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Raising the minimum wage doesn't decrease poverty rate

Point out if you can where someone is stating that all employees should make the same, or that employees should make more than their employer. Oh wait, you can't. Like I said, grow up.

There is the cowardly reply that was inevitable. Can't get around his failed attempt at changing the premise of the discussion ultimately resulting in "I didn't say what I actually said."
 
You are an idiot, Tom Brady is employed in a closed monopoly and is the most valuable player in that monopoly. Close off the medical profession to only employ 60 or so cardiologists and find out how much they make. Until then, it is a terrible analogy.

The point still stands, moron.
 
I did not say worth- God determines that. You assume that ever person will make their service available at the lowest denominator. The brain surgeon has years of education and piles of debt. He also has talent- not everyone can operate. Do you think the guys who delivers your children deserves no more than the woman who cuts your wife's hair? Please show me where their is child labor in the USA.I say the market drives up the value of scarce resources. Since not everyone can preform brain surgery only those qualified are allowed to do it. On the other hand, anyone can cut the grass. That's why one makes more than the other. In Economics we call it the division of labor. Say you are an Attorney. You cam earn say $200 an hour. Your Legal Secretary earns $20 an hour. Lets say you can type 100 words a minute and she can type 75. If you type your documents you can do it faster but you are losing income because now a 200 an hour employee is producing 20 dollar an hour work. Get it ?

Once again, no one is arguing that everyone should make the same wage. I'm saying everyone that's willing to work and hold down a job is worth more than $7.25 an hour. If you can't pay more than that when everyone else has to, close the business.
 
Once again, no one is arguing that everyone should make the same wage. I'm saying everyone that's willing to work and hold down a job is worth more than $7.25 an hour. If you can't pay more than that when everyone else has to, close the business.
well actually you did and once again changed the subject. Neither did I say that a slight increase is wrong. We don't agree on the amount of the increase. I do believe that different skill sets deserve different pay.
 
well actually you did and once again changed the subject. Neither did I say that a slight increase is wrong. We don't agree on the amount of the increase. I do believe that different skill sets deserve different pay.

Point out where I said everyone should make the same wage.
 
The issue is you see the value of a stock boy and a teacher to be equal. They aren't. Would you pay yourself $16/hr while paying an apprentice who has no experience $15?

Where in this country does a Teacher make 35k a year?? Maybe the argument should be that teachers should demand higher pay or they need to find a new occupation. Too much greed and too much blind people who accepts the greed as a way of life. This is America and the poverty levels shouldn't be as high or close to some third world countries.

And not everyone is looking for a handout. Some people can't legitimately find work that pays a decent living. You guys think it's easy for people to just get up go to school, go to trade school, afford to pay for it and all is solved. Maybe for you but you aren't everyone.

What about that person that made a stupid decision when they was 16-17, got charged a felony served 2 years and are now in their 30s and can't find work because of something that happened a decade ago. They want to go straight but the only place willing to hire them pays them $8/hr. Do you think that's fair. Do you think it's fair people in the military get paid LESS THAN MINIMUM WAGE??

I don't agree that the minimum wage should be $15/hr but it should be at least $11.50 with a gradual raise every year of $.35

But this is how ****ed up and greedy American Corporations are. It's either raise the minimum wage and watch corporations either cut hours or even ship jobs overseas or not raise the minimum wage and continue to watch Americans suffer or resort to illegal means to make money to survive
 
Plus the cost of everything in America is going up. Rent, Utilities, clothes, food, childcare, taxes, even entertainment.

Wages should reflect the same trend but it's not.
 
Take your own advice Fever. Start a business and hire people with a decent wage. You might actually learn something in the process. Quit waiting on someone or some corporation to write you a check.
 
Plus the cost of everything in America is going up. Rent, Utilities, clothes, food, childcare, taxes, even entertainment.

Wages should reflect the same trend but it's not.

What do you think would happen to these costs if wages jumped?
 
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