Conference

EAST
Marshall (WV)
Appalachian State (NC)
Georgia Southern (GA)
Florida Atlantic (FL)
Old Dominion (VA)
Coastal Carolina or Citadel (SC)

WEST
Southern Miss (MS)
La Tech (LA)
Western Kentucky (KY)
MTSU (TN)
Arkansas State (AR)
Troy (AL)

This conference puts butts in seats for football game and makes geographic sense.

12 schools from 12 States.


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It's ok, but can't you swap someone else out for CC or Citadel?
 
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I like it, but if you are going to take Coastal you might as well keep Charlotte. Coastal is much smaller, much more budget constrained, and while the beach is nice, Charlotte is a better location (and drive for us).

I know it messes with your 12 states, but Coastal is further away from their potential than Charlotte is.
 
If we can't go to AAC, then I say this makes great sense. Coastal is light years ahead of Charlotte right now in football, and a trip to Ft Lauderdale or Myrtle Beach each year sounds good to me. This would solve a lot of budget constraints and give us three beach destinations, a trip to the mountains every other year, and a good re-kindling of rivalrys with GaSo and Appy State. It wouldn't hurt us in recruiting as we gain nothing from playing in TX, we've got one Texas player right now and I'm pretty sure he's a senior.
 
You wouldn't change Appy State and Ga Southern for WKU and MTSU in our division; and then Coastal for Charlotte? That's the only thing I see here; and then you also still get to play WKU, MTSU and USM frequently. We'd loose no national perception and have greater crowds in our stadium for games; plus three beach destinations.

For me personally, it'd be a lot more travel as WKU and MTSU are a lot closer that APPY and GaSouthern; but I'd still take the trade considering we'd still play them very often.
 
Nice to imagine what might or could be. However, wonder what the teams listed would think?
 
Fever is right, have to take UAB over Troy.

The problem with Costal is that they have a very small enrollment and are struggling financially. Took them forever to get the state to approve their stadium expansion (currently only seats around 9,500). Their ticket sale and donation revenue are pathetic and less than 20% of what Charlotte generates. I'm not sure they will be able to stick at the FBS level from a financial standpoint.

For those saying this is just another CUSA, I would disagree. You are essentially taking all the good teams from CUSA and the Belt. You are getting away from the Texas schools and the Texas bias from the home office. Headquarter the conference in Charlotte, Nashville or Birmingham - or even Atlanta, and we are much better off.

Right now we have UNT, UTSA, Rice, FAU, FIU and Charlotte that are sub 150 Sagarin teams. This gets rid of 4 of those six and replaces them with teams that rank higher.
 
I would hate adding Ga Southern, App State or Coastal. I would prefer what we have now to that alignment. I'm going to Denton tomorrow and I'm excited about it. I can't wait for a trip to San Antonio and looking forward to another trip to El Paso. These are much better destinations than Statesboro and Boone IMO. Also how can you leave out UAB?
 
Enjoy Herdmeister. Glad you enjoy going to Denton, San Antonio, and El Paso. Great if you live near those locations. However, for those of us residing in Huntington, Boone, Statesboro, and Myrtle Beach are closer and affordable trips. I give you San Antonio - nice place to visit especially the river walk. As for travel I will take the other places.
 
Drop Coastal and put Western in the East and add UAB to the West.

Fellas, we aren't moving anytime soon, unless there is a huge upheaval and the dominoes start falling dramatically.
 
As to CCU. Exploding population in Myrtle Beach. Less than 70 K 40 years ago, today over 310K. Many of those retirees with no particular allegance to any sports team, at least not at this level, and, priced right and marketed well, you could build up a loyality. I don't know where anyone gets that the school is "struggling financially" either in its athletic budget or over-all. School was 4K 25 years ago, well over 10K today. Football stadium less than 10 years old, being expanded. Awsome baseball park. Four year old basketball arena, albeit too small Football coach is a billionaire (retired stock broker, working for free). Student body is much more traditional aged, sports oriented group.

Contrasted to UNCC? Charlotte is a big city, and there are 100 other things to do every day. Student body is larger, yes, but older too. Lots of "non-traditional" and commuter students who don't care much about the sports teams. I'm tired of hearing about UNCC's "potential". It is not there.

As to the Alabama schools, if the UA trustees present me with a signed and notarized statement countersigned by Nick Saban and Paul Feinbaum that UAB will be getting an on-campus stadium of appropriate size within 3 years, I would take UAB in a heartbeat over Troy. Absent that we are struck with Troy. Neither lights the light that much. Alabama and Auburn soak up 99.9% of the football oxygen in Alabama. If I had to pick up an Alabama school, I would look at USA. Mobile has the least number of natives of any part of the state, (and thus folks not already a lifetime in to the eternal UA AU war) and also a lot of military and retirees. Similar deal to CCU, marketed right.
 
Oh boy, some mighty high aspirations with the idea of this thread. Dudes, if this is what we really wanted, just move to the sunbelt.............I hope we would have higher hopes than all this. Would probably be beneficial to see what happens to the B12 and AAC before any more craziness is talked about here. Before I'd move to the sunbelt, Id move back to the MAC, leave it at that. If one really wants to consider the idea of this thread, lets just go back to FCS.............that's exactly what a conference like that appears to be.
 
TwolfHerdfan you hit it. We are not moving period because we lack proactive leadership. Oh yeah I know. I have been criticized on here before by those saying how do I (we) know what is going on behind the scenes. At this point it's rather obvious that Marshall - athletically, is satisfied to be right where they are. Look we are NOT going to be invited so MH needs to go sell our university, community, and fan base as most other teams are doing in order to be considered. I hope I am really wrong and off base but hey, do you see or hear anything happening? No we don't and Huntington is small.
We all would know if Dr. Gilbert and Mr. Hamrick were making an effort to get us out of CUSA. But if they are satisfied to be where they are then be satisfied with CUSA.
 
Its a shame too bb, we had come a long way just to piss it all away with KO. Now we have the facilities Pruett begged for and practically no way to move up. It sure makes you wonder how different things could have been if a few things woulda happened: 1. no conference realignment and CUSA remained the same pre 2013. 2. We continued to grow from our success of the MAC days. Neither one happened, and the last one was too little too late. Not that budget should be an end all, it didn't matter much in CUSA 2.0 but undoubtedly many think it does so there it is. If we could afford to compete with those schools before, what has changed? Anyways, off the soap box for now.
 
Sam, Costal has a whopping endowment of less than $40 million. Their athletic department barely generates a million bucks in ticket sales - for all sports combined. They typically take in less than a million a year in donations. They are expanding their 9,000 seat football stadium but have no identified way to pay for it. They couldn't raise any meaningful private donations to kick start the project.
 
I just don't understand the point of a thread based on nothing but imagination and day dreams. Why not just put Marshall in the SEC and be done with it. o_O
 
Jock - this conversation is not far fetched. The game is changing and eventually we will get back to geographically aligned conferences. Sure, none of us will have a hand in deciding how it goes, but what else do you want to talk about on a Thursday, sitting here with a 1-3 record and an upcoming game against our big rival UNT?
 
More geographical, sure, but not to an FCS league........personally, again, if geography is your goal, I'd rather go back to the MAC than be associated with no name schools like CCU.......... a BIG SOUTH school. Baseball doesn't matter in the football world.
 
I just don't understand the point of a thread based on nothing but imagination and day dreams. Why not just put Marshall in the SEC and be done with it. o_O

A grown man posting on an Internet message board devoted to worshipping 18 to 20+ year old kids playing sports ball...

Yes, hypotheticals seem completely silly...
 
Why would that conference put more people in seats? CC? Citadel? Might as well go back to the Southern Confernce. Go big or go home. Go Herd!
 
It wouldn't thundermax, it would be a throw back to the FCS, would be less butts in seats and could you blame the fans if they said on hell no to something like that and quit showing up.
 
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