Notre Dame

[Herdfan1986]

I believe this game will be the “show us how good a coach Huff really is.” I don’t think success should be measured in the form of a W but that would be huge, rather how do the players come out to play and if they’re competitive and keep fighting for 60 minutes. Go Herd! Herd 28 Notre Dame 27

 

[Jartard]

I believe this game will be show us how good of a coach Huff really is, by no means am I expecting a W(hoping) but how do the players come out and if they’re competitive and keep fighting for 60 minutes. Go Herd!

I was hoping that they beat Ohio State and then this would be a let down game. Now it’s their home opener and they are seeking not only their first win, but their head coach’s first career win.

 

[goherdorgohome2]

Marshall 27
Notre Dame 24

 

[greengeezer]

Marshall 27
Notre Dame 24

Notre Dame starting the season 0-2 would be sweet.

 

[Jartard]

Notre Dame starting the season 0-2 would be sweet.

I’ve always loathed Notre Dame football and Duke basketball.

 

[houston herd guy]

I would love to see a win in this game, just do not expect one. I, like the OP, am looking for a solid performance for 60 minutes. a 2-3 score loss would be my expectation, anything less would be fantastic.

I might get ripped and told I am not a true fan for this, I am just realistic. I do think if some bounces fall our way there is a chance, but those bounces are mostly luck with a little bit of playing above the ceiling.

 

[W-S HerdFan]

I’ve always loathed Notre Dame football and Duke basketball.

Agreed Jartard! See if this corollary works for you: If I hate Notre Dame, I also hate the Cowboys?

 

[MU PIKE]

That’s why the OSU and ND was so hard to watch, two loathsome teams.

 

[goherdorgohome2]

I would love to see a win in this game, just do not expect one. I, like the OP, am looking for a solid performance for 60 minutes. a 2-3 score loss would be my expectation, anything less would be fantastic.

I might get ripped and told I am not a true fan for this, I am just realistic. I do think if some bounces fall our way there is a chance, but those bounces are mostly luck with a little bit of playing above the ceiling.

Ripping you!!! C’mon man!! GO HERD!!!

 

[ThunderCat98]

I'm afraid we are going to get our teeth kicked in.

 

[120050143]

I think realistically we’ll lose with the final score around 35-20 , I just don’t see our defense giving up more than 40, however I’d like for Verhoff to hit a 40+ yard FG as time expires for Marshall to win, and showing that not only are we here to play, but that for the first time since Rohrwasser graduated, we have a pretty damn good kicker

 

[greengeezer]

Notre Dame puts on their pants one leg at a time just like we do. Unfortunately, they have bigger pants.

 

[herdfan06]

I think realistically we’ll lose with the final score around 35-20 , I just don’t see our defense giving up more than 40, however I’d like for Verhoff to hit a 40+ yard FG as time expires for Marshall to win, and showing that not only are we here to play, but that for the first time since Rohrwasser graduated, we have a pretty damn good kicker

That may result in Touchdown Jesus getting a herdon.

 

[Marshall Jeff]

It's going to be a ND blowout

 

[herdfan06]

It's going to be a ND blowout

Goonies never say die.

 

[raleighherdfan]

Keys to the game IMO: make their QB move in the pocket and take away the tight end. Their QB didn’t impress at OSU. Can our LBs make plays and stop their running backs. We still look under sized at LB

offensively, can we protect our QB. Our OL will have their hands more than full.

 

[THUNDERGround]

Our offense HAS to sustain some drives. We can't rely on the D to float the entire boat. They will eventually get gassed.

If we can move the chains and have the ball bounce our way once or twice, we can stand a puncher's chance.

My guess... Notre Dame 38 - Marshall 17-24.

 

[Herdon2]

Anyone have info on drive up parking on GameDay? I'd love to partake in some tailgating on the main lot with some ND folks. Wonder how hospitable they are.

 

[TwentyTen]

Keys to the game IMO: make their QB move in the pocket and take away the tight end. Their QB didn’t impress at OSU. Can our LBs make plays and stop their running backs. We still look under sized at LB

offensively, can we protect our QB. Our OL will have their hands more than full.

I would say we need to keep their QB in the pocket. Running is his strength. Im not sure they are all that talented at WR but their TE is huge.

 

[HerdFan300]

I found a couple of similarities between the two programs. ND plays near the Golden Dome and MU plays behind the Golden Arches.

 

[RhinoD]

Notre Dame has more talent/depth than we do... Luckily for us, sometimes in football that doesn't matter.

Keys to the game --
1. Win the turnover battle (almost a given every week the way football is played today) -- We have to protect the ball. If we get it handed to us a few times that would be a huge bonus.
2. Third down -- We have to sustain drives, especially when we are in our own territory, and the defense has to be able to get some key stops. Early in the game this stat could very well decide whether we are in the game after halftime.
3. Splash plays -- The one thing we didn't do last week was make a "splash play." Paynes TD run was probably the closest thing to it. We have to hit a long throw, trick play, special teams play, etc. That is how upsets happen. We aren't going to drive the ball 10+ plays, 80+ yards, very often at ND.

Heart pick -- MU is +2 in the turnover battle, we run a punt back for a TD, and Colombi pulls a Stan Hill and dives for the pylon in the final 30 seconds for a 27-24 Herd win.
Head pick -- MU defense keeps us in the game in the first half, Notre Dame's depth takes over in the second half and they win a closer than expected but not necessarily nail biting game 30-14.

 

[HerdFB1]

We will be competitive, but guessing a 31-17 score. I can see half-time score being close.

 

[MichiganHerd]

Anyone have info on drive up parking on GameDay? I'd love to partake in some tailgating on the main lot with some ND folks. Wonder how hospitable they are.

See your thread from a couple weeks back.

https://marshall.forums.rivals.com/threads/nd-tailgating.58426/

 

[HerdGreen]

How many players do they take to ND?

 

[RhinoD]

How many players do they take to ND?

The limit is 70 players traveling... Basically the two-deep all the way around (offense/defense/special teams) equals 50. Then they bring extra linemen on both sides of the ball, extra DB's, a 3rd QB, etc.

 

[The Real SamC]

ND is a class program and generally doesn’t run up the score unnecessarily. However you have to play football and cannot ask the third string to just go through the motions. 45-3.

 

[raleighherdfan]

ND is a class program and generally doesn’t run up the score unnecessarily. However you have to play football and cannot ask the third string to just go through the motions. 45-3.

What did NM St do this last weekend?

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

ND is a class program and generally doesn’t run up the score unnecessarily. However you have to play football and cannot ask the third string to just go through the motions. 45-3.

Oh you're just brooding for such a score, aren't you?

 

[The Real SamC]

Nope, I would love to see us win, and short of that be a competitive. There is just no evidence that this crew has the ability to do either.

 

[bgr28]

Would be nice to see a close game but this one is over by halftime. My guess is 35-7 at half with a final score of 49-10.

 

[caliherd]

WTH are you talking about? The guy has been here one year.

My God the guy you can’t keep whining over got curb stomped by several teams, yet you defended him religiously. None of the teams he was stomped by were the caliber of Notre Dame outside of OSU his first year. You ask why people bring up other coaches, it’s the current coach we should talk about. It is because everything you hammer Huff about after 1 year, we got to witness year after year under the previous coach yet your tune was totally different. You are such a hypocrite that it is unreal.

 

[caliherd]

Would be nice to see a close game but this one is over by halftime. My guess is 35-7 at half with a final score of 49-10.

If that happens I will have zero faith in either this coach or where the program is.
We aren’t a FCS homecoming game and Notre Dame isn’t close to being Bama or Georgia. There is no reason we should get destroyed. If we aren’t competitive then I think our program is continuing to head in the wrong direction.

 

[Marine03]

42-17 ND

 

[RhinoD]

WTH are you talking about? The guy has been here one year.

My God the guy you can’t keep whining over got curb stomped by several teams, yet you defended him religiously. None of the teams he was stomped by were the caliber of Notre Dame outside of OSU his first year. You ask why people bring up other coaches, it’s the current coach we should talk about. It is because everything you hammer Huff about after 1 year, we got to witness year after year under the previous coach yet your tune was totally different. You are such a hypocrite that it is unreal.

If that happens I will have zero faith in either this coach or where the program is.
We aren’t a FCS homecoming game and Notre Dame isn’t close to being Bama or Georgia. There is no reason we should get destroyed. If we aren’t competitive then I think our program is continuing to head in the wrong direction.

First post says the coach has only been here a year, next post says a bad loss will detract from your faith in said coach... Huff's coaching ability and the program trajectory hang on this week's performance?

 

[The Real SamC]

Current coach is CH. His team, and not long ago history, is the proper topic. While Notre Dame is, always, vastly over-rated and wouldn’t win five games in the SEC, this year or any recent year, there is no real reason to believe they will not win by a very large margin. Then, after one no-return home money game for an easy victory and one no-return away money game for a curb stomping loss, the real season will begin and we can see if CH’s record of never beating a I-A team with a winning record will continue for a second year. He will have at least five and perhaps as many as seven chances to beat a team with a winning record this year. Let’s hope he can get one.

 

[BleedsGreen33]

For us to have a shot at winning this game we have got to be aggressive from start to finish. Everyone expects us to lose this game so why not play with house money.

If we come out with what we ran last week and what we've ran the last few years of this passive lateral pass game that just "take the profit" we're going to be punting a lot. Notre Dame has too much speed for us to be playing laterally. We need to take the fight to them like we expect to win. The "taking what's there approach" won't work, because Notre Dame isn't going to leave much there to for. We're going to have to take it frrom them.

Also if Huff treats this like some random OoC game not wanting to put stuff on film he wants to use during the conference slate then we'll get our doors blown off. Embarrassingly bad. Same will happen if he plays close to the vest like Doc did trying to not do too much to limit mistakes.

This is the biggest game we have ever played. There is not bigger stage for Marshall football nor will there probably ever be for Marshall football. We are playing the bluest of the blue blood programs, on their home turf, on national tv. A win here would have such a payoff for us that I don't think it could be quantified.

We need to treat this game like we have our bowl games. We need to throw everything at them and leave nothing on the call sheets.

Bubble screens, swings, and short outs won't win this game.

 

[caliherd]

First post says the coach has only been here a year, next post says a bad loss will detract from your faith in said coach... Huff's coaching ability and the program trajectory hang on this week's performance?

Fair point Rhino, let me explain.
I don’t see Marshall as a punching bag school that it’s just nice we have a team I hope nobody gets hurt.
I don’t view Notre Dame as this scary powerhouse team like an Alabama or Georgia. So if we go into South Bend and get destroyed then I feel that means that we are continuing on a downward trajectory. It means that the years of mediocrity that we have had since 2005 still exists. I will still like coach huff no matter what happens Saturday but if we get beat down like we beat down Norfolk then yes I will lose faith in the program. It doesn’t mean I won’t still be a fan nor does it mean I won’t still watch every game and I won’t trash Coach huff. But it will be a big disappointment.
My reply to Sam is spot on. Everything that Sam bashes coach huff on he completely neglects to remember that his coach that he wishes were still here did for 11 years. I will always call him on his hypocrisy.

 

[BleedsGreen33]

Fair point Rhino, let me explain.
I don’t see Marshall as a punching bag school that it’s just nice we have a team I hope nobody gets hurt.
I don’t view Notre Dame as this scary powerhouse team like an Alabama or Georgia. So if we go into South Bend and get destroyed then I feel that means that we are continuing on a downward trajectory. It means that the years of mediocrity that we have had since 2005 still exists. I will still like coach huff no matter what happens Saturday but if we get beat down like we beat down Norfolk then yes I will lose faith in the program. It doesn’t mean I won’t still be a fan nor does it mean I won’t still watch every game and I won’t trash Coach huff. But it will be a big disappointment.
My reply to Sam is spot on. Everything that Sam bashes coach huff on he completely neglects to remember that his coach that he wishes were still here did for 11 years. I will always call him on his hypocrisy.

I kind of get what you're saying. It's like when you say "well UC went in there and beat them last year" then the person you're talking to says, "yea well that's UC". UC is a G5 team. They were when they came and blew our doors off too. People then were excusing it because it was UC. When are we going to get back to holding our team in high regard. When we expect our program to be able to go toe to toe with the big boys again and when we matchup with the good G5s we expect to win.

Notre Dame lays eggs at home all the time. Last year they struggled to beat Toledo. We can win this game. Although even Huff was making remarks in his presser that the result of this game has no bearing on our ultimate goals of winning the SBC.

I will also say this about what Sam posts. While I don't agree with much of what he says what Doc did really has no meaning here. Sure he struggled against the better teams, but Huff was brought in to not do that. That's why Doc is gone. So when people defend Huff by saying, "but yea Doc did that too." Well Doc is no longer here and Huff is here to not do that. If we hammered the last guy for it we darn well better be hammering this guy for it.

Huff doesn't get to escape criticism because his predecessor was mediocre.

 

[The Real SamC]

Exactly. It would not matter if the previous coach was Bear Bryant or Mark Snyder. THIS coach is writing his own story, with, thanks to the new transfer rules, more of his own people in year 2 than any other era.

The “whataboutism” that goes on is, like in most discussions, just so much ho-ha. THIS coach has beaten no one with a winning record. That must change.

BTW, all the “hypocrisy” crap is getting very old. I called out people who criticized WINS. If we ever win a game of significance again and people criticize it, I will respond in the same manner.

 

[caliherd]

I kind of get what you're saying. It's like when you say "well UC went in there and beat them last year" then the person you're talking to says, "yea well that's UC". UC is a G5 team. They were when they came and blew our doors off too. People then were excusing it because it was UC. When are we going to get back to holding our team in high regard. When we expect our program to be able to go toe to toe with the big boys again and when we matchup with the good G5s we expect to win.

Notre Dame lays eggs at home all the time. Last year they struggled to beat Toledo. We can win this game. Although even Huff was making remarks in his presser that the result of this game has no bearing on our ultimate goals of winning the SBC.

I will also say this about what Sam posts. While I don't agree with much of what he says what Doc did really has no meaning here. Sure he struggled against the better teams, but Huff was brought in to not do that. That's why Doc is gone. So when people defend Huff by saying, "but yea Doc did that too." Well Doc is no longer here and Huff is here to not do that. If we hammered the last guy for it we darn well better be hammering this guy for it.

Huff doesn't get to escape criticism because the his predecessor was mediocre.

No what I call Sam out on is his hypocrisy. If he held Doc to the same standards he holds Huff I would never say a word to him about it. He doesn’t do that he bashes Coach Huff for everything that he used to go all out to defend Doc.
I have no issue with criticisms of Coach huff, he definitely brought some on himself in several games last year.