Potential Game Changer

[raleighherdfan]

You guys are missing the point. WV needs more lawyers. The billboards advertising lawyers getting residence SS benefits proves it....... 😂 😂

 

[herdfella]

As other have explained above, this will be a low rated proprietary law school. A place for people turned down by WVU’s 4th rate effort; or more likely who made life decisions that precluded 3 more years in full time college, to get a law degree, generally later in life than normal.

Those types of people are not going to go to some big city and become superstars. They are going to get sucked into the legal meat grinder in Charleston. A system that already cannot employ all that just WVU produces.

First of all, no one "knows" how the school would eventually be rated. As mentioned previously in this thread, WVU's school has bounced between ratings multiple times in the last 20 years. Would it take time to build a respected school, sure. Should that be the determining factor of if one is started, absolutely not.
Secondly, if we held to your view of "those type of people", we would probably still not have achieved university status and may not have attracted the Brad Smith's of the world - we would still be a local teachers college. Believe it or not, Marshall has a fairly nice history of cranking out some "big city superstars", you could see it if you would crawl out from the rock you appear to live under.

 

[The Real SamC]

What part of “as others have explained above” do you not understand?

Don’t let hate of WVU get in the way of reason.

And, BTW, we had a thread not long ago on the supposed “domination” of the legislature by WVU in general and WVU law in particular. Reread it and be disabused of that myth.

 

[raleighherdfan]

Don’t let hate of WVU get in the way of reason

This is the entire reason you post here.

What part of “as others have explained above” do you not understand?

What others have explained is simple: Marshall cant "compete". No reason to move forward. It's the West Virginia way.

 

[herdfella]

What part of “as others have explained above” do you not understand?

Don’t let hate of WVU get in the way of reason.

And, BTW, we had a thread not long ago on the supposed “domination” of the legislature by WVU in general and WVU law in particular. Reread it and be disabused of that myth.

The basis of "What others have explained above" is a flawed argument. It is based on unknown assumptions and opinions. People far more informed than you and I believe it is worth investigating. Get out of the way with your constant negative bullshit and see where it goes.

I have no hate towards WVU. I am indifferent, at best. Not sure where you pulled that from.

Nothing I posted has anything to do with the makeup of our Legislature. I really don't care where those ladies and gentlemen went to school. Rational people don't think the reason to open a law school at Marshall is to try and stack the Legislature with Marshall grads, its more about offering an advanced degree program that will attract more tuition paying students and, in return, hopefully graduate generous alumni.

Honest question. When the creation of the med school was being debated, did Marshall alumni, fans, residents of Huntington (or whatever category you want to put yourself in) use the same logic that is being argued against the law school to try and thwart it from coming to fruition?

 

[GoHerdMarshallYes]

Yes. The focus should be creating on a "worthwhile" advanced degree program that graduates "successful individuals," of which a Marshall law school is not likely to achieve.

Law schools are successful based on their rankings and a number of factors determine those rankings. Some of the most significant categories are the accomplishments of faculty and the employment rate among graduates.

The stated purpose of this law school is to graduate non-traditional students in an after-hours setting. By this very nature, the law school will not attract accomplished faculty because no serious law professor wants to work in such a setting. The employment numbers are not going to be there to support this type of law school, and we know that because a host of non-traditional law schools (see NKU, Cooley) have terrible employment statistics.

So, we are looking at a law school that will be ranked below WVU in the state (meaning, the lowest ranking among law schools) and that will have poor employment statistics (really, the entire point of law school is to be employed as a lawyer).

This will be against a backdrop of uneasy enrollment numbers in law schools across the country and an overabundance of unemployed attorneys graduating from law school. Brad Smith was measured in his comments regarding the law school. As having a daughter who is an attorney, I think he understands the economics of this.

It really comes down to what you view as "worthwhile" and who is a "successful individual." What I personally do not think is worthwhile is using resources to support a low-tier law school for non-traditional students that is likely to lead to low employment rates, which I think any study of this law school should support.

The days of a law school being important to a higher ed institution have long passed by. Practicing law is not the profession it once was. STEM is the future for higher ed and has been for some time.

Goddamn, Sam...how many accounts do you have on here?

 

[oldeherd]

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