You've already said that once. Maybe you don't remember. If they can learn to read a tape without someone teaching them, they don't need to be at my shop. They can do that at your home.
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You've already said that once. Maybe you don't remember. If they can learn to read a tape without someone teaching them, they don't need to be at my shop. They can do that at your home.
Greeds a stereotypical racist.
He assumes a black kid can't do math or fractions? But more importantly. He doesn't want to teach them.
Claims to buy a white guy lunch, but won't hire a black guy in order to learn a trade, that will actually help him feed himself.
He assumes a black kid can't do math or fractions? But more importantly. He doesn't want to teach them.
Claims to buy a white guy lunch, but won't hire a black guy in order to learn a trade, that will actually help him feed himself.
in other words you're a pompous ass that downs wan t to teach his skill to others
Of course I have the ability. I've done it before, successfully. So bring on the funding.
People have trouble reading a tape measure. Hard to believe at first, but I believe it.
Well, today I drove around in Darke County out in the farmland and got away from these people for a few hours. It was quite refreshing.
Well, today I drove around in Darke County out in the farmland and got away from these people for a few hours. It was quite refreshing.
Normal business expenses. Material, labor, overhead, insurance, machinery, etc.
Once again not needed you can teach on current projects. And you don't give your own employees insurance and you're already paying insurance for your business I'm assuming so why more?
No. You don't get to use my assets such as table saws, routers, sanders, drills, spray equipment, compressors, building, electric, rent, etc.
Liability insurance.
Tell you what. Prove that and I'll give you every bit of it. If you can't you'll give everything you own to me. Deal, big mouth?
so you'd have to have an entire new shop for an apprentice? That's the dumbest damn thing I've ever heard
I dont want anything that belongs to you. Im happy with what i own and have earned. What is it with libs wanting everyone elses stuff?
Instead of betting me, why dont you give some of your time, equipment, and money to inner-city black kids like weve been discussing, hypocrite.
Then you must not be reading your own posts. Secondly, I've already did job training for about 30 people over the years. If you want me to do more of it, you're going to have to do it my way, not yours. Waiting on the funding..........
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Sure you want what I have. You've been asking for my time, money, and machinery throughout this thread. I'll make it sweeter for you since you're evidently too lazy to prove I inherited my assets. If you prove I inherited my assets, I'll not only give them to you, we will use my shop and those assets, and I'll perform the job training you request for free. If you can't prove that, you give me everything you own. How about it, big mouth?
So, since I've already done job training for approximately 30 people, it proves that I don't want to help people by doing it your way, and for free, using my money, material, building, and machinery. Got it, moron.
Do the people of Appalachia not count as minorities?
You shouldn't post Greed family photos. And no....white people don't count as minorities as it related to this discussion.
It's a better deal than I'd offer. You couldn't pay me to teach people to read a tape measure. Not worth it. I'd end up cussing them out, calling them an idiot and just doing the shit myself. Why I'll never supervise.
That statement makes absolutely no sense......Why wouldn't people look to our leaders to correct issues that they themselves (the leaders) caused, with decisions they made?
You think "many" have the power to correct these problems themselves? Is this the old, "hey, pull yourself up by your own boot straps" theory?
It makes perfect sense. "Leaders" can't do it all. Especially when it comes to individual decisions which can improve ones own life.
I am not surprised you can't wrap your mind around that. At the end of the day, no politician or political party walked into my home and enforced or insured my ultimate success. No one guaranteed me a job or insured I had one early in my working career. No politician or party created my business or guaranteed the paycheck was in the mail. It was on me to get it done.
It's not an "old theory". It's a proven process. If you've ever mentored someone you would know that even the mentor can't do the work. It's the responsibility of the mentee to make the decisions and take action to put the grind in to earn their desired result regardless of no guaranteed outcome.
The "true myth" that younger generations have come to believe is that someone can get it for you. Wake up. Those that succeed definitely have allies in their corner, but those allies (particularly if politicians) are not going to lead you to what you want to accomplish. Doesn't matter what level you start.
Govt has the greater power to fvck up what an individual wants to accomplish. Rarely do they make the problems they created less convoluted or more "equal".
No one said anything about doing it all.......And I don't need to wrap my head around your previous statement, it made zero sense. As a matter of fact it contradicted itself.
Your statement that "many" just need to get out there and do it is just out of touch. You may need to step out of the ivory tower and visit some inner city schools. Not everyone has the advantages that you and I grew up with.....Like one you mentioned above....A home.
Yep....Our leaders should just turn a blind eye or maybe just wave as they go by...."Get your head up young man or woman, you can do it". "Any assistance we might provide would only make you soft".
More liberal clichés by someone who has no real clue where I've come from, what I've done, what I do, or how I do it. For the sake of time I wont rip through my entire life or experience, but specifically in recent time, about 60% of my employees come from poor minority inner city public schools in Durham NC. I KNOW exactly the challenges they come up against. I personally know what they and their parents are going through. I've written several college semester tuition checks for student/employees who earned it over my 12 years in business. The GOVT didn't make sure they had the $$$ to go. My business partner and I did. The GOVT didn't grant them the guarantee to get in college....their work ethic and effort to study did. They didn't "have the advantages" either. But they ultimately made it happen for themselves. THEY EARNED IT. I was privileged to be a small part of the success they actually worked for.
"Visit a school.....Your Ivory tower". Pffft. LMAO. More "Disney Channel" references from someone apparently believing in govt provided utopias and unicorns.
No one is asking our leaders to turn a blind eye, Mr. Bleeding Heart. What we are asking for is that they get out of the way and quit making the shit worse. No one is suggesting that there be "no assistance" or safety net. What those of us with real experience understand is that there needs to be accountability for the assistance that is given, and a realization that blanket "govt assistance" creates a high risk for dependency with zero personal responsibility long term. Unfortunately its exactly the opposite of what govt delivers on a regular basis and our history is proving it.
Good for you......you should be applauded for your work with and for disadvantaged youth.....Again, the problem is you're in the minority. Too few businesses are willing to donate time and money......Hell.....Extragreen is perfect example of that, what's up with him.
I serve on the Board of a National non-profit that supports disadvantaged youth, mostly in the inner city. We have lost all of our Federal Funding and now rely on State and local grants, as well as the generosity of individuals. Problem is, we're competing against many, many other non-profits that also receive no funding.
Feds would rather build another prison or "rebuild" our military.
Other than the "Bleeding Heart" comment , I agree with your final paragraph.
I'm a firm believer that you should work for your assistance.....If you're able bodied, we've got plenty of trash that needs picked up, blighted areas that could be demo'd, and parks & playgrounds that should be sparkling.
Seriously? After I made the following statement...." I've already done job training for approximately 30 people." And then spending 15-18 years in coaching baseball and basketball. What exactly counts toward helping others?
I don't want to be applauded. The only reason I even shared this is because the blatant ignorant assumptions that people who share my opinion on this topic, are racists, have no understanding of "realities" and assume we "DO" nothing for those who have a need. They promote the racial stereotypes by blindly suggesting that a poor black kid doesn't have the ability to accomplish success unless master govt provides the way; or worse look at the successful black adult who made it out of the hood due to their efforts and openly call them a coon or Uncle Tom because they happen to believe and speak to how and what they actually accomplished.
Your latest response only reinforces a whole new discussion on the frivolous nature of a multitude of non profits in the non profit world. Having also served on a couple non profit boards I could type a lot more at the lunacy of many looking for free $$ from the govt. It speaks directly to my govt accountability belief. (Another discussion for another time).
With that said. The military is actually a required govt "benefit" to the people, that ultimately employees millions in various industries across the country and around the world and teaches skills, trades,professionalism, personal responsibility.
Frankly I am not in the minority. Another myth shared by those that repeat what they are told by (liberal) hypocrites like Greed. Their hypocrisy justifies the claims that "Govt needs to do it" because no one else will. Greed is actually in the minority. Millions of businesses do what I've done, and they do it everyday. And they do it because the person/people they support have Earned it. Not because govt makes them do it. A lot more could be done too. Again, govt....get off my back.
Again, I don't fault Greed for choosing to not provide training. It is his choice. What I find fault with is his hypocrisy in demanding someone else pay for his "efforts" of "generosity". Something you to also seem to support through your calls of "more govt" funding.
You can fund these programs all you want, but with no desire on their part to participate you're just wasting your money and really just donating to babysit some future derelicts.
So, greed refuses to help those he contends are being treated unfairly unless the gov. gives him a handout?
Did you spend 30 years training people for their benefit or yours? Hiring people to work for your company and then working to improve their skillset is not an act of generosity, it's a business necessity. What we are talking about is bringing in underprivileged youth and teaching them a skill knowing that there will be no real benefit to you except for the satisfaction of knowing you helped another person. Of course someone may be a natural and you would have the benefit of knowing that first and offering them a job, which would be a bonus for you, but that's not the goal of the proposed program. The goal would be to give someone a skill, teach them the discipline of work, and give them an improved sense of self worth.
The second point is that this is about minority training. Without lying, can you say you have ever had a black employee, trained a black person in your craft, or coached a black child in youth sports? You want to tell everyone what needs to be done, but like most liberals you either don't want to do it yourself or want to be paid to do the right thing.
Not looking good for your girl EG. Minnesota, PA, and Michigan all threatening to go red and still trending trump.
Because they are pawns to democrats thats why. Youve got your Big time Union Police chiefs (Democrats) and Admin in conflict with the Black population (Democrats). That is why Trump is suggesting they vote for him to get out of the Democrat Power struggle.
Except you want me to do it on YOUR terms.
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Yep, you wouldn't believe how much money I made coaching youth sports.
North Carolina and Florida are basically almost outside the margain of error in Trumps favor. Her campaign is collapsing at the end just like it did in 2008 against Obama. Shes just too fake and people can see it. You cant be in the biz for 30 years and then proclaim for change.
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