That's correct. I know conservative politicians are not interested in attempting to solve it.
Random partisan thoughts on poverty
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That’s great advice. Especially the third bit. Free contraceptives and abortions would help a ton.
But teen-early 20 year olds are also really dumb and don’t take good advice or plan much for their future.
This sort of advice always kind of struck me as a tad disingenuous. And yeah, like I said, if you actually do it you’ll be way better off. But a lot of people already didn’t, so you’ve already got a problem. Advice that requires a time machine to function isn’t great advice.
It’s kind of like seeing someone who dug himself down into a pit and can’t get out, and saying “damn, you should’ve brought a ladder. I’ve got a ladder right here, my parents gave it to me. But you really shouldn’t have gone down there without a ladder. You’d be out of there in a jiff if you had a ladder. Well, bye then.”
5. Don’t work for employers like Greed. You’ll be paid no benefits and most likely will end up needing to find other work when he decides he’s made enough $$ for himself, doesn’t want employees and let’s you go
Correction: Working for a woodshed business with a greedy as fvck owner always ends badly. He turns it into a tax evading hobby and you'll get stiffed.
It’s great advice to someone still young enough to take it. It’s worthless to everyone for whom it is already too late. So it’s not a solution.
You can’t not have kids till you’re 21 after you’ve already had a kid before you were 21.
This poverty thing is like the fake bird flu. Can't find any actual story of anyone who really doesn't have the basic stuff.
If I really had to, I could stay fat off of eating out of garbage cans.
If I really had to, I could stay fat off of eating out of garbage cans.
This is, by the way, a good example of the difference I’ve noticed between the typical liberal and conservative mindsets in the US today. Liberals usually look at it through the lens of systemic issues, while conservatives usually look at it through the lens of personal choices. I pretty obviously fall on one side of that spectrum, but is that a fair statement?
Change 21 to 31 for having children
21 is still too young in modern society.
Same for marriage. At least 30
21 is still too young in modern society.
Same for marriage. At least 30
Yeah a 21 having kids (or getting married) is crazy. I don’t know about 31 but late 20s for sure.
If you think anyone is going to "solve" poverty - especially a politician - you must be a special kind of stupid.
Need to cut years out of school and have people with jobs, kids, etc. in their teens. This late 20s and 30s stuff is already life about over with.
That's the most bitter I could probably be is at how my good years got wasted on school and college. All those years to learn stuff I could have learned in half the time or less. Giant waste, and when you're that young you're too stupid to know you're blowing it badly and in a few years you'll be broken down and worthless as hell physically.
That's the most bitter I could probably be is at how my good years got wasted on school and college. All those years to learn stuff I could have learned in half the time or less. Giant waste, and when you're that young you're too stupid to know you're blowing it badly and in a few years you'll be broken down and worthless as hell physically.
You stupid punk. I already agreed politicians are not going to solve the problem. But I'm not giving them license to not try.
Two wise old sayings come to mind...
One is closing the barn door after the horse has gotten out, and...
an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
So, has the educational campaign of the last 40 years against drunk driving been successful?
"Since 1982, drunk driving fatalities on our nation's roadways have decreased 52%, while total traffic fatalities have declined 18%. Among persons under 21, drunk driving fatalities have decreased 83%."
Following your thought process the entire campaign is worthless to those already killed by drunk driving...
You liberals are fond of saying "if it only saves one life...". Here is an opportunity to walk the walk.
Like I’ve said it’s great advice to give. It’s just not, ultimately, a solution to just give good advice.
No, for it to be a solution someone needs to actually HEED that advice...
You are appearing obstinate when this is one of the cheapest strategies to combat poverty that I have ever run across. It's really not that hard yet your are trying to make it hard.
The Covid vaccine is worthless to everyone for whom it is already too late (that have already died). So it's not a solution.
How does that play???
Let me dumb it down for you then...
Three basic concepts to prevent someone from possibly living a life of poverty...
1. Graduate high school.
2. Get a full-time job.
3. Wait until 21 before marrying and having kids.
What is so hard about those three basic concepts?
The but, but, buts are an attempt to make it hard.
But some people don't graduate high school... Yes, and that it one of the three basic concepts that need to be applied in order for the poverty cycle to be broken.
But some people don't have a full-time job... Yes and those people need to try to find full-time employment in order for the poverty cycle to be broken.
But some people already have kids before 21... Yes and that makes it harder to break the cycle of poverty. Those following them need to wait until later to have children in order for the poverty cycle to be broken.
It's really not that difficult to grasp if only you can count to three...
You don't comprehend that you're parroting false information. The research of the study that your misinformation is coming from found that more poor people (appx 11.1%) followed all 3 of those principles than those that followed none of those principles (appx 9.2%) and the remaining poor people followed 1 or 2 of the principles (appx 80%). Those ^^^are the FACTS of that study, quite unlike the malarkey you're spewing.
Might want to add, "live someplace with jobs...decent jobs."
As someone that spends an above average amount of time driving around the middle of nowhere, I often wonder, "where in the hell do these people work?"
Where’s the giant rolleyes gif.
There are a lot more people living in poverty than died from Covid. The difference is, those people are still alive, so there’s value in trying to help them. Dead people are dead, so unless we’re getting into necromancy…
Whoosh!!!
And wasn't that indeed the purpose of what was originally posted in this thread???
All I got from yours was a weak attempt to justify an even weaker strawman argument...
Poverty is a principal cause of death in the US. Please reconcile that to your Covid argument.
Poverty Kills More People Every Year in the U.S. Than Heart Disease or Cancer
Poverty kills more people every year than any other cause and contributes to even more deaths. Why doesn't anybody care?
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Even better, please explain the Covid deaths associated with poverty
Poverty and Covid-19: Rates of Incidence and Deaths in the United States During the First 10 Weeks of the Pandemic
The Covid-19 pandemic in the winter and spring of 2020 represents a major challenge to the world health care system that has not been seen perhaps since the influenza pandemic in 1918. The virus has spread across the world, claiming lives on all continents with the exception of Antarctica. Since...
