Already 5 regular season champions that will not get a NCAA bids have lost in their conf tourneys. So 5 of 32 spots are gone from non power 5 conf reg season conf champs. This is still with at least 10 more tourneys left to play out. I am guessing at least 4 more, which takes up about 28% of the total spots. With only 8 at large bids from last year (not sure how many conf champs lost in their tourney last year) don't see us in the NIT if we don't win our tourney. Our recent history does not give us a leg up over other teams.
Ok so which tourney?
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So once again are we putting an emphasis on wins over better competition?
No, we're putting an emphasis on getting a home game.
How did that get lost in translation?
I just hope if we choose to play in one of the low rate tournaments we actually show up to play. We have been flat in the past, adding to insult of playing in a crummy tournament is getting hammered in one.
The last "pay for play" tournament I saw MU play at the Henderson Center the players were not really into the game. No Enthusiasm !!! A lot of walking around dribbling and very uninspired. It was like they were embarrassed to be there.
That was when everyone knew DJ was on the way to UCF, the players knew he was bailing and played like it. I think this is a completely different situation that they want to continue playing and know it could pay big dividends for next season - from a tournament experience perspective. jmo
So we are valuing a possible home game vs playing better competition. Gotcha
Sometimes I feel Hamrick is the roadblock keeping Marshall back.
Eh. While the CBI had a marginally better field last year the difference is not overwhelming. There wasn't a single power conference team in either tournament:
CBI
Team Conference Overall record Conference record
Coastal Carolina Sun Belt 16–17 10–8
Eastern Washington Big Sky 22–11 13–5
George Mason Atlantic 10 20–13 9–9
George Washington Atlantic 10 19–14 10–8
Georgia Southern Sun Belt 18–14 11–7
Green Bay Horizon 18–13 12–6
Hampton MEAC 14–16 11–5
UIC Horizon 15–18 7–11
Loyola (MD) Patriot 15–16 8–10
Rice C-USA 22–11 11–7
San Francisco West Coast 20–12 10–8
Stony Brook America East 18–13 12–4
Toledo Mid-American 17–16 9–9
UMKC WAC 17–16 8–6
Utah Valley WAC 15–16 6–8
Wyoming Mountain West 18–14 8–10
Produced a final four of: Coastal Carolina, UIC, Wyoming and Utah Valley.
CIT
Team Conference Overall record Conference record
Albany America East 21–13 10–6
Ball State MAC 21–12 11–7
Cal State Fullerton[2] Big West 17–14 10–6
Campbell[3] Big South 17–17 7–11
Canisius[4] MAAC 18–15 10–10
Fairfield[5] MAAC 16–14 11–9
Fort Wayne Summit 19–12 8–8
Furman[6] SoCon 21–11 14–4
Georgia State Sun Belt 20–12 12–6
Houston Baptist[7] Southland 17–13 12–6
Idaho Big Sky 18–13 12–6
Jacksonville[8] ASUN 17–15 5–9
Lamar Southland 19–14 10–8
Liberty[9] Big South 19–13 14–4
Norfolk State[10] MEAC 17–16 12–4
Saint Francis (PA)[11] NEC 16–16 11–7
Saint Peter's[12] MAAC 19–13 14–6
Samford[13] SoCon 19–15 8–10
Stephen F. Austin Southland 18–14 12–6
Texas A&M–Corpus Christi Southland 20–11 12–6
Texas State Sun Belt 20–13 11–7
UMBC[14] America East 18–12 9–7
UNC Asheville Big South 23–9 15–3
USC Upstate[15] ASUN 17–15 7–7
UT Martin OVC 21–12 10–6
Weber State Big Sky 19–13 12–6
Produced a final four of: Furman, St Peters, Texas A&M CC and UMBC.
You can like our AD or not. Personally, I think he is the best AD we have had, ever. But, really we are going to be down on him because supposedly he picked the CBI over the CIT or v-v. Based on a supposed unwillingness of one or the other to give (actually sell) us a home game?
Really?
Come on, man.
At the end of the day, because of auto-bids, probably the NCAA takes the top 40 and the NIT the next 20. And, looking at Wikipedia, pretty much it looks like the next 40 best are spread between these two pay to play deals. I cannot say which one is better than the other, really. But the bigger point is you really are going to get upset if we are in a deal that has, say, 10 of what is really numbers 61-100, rather than, say 12 of them. Who cares?
If we are going to play in either of these tournaments, we should absolutely be valuing home games over opponent.
Would you rather play an A-10 team on the road or a So.Con team at home? There is pretty much no difference in media exposure or anyone outside of the two programs giving a rats ass, so you better take the home game... Its not like the CBI is filled with slightly above 500 ACC, Big East and Big 10 schools and the CIT is also rans from the MAAC, SWAC and Sun Belt. The competition isn't much different.
