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The elephant in the room...Marshall basketball

Ok everyone has the opportunity to end up at the same destination in life. No matter how bumpy the road. Is that better?!?!?!
 
Ok everyone has the opportunity to end up at the same destination in life. No matter how bumpy the road. Is that better?!?!?!

No. Because it's not true. Do you know what the definition of opportunity is? Evidently not.
If everyone has the same opportunity to end up in the same destination, I want to know when you dudes are gonna be multi billionaires.
 
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Extra, where do you get the notion that I had the same childhood as everyone else...please explain that
 
Extra, also, please explain to me how my opportunities were different from those in my same community and
school district.
 
Too many people spend their entire lives screaming " I NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITIES " instead of saying " I CHOSE TO IGNORE MY OPPORTUNITIES ". We have some screamers on this board.
 
Extra, also, please explain to me how my opportunities were different from those in my same community and
school district.

You don't know what goes on in other peoples households so you cant say your opportunities was the same
 
Sounds like a parenting issue, Fev, not an educational opportunity. Once you get beyond that schoolhouse door, it becomes an opportunity for you to take advantage of
 
Not always, My friend that is going for his PhD, both of his parents are crackheads. Its not always parenting, its the will in you to be somebody. I mean look at me, my grammar isn't the greatest, I have dyslexia and ADD but I never allowed that to bring me down.
 
Still waiting for Extra to explain how MY opportunities were different from others in MY community and in MY school,
 
Extra, also, please explain to me how my opportunities were different from those in my same community and
school district.

Really? All the people had the same education, the same income, the same health, and a family that was exactly the same. Everyone's mom and dad were supportive of school, interests, sports, etc. in exactly the same measure. Nah
 
Congratulations to you and your friend going for his PhD. Is it safe to assume that both of you had role models of high character that far exceeded that of your parents. (A form of Remote-Parenting)
 
what if a kid didn't eat the night before or the last 3 or 4 nights, have no electricity or water, maybe they have absent parents or parents that deserted them. No 2 kids unless they are related have the same opportunities.
 
Congratulations to you and your friend going for his PhD. Is it safe to assume that both of you had role models of high character that far exceeded that of your parents. (A form of Remote-Parenting)

My mother IS my role model, To come here from another country, raise 2 boys on her own, put the both through school while also working multiple jobs and going through school herself, I don't need an outside role model.
 
Extre, that explains NOTHING...since we're discussing opportunities here...education, income, health...these are NOT opportunities. Parents being supportive of their kids' school, interests, and sports is Classic good parenting...a parenting issue...not an opportunity in and of itself. Don't confuse parenting issues with opportunities.

Poor parenting can stifle opportunities for their kids, just as good parenting can promote opportunities for kids.
 
Extre, that explains NOTHING...since we're discussing opportunities here...education, income, health...these are NOT opportunities. Parents being supportive of their kids' school, interests, and sports is Classic good parenting...a parenting issue...not an opportunity in and of itself. Don't confuse parenting issues with opportunities.

Poor parenting can stifle opportunities for their kids, just as good parenting can promote opportunities for kids.

You evidently STILL do not know what the definition of opportunity is. Since you refuse to look it up, I'll provide it

opportunity: a set of circumstances that makes it possible to do something.

Therefore, parenting, other family, environment, interests, education, health, sports, and ALL other conditions determine "circumstances that make it possible to do something".
 
Fev, sounds like your mother is a wonderful person and a great role model. You are truly lucky.

Kids not having food, water, electricity, absentee parents...big time suck...PARENTING Problems impacting on kids' lives...your opportunities to have a different and better life starts beyond those schoolhouse doors.
 
Fev, sounds like your mother is a wonderful person and a great role model. You are truly lucky.

Kids not having food, water, electricity, absentee parents...big time suck...PARENTING Problems impacting on kids' lives...your opportunities to have a different and better life starts beyond those schoolhouse doors.

Even Behind those school doors the opportunities aren't the same
 
I absolutely know the meaning of opportunity. I took full advantage of the opportunities in my life to better myself.
I did it by getting an education...the same education that was made available to ALL the kids in my area. Lots of kids chose to turn their backs on that education which resulted in many of them becoming losers.
 
Fev, how were the opportunities different behind those school doors?
 
I absolutely know the meaning of opportunity. I took full advantage of the opportunities in my life to better myself.
I did it by getting an education...the same education that was made available to ALL the kids in my area. Lots of kids chose to turn their backs on that education which resulted in many of them becoming losers.

If you know the definition, then quit using it incorrectly. No one is saying you didn't take advantage of your opportunities, and no one is saying that other people don't squander their opportunities. I am saying, and it's a fact, that not everyone has the same opportunities.
 
As stated previously, same books, same materials, same lectures, same opportunity to soak in some education.some in that room took advantage of the opportunity to learn, some in that room turned their backs on that opportunity
 
As stated previously, same books, same materials, same lectures, same opportunity to soak in some education.some in that room took advantage of the opportunity to learn, some in that room turned their backs on that opportunity

No, they didn't have the same set of circumstances as you. Some may have gone without breakfast, some may have gone without supper, some may have needed glasses they couldn't afford, some may have been unhealthy, some may have not had the same IQ, some may have had to work 6 hours after school each day, and the list is endless. There is no such thing as having the SAME opportunity. It doesn't exist.
 
Breakfast, supper, glasses, health... Sounds like parenting issues to me. IQ... Some say we go with what God gave us in that department, I Wii agree that a lower IQ might lower a person' opportunities, but it is NOT an opportunity of and by itself . If you worked 6 hours after school to help provide for the family, then that sounds like poor parenting by adults not being responsible enough to provide for their offspring. Poor choices by adults often impact on the kids lifestyle, but you can't deny that you still had the opportunity to go to school and get an education.
 
Extra, did you attend/graduate from Marshall? If yes, then you had the opportunity to get a college education.
 
There is no such thing as having the SAME opportunity. It doesn't exist.

LMAO. Then why do liberal politicians promise their voters that they will insure the same opportunity will be given for all if they are elected? Interesting. This is what Socialist Bernie is promising.
 
Breakfast, supper, glasses, health... Sounds like parenting issues to me. IQ... Some say we go with what God gave us in that department, I Wii agree that a lower IQ might lower a person' opportunities, but it is NOT an opportunity of and by itself . If you worked 6 hours after school to help provide for the family, then that sounds like poor parenting by adults not being responsible enough to provide for their offspring. Poor choices by adults often impact on the kids lifestyle, but you can't deny that you still had the opportunity to go to school and get an education.

Do you not understand that you can't separate opportunity and parenting? Parenting is a large part of opportunity. And yes, IQ is one part of "a set of circumstances that makes it possible to do something." Poor parenting doesn't affect the parent's opportunity, it affects the opportunities of the child. How can you not see that?
 
No, they didn't have the same set of circumstances as you. Some may have gone without breakfast, some may have gone without supper, some may have needed glasses they couldn't afford, some may have been unhealthy, some may have not had the same IQ, some may have had to work 6 hours after school each day, and the list is endless. There is no such thing as having the SAME opportunity. It doesn't exist.

Thank God I had opportunity and freedom and didn't get stuck working for some hayseed in Wayne County WV.
 
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