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Lol...come on guys, this isn't as impressive as you're making it out to be. You're giving Trump credit for empty space. Rural areas tend to be more conservative and urban areas more liberal. You're giving Trump credit for unoccupied land. But unoccupied land doesn't vote...people do. And the split in the people was around 50/50 with Hillary getting a slight edge and Trump getting the edge in electoral votes. But if it makes you feel better that you get to shade in the deserts and plains enjoy. I guess.
 
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GK4Herd said:
Lol...come on guys, this isn't as impressive as you're making it out to be. You're giving Trump credit for empty space. Rural areas tend to be more conservative and urban areas more liberal. You're giving Trump credit for unoccupied land. But unoccupied land doesn't vote...people do. And the split in the people was around 50/50 with Hillary getting a slight edge and Trump getting the edge in electoral votes. But if it makes you feel better that you get to shade in the deserts and plains enjoy. I guess.
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33 Gov and control of 32 state legislators is not empty space.
 
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ohio herd said:
33 Gov and control of 32 state legislators is not empty space.
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More people voted for Hillary than Trump. The 85/15 illustration of territory is intellectually dishonest if you are trying to pass this off as a major majority. It isn't. I agree that Republicans presently have the upper hand in elected officials. But to imply that there is a major rout of the democrats because the republicans are spaced further apart is a stretch. The conservatives have the edge right now. But that could change in a single election cycle.
 
What makes it impressive is how there was supposed to be no chance in hell of it happening. That's what we heard from all the Hillary cheerleader channels. Even our own channel.

This is like Appalachian State beating Michigan at the big house. I don't recall the BTN reporter walking up to Jerry Moore after the game saying, "Well coach, this really wasn't that impressive. You might as well have a bowl of oatmeal and take a nice nap."
 
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GK4Herd said:
Lol...come on guys, this isn't as impressive as you're making it out to be. You're giving Trump credit for empty space. Rural areas tend to be more conservative and urban areas more liberal. You're giving Trump credit for unoccupied land. But unoccupied land doesn't vote...people do. And the split in the people was around 50/50 with Hillary getting a slight edge and Trump getting the edge in electoral votes. But if it makes you feel better that you get to shade in the deserts and plains enjoy. I guess.
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Hence, the reason we have the electoral college. So that ass holes in New York and California can't control the rest of the country.

We won, damn it. The hayseeds,hicks, rednecks, good old boys, hot dog eating Americans won.

And, I like it. We showed 'em. We showed those smug liberal media types that we are still out here.

Gonna Make America Great Again.
 
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i am herdman said:
Hence, the reason we have the electoral college. So that ass holes in New York and California can't control the rest of the country.

We won, damn it. The hayseeds,hicks, rednecks, good old boys, hot dog eating Americans won.

And, I like it. We showed 'em. We showed those smug liberal media types that we are still out here.

Gonna Make America Great Again.
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Damn good reply sir! I liked it very much, well stated and to the point. 6-STARS
 
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Liberals just can't stand it.

Powder-puff snowflakes...

Sure, there's more people within the 15% of Liberal indoctrination zones than there are everywhere else. Thank God they aren't going to rule over everyone else
 
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i am herdman said:
Hence, the reason we have the electoral college. So that ass holes in New York and California can't control the rest of the country.

We won, damn it. The hayseeds,hicks, rednecks, good old boys, hot dog eating Americans won.

And, I like it. We showed 'em. We showed those smug liberal media types that we are still out here.

Gonna Make America Great Again.
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When, exactly, did America stop being great, and what laws, exactly, would make America great again?
 
Well, GK, two things.

1. There are no uninhabited counties in the United States according to the latest census. There are two with less than 100 people and about 50 with less than a 1,000 people.

2. There are over 3,000 counties in the United States. Half of the population lives in just 146 of them.

So Trump is getting no credit for empty spaces. Hillary had the opportunity to win each one of those counties. Personally, I don't want to live in a country were 146 urban counties decide our leadership. A high percentage of non land owners in those counties relative to the rest of the country. A high percentage of people that pay no federal income tax in those counties relative to the rest of the country. The overwhelming percentage of welfare recipients in those 146 counties. An overwhelming percentage of all crime committed in those 146 counties.

Those people in those counties do a horrible job of governing themselves. They are the last people who should tell this country how it should be run.
 
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I'm not diminishing Trump's win. I'm not disputing the electoral system that's in place. I'm not trying to rain on the parades of the conservatives here. I dislike what Hillary Clinton is and represents. But the assertion of dominance trying to be made with the 85/15 land map is deceiving. Being honest enough to say that isn't an endorsement of either side. Enjoy the win. But don't deceive yourself into believing you have a dominance that couldn't reverse in a single election cycle.
 
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Walden Pond said:
What makes it impressive is how there was supposed to be no chance in hell of it happening. That's what we heard from all the Hillary cheerleader channels. Even our own channel.

This is like Appalachian State beating Michigan at the big house. I don't recall the BTN reporter walking up to Jerry Moore after the game saying, "Well coach, this really wasn't that impressive. You might as well have a bowl of oatmeal and take a nice nap."
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This I agree with. It has absolutely nothing to do with the point, but I agree.
 
And to illustrate how the 85/15 map can be deceiving, the following is the county map of the 2012 election where Obama won not only the popular vote, but had a rout of electoral votes as well...


https://goo.gl/images/EQIexI

The map looks almost identical in the Obama rout as it does in the Trump win. Why? Because it colors in uninhabited deserts and farmland. And look at the state of Alaska. Even though Romney had a. 14% margin over Obama, the state is predominantly blue on the map. Using your same logic you could build a case for a democratic dominance that simply doesn't exist.
 
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If you want to see how there isn't shit out there, look at one of those night time satellite photos of the US.

I've stormchased plenty on the Great Plains. Lots of dirt roads off the main roads. If you want to get close to a storm or take a shortcut you will be driving on dirt or mud. You can drive miles and never see a house.
 
GK4Herd said:
I'm not diminishing Trump's win. I'm not disputing the electoral system that's in place. I'm not trying to rain on the parades of the conservatives here. I dislike what Hillary Clinton is and represents. But the assertion of dominance trying to be made with the 85/15 land map is deceiving. Being honest enough to say that isn't an endorsement of either side. Enjoy the win. But don't deceive yourself into believing you have a dominance that couldn't reverse in a single election cycle.
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I don't think anyone is claiming, or will be fooled in to believing, that it was a Trump domination based on that map. It just very clearly illustrates that what we have in this country is not a race issue, not a wealth gap issue, and not a gender issue. What we have is an urban vs non-urban issue. Two very different sets of people who need and want two entirely different things from their government. To me, they view themselves as Queen Bees and view us as the worker bees. They don't consider that all that "empty space" that gets colored red is where all their food and resources come from and all those little red people are the ones that provide those things to them.
 
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And to illustrate how the 85/15 map can be deceiving, the following is the county map of the 2012 election where Obama won not only the popular vote, but had a rout of electoral votes as well...


https://goo.gl/images/EQIexI

The map looks almost identical in the Obama rout as it does in the Trump win. Why? Because it colors in uninhabited deserts and farmland. And look at the state of Alaska. Even though Romney had a. 14% margin over Obama, the state is predominantly blue on the map. Using your same logic you could build a case for a democratic dominance that simply doesn't exist.
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Dig a little deeper. Look at Trumps win. Control of Congress. Control of state legislatures and governors.

If this were a football game it would be Conservatives 56 Liberals 20. The liberals had 400 yards passing and nothing to show for it.

They are dismantled right now. This was and is a landslide and really a damn near revolution.

We have had enough and I am glad my old man got to see it.
 
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President-Elect Trump carried at least 28 of the 50 states, and if they would finalize the vote counting, he will have carried 30 of the 50 states, or 60 percent. This landslide includes states Democrats assumed were reasonably solid for Hillary like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.
However you want to cut it, how presidents are elected in these United States = a landslide for Trump.
 
extragreen said:
Just what I expected. You can't answer either question. But of course you "tell it like it is."
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You asked a question and I gave an answer. I told you. When we started training our brains of mush(our children) to be pussies and not try to win. Look at some of these pathetic individuals crying and going to their safe space over an election. Their parents should be ashamed. Our nations has raised a generation of softies. That is not American. Time to stop apologizing and time to start kicking ass again.

We hired the token and he is done and now it is time to get back to work.
 
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When, exactly, did America stop being great, and what laws, exactly, would make America great again?
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Sometime in the late 90s. it's been a steady decline since then. Started around the same time as our reality tv obsession and culminated with the invention of social media. In-between we've had, as Herdman pointed out, a culture that has moved away from winners and losers to "everybody gets a trophy." Ultimately, I think things went downhill fast with the rise of political correctness and a desire to avoid offending anyone. Coupled with the rise of globalism, we've been in a pretty bad way since the Bush years, and it's only gotten worse.
 
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Hear a bunch of crying about the 60+ million people that somehow live in uninhabited lands.

Butt-hurt is hilarious; such precious little snowflakes
 
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You asked a question and I gave an answer. I told you. When we started training our brains of mush(our children) to be pussies and not try to win. Look at some of these pathetic individuals crying and going to their safe space over an election. Their parents should be ashamed. Our nations has raised a generation of softies. That is not American. Time to stop apologizing and time to start kicking ass again.

We hired the token and he is done and now it is time to get back to work.
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Don't take the "semantic argument" bait Herdman. It's an abyss...just like wayne co.
 
Raoul Duke MU said:
If you want to see how there isn't shit out there, look at one of those night time satellite photos of the US.

I've stormchased plenty on the Great Plains. Lots of dirt roads off the main roads. If you want to get close to a storm or take a shortcut you will be driving on dirt or mud. You can drive miles and never see a house.
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Do you prefer Harlem and SF with all the Trannies, heroin addicts shooting up on the streets and trash within those cesspools?
 
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Do you prefer Harlem and SF with all the Trannies, heroin addicts shooting up on the streets and trash within those cesspools?
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I don't see how you get a "preference" thing from my post. It's just an observation. You think you know "country" in WV, a lot of WV is much more densely populated than places on the Plains. Even things like light pollution; WV is a lot better than most of the East (right around Spruce Knob is pretty damn dark), but once you get out in central Kansas and Nebraska the sky is dark as fvck for miles and miles. I've gone on chases out there and waited a day or two for the weather to clear just to stargaze, and I am not the only one that does that. That said I like the hills more than I like the flatlands.

Addicts shooting up and trash sounds a lot like Huntington. That's a big reason I moved away. We have drugs and trash here, but there's a lot more economic success here, too.

I really liked San Francisco when I went there as a kid. It made a big impression on me, it's a beautiful city, but I don't live in obvious geologic time-bomb areas so I wouldn't live there if I had a billion dollars. LA didn't impress me at all. I really have no desire to visit either now, I want the San Francisco of Bullitt and Dirty Harry and the LA of CHiPS, the California I saw on TV and film as a kid; too much time has gone by and there is just more too many goddamn people.
 
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don't deceive yourself into believing you have a dominance that couldn't reverse in a single election cycle
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If Trump goes soft and says, "Gee, I didn't really dominate so I better kiss everybody's ass" then yeah, it'll reverse itself quickly as the disappointed rednecks in our camp will go back to shooting rifles in the air all day and say to hell with this voting shit.

And I wouldn't blame them a bit. We elected Trump to kick some ass and get things done. The things he said he would do. If he doesn't, if he softens up RINO style then he'll get run out on a rail.
 
That's the ticket. Tell these people crying around in rooms full of coloring books and puppies that he won't get anything done. If he does, it's not like they'll notice anyway.

To think I admired these people's ferocity. Never imagined they would actually cry when they lost. I thought they were thugs and lezbos. Those are supposedly the toughest people left. Crying around, actually afraid. Of what? Hell, we don't even want to go to New York or LA. They can keep those hell holes as fruity and foreign as they want and we won't care. Just don't bring it out here.
 
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I don't think anyone is claiming, or will be fooled in to believing, that it was a Trump domination based on that map. It just very clearly illustrates that what we have in this country is not a race issue, not a wealth gap issue, and not a gender issue. What we have is an urban vs non-urban issue. Two very different sets of people who need and want two entirely different things from their government. To me, they view themselves as Queen Bees and view us as the worker bees. They don't consider that all that "empty space" that gets colored red is where all their food and resources come from and all those little red people are the ones that provide those things to them.
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It also shows if Libs want to really start some sheeut they are fooked
 
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