you wouldn't take them away but make them illegal? there are 20 million ar15's in this country, at least. there are probably 5 times that number of semi auto pistols.
you are going to turn those people into fellons?
The reality of gun control
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you are going to turn those people into fellons?
And that's when God gave everybody a rock and said "only a good guy with a rock can stop a bad guy with a rock."
I would stop the sale and make it illegal to carry and offer voluntary buybacks. IMO, trying to collect these weapons would be a debacle and mission impossible.
This isn't difficult. The bottom line for me - enough folks and especially children have been mass-murdered with these weapons that I no longer see the need for them. Not everyone agrees - I understand that.
Is that the weapon of choice of mass murderers? Those weapons aren't as deadly as assault rifles; probably the reason they aren't the weapon of choice for whack-job mass murderers.
For me, handguns make a ton more sense for self-defense than the AR-15.
In some cases but neither have they been the weapon of choice for a hostile media that is trying their best to affect public opinion.
If something kills, say 50 times the amount that something else does, isn't that a bigger problem?
Are you referring to something being used by private citizens to intentionally kill other private citizens? Just attempting to stay within the context of this discussion.
The 2A is the context of the discussion. I don't know the intent behind the cause of the deaths I am referring to.
So what you’re saying is some murder weapons are ok even though they kill more people because whack jobs
now do the same list of shootings utilizing hand guns. for ease, just multiply your examples above by 100; hell, maybe 1000.
see, this is the issue. AR's are scary looking, they've been used in a fraction of the number of murders that hand guns have. give you idiots the leniency to ban those scarry looking rifles and once that's done, you'll come back with . . . "well, 'assault rifles' have been banned and the number of murders haven't decreased. we must start looking at hand guns. we must ban hand guns!"
it'll never end until you're tied up on your hands and knees with an apple sticking out of your mouth and the governments crank shoved up your ass before you realize how bad of a mistake you've made by blindly following the MSM and your feelings, all the while attempting to mutter out the words, "if only we wouldn't have banned all weapons . . . "
Bingo. I can fire my 45 just as quick as an ar and I’m not shooting targets 500 yards away during a school shooting. If the libs were truly honest and they truly were against gun violence they would be screaming for a total gun ban. Those that do have more of my respect than people like Chevy that have a bull crap argument
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Democrats are scared
That's a declaration of war on the people
Screw that. We are not Australia
That's a declaration of war on the people
These left wing lunatics are after the most popular guns in America. Not just AR15's. Don't be fooled by them.
they are dangerous. You don't just give up the constitituion because thungs can't control themselves in Democrat cities. Or nut jobs shoot up schools.
That is not even what this about it. This is about them taking control.
they are dangerous. You don't just give up the constitituion because thungs can't control themselves in Democrat cities. Or nut jobs shoot up schools.
That is not even what this about it. This is about them taking control.
Another soft, unarmed target...
www.breitbart.com
Pentecost Massacre in Nigeria Claims the Lives of More Than 50 Christians
Presumed jihadists stormed a Catholic church in southwest Nigeria Sunday and opened fire on worshipers, killing at least 50. | Faith
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This is a complete hoax, although the look into the psyche of the writer is interesting. Wonder why they spent so much time thinking up those ideas.
psyche of the writer is interesting, indeed. they're spot on with A and they've nailed all of B with exception of "siezing power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible" and "confiscating [firearms] and leaving the population helpless". give those some time to either occur, or not.
Well, communism is a hoax that the ruling class perpetuates on its subjects. While the list may not actually have been found in Duesseldorf, what is necessarily inaccurate about it?
@HerdandHokies
You do realize there is a similar list included in the Congressional Record. And it was introduced by a Democrat. Look it up if you like or I can do it for you.
BTW did you research the House Post Office and banking scandals?
You do realize there is a similar list included in the Congressional Record. And it was introduced by a Democrat. Look it up if you like or I can do it for you.
BTW did you research the House Post Office and banking scandals?
Then it was a hoax when a Democrat entered it into the congressional record too.
I just googled it, as I was 4 at the time and more interested in Barney than Congress. I see a Republican was convicted of bribery, and Newt publicized it despite writing 22 bad checks himself, including to the IRS. And some Republican from Arkansas managed to write 996 bad checks. Is there something else I ought be pulling from the incident?
Liberals, always focusing on the exceptions and never seeing the rule...
At first glance I thought you posted Barney IN Congress...
Either way, that explains a lot...😉😅
For real the postal thing seems a lot worse than the check thing, and the postal thing had only Democrats involved from what I can tell.
I am interested in what you think of the check kiting thing, because it seems like (from a 10 minute glance) a general misunderstanding of what the bank of congress was and how it operated was exploited for political gain.
Both were significant abuses that I believe were the result of one party having control for over 40 years or whatever it was. Tom Foley became the face of that abuse and Congress was "de-Foleyated" as a result. I believe that was unprecedented for a sitting Speaker to be defeated.
Basically I believe the House Bank allowed its members to carry very large overdrafts, in essence interest free loans at a time when rates were up, for extended periods of time.
Both parties seemed to have participants, with the overwhelming majority being Democrats. Interestingly many of the participants continued to serve in Congress for years. Our local Congressman Chris Perkins actually served jail time for his involvement. Never understood why he and a few others were convicted and so many others weren't.
Chris Perkins (politician) - Wikipedia
BTW I've been told by many he is actually sincere and effective as a minister.
From what I can tell the bank was a cluster****. They took up to 2 months to record deposits and allowed people to overdraft as long as it was less than their next paycheck. They did it with pencil and paper, though I don’t know how common computerized banking was in 1992 (I would assume very common, but I don’t know.)
There were over 400 people who overdrafted, but they drew a (pretty arbitrary) line in the sand at 8 total months overdrafted and called out everyone who was above that, most of whom were Democrats. But I think it’s a fair question (that I don’t know the answer to) whether where to draw that line was a non-political decision, or if Newt and friends picked a time frame that would make the Democrats look as bad as possible. Draw it at 6 months and what’s the split?
From what I can tell, I don’t think anybody caught any charges for the banking scandal itself, but the investigation into it revealed things that got people charged.
There were over 400 people who overdrafted, but they drew a (pretty arbitrary) line in the sand at 8 total months overdrafted and called out everyone who was above that, most of whom were Democrats. But I think it’s a fair question (that I don’t know the answer to) whether where to draw that line was a non-political decision, or if Newt and friends picked a time frame that would make the Democrats look as bad as possible. Draw it at 6 months and what’s the split?
From what I can tell, I don’t think anybody caught any charges for the banking scandal itself, but the investigation into it revealed things that got people charged.
Well that should stop it. Everyone knows mass shooters are fanatical about taxes
Interested to hear where you got this information from as it appears to place more of the blame on the sloppiness of the House Bank itself rather than the actual guilty abusers of the system.
In 1992 the annual congressional salary was around $130k, or say $11k per month. Even at the 8 months that's an approximately $90k interest free loan.
At one time I saw a list of the overdrafts by amount. I wasn't able to find anything current but this is a pretty good article.
Caught In The Act
In the wake of the congressional check-bouncing scandal, members rushed forward to confess. But with voter outrage running high, many may be banished from their kingdom on the Hill.
www.newsweek.com
"the 66 most egregious offenders wrote about 20,000 rubber checks with a face value of $10,846,856."
This averages about $164k each, well more that their respective annual salaries.
Why don't Democrats really say why they are for gun control? If they cared for their own people they would enforce laws and go after gang bangers in their big cities they control. They don't. THere are existing laws on the books. In fact, many of those areas have some of the strictest gun laws.
They are wants guns to go away because it gives them even more power.
They are wants guns to go away because it gives them even more power.
