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The truth behind the '96 fiasco

Even if Pruett and Landon try to obstruct Doc, how the hell does that equate to 3-9? While causing stress to Doc and Hamrick behind the scenes, any Pruett influence wouldn't affect the shit OL, criminally under developed QB, crap ST's, middle school kicking game...

Blame Pruett if he's causing trouble. Blame the current staff because we can't beat teams who haven't even cut their teeth in FCS.
 
what about A. Ferguson's response to that tweet? he said MH wasn't even there that week. i mean, the idea of BP orchestrating this to stage a comeback at 73 just seems insane...
 
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Honestly how anyone can support pruett if this is true is baffling. I don't want to hear that he only wants what's best for Marshall. This is only about him and his legacy and this ruins everything he has accomplished in my mind
 
Connect the dots. You've got a six-week old story that suddenly became news with no mention, no hint, nothing from a group of team members that were so pissed they never want to come back? Add to that a football "legend" that got the ultimate snub (in his mind) after Snyder "resigned" and was public about wanting the job, add to that a 3-9 season and the seemingly vulnerable coaching staff from it. And the kickers? You've got a governor-elect that has former legend on the payroll and another local magnate that has the same legend and the schmuck boy writer on the payroll...Pruett had/ has one more shot at glory. This is it. It's not workin out how he wanted...move on Coach, retire in peace and let your legacy stand for itself. We all know your stint at Virginia was a mistake and we're willing to forget it and let you carry the title of coaching legend with you forever.
 
Um, age was never, Never an issue when Hamrick decided to hire an approaching 70 y.o. career high school coach, with NO college coaching experience in 40 years, to be the head basketball coach at MU. Perhaps just part of a "pattern", after previously having hired a football coach with 35 years of coaching experience in college with NONE being as a coordinator!! Maybe Hamrick just thinking way out of the box- - - Wonder if the MU head FB job was open and 76 y.o. Bill Snyder of Kansas State fame was seriously interested, how many, including Mike Hamrick, would be that concerned over Snyder's "age"??? Hell, half a century ago MU hired an aging, mid-fifty y.o. 50 guy who had been out of coaching altogether for about 15 years or so selling insurance as Head BB coach: Ellis Johnson. Brought the program, and fan base, to a level seldom duplicated in the 50+ years since!!!
 
Um, age was never, Never an issue when Hamrick decided to hire an approaching 70 y.o. career high school coach, with NO college coaching experience in 40 years, to be the head basketball coach at MU. Perhaps just part of a "pattern", after previously having hired a football coach with 35 years of coaching experience in college with NONE being as a coordinator!! Maybe Hamrick just thinking way out of the box- - - Wonder if the MU head FB job was open and 76 y.o. Bill Snyder of Kansas State fame was seriously interested, how many, including Mike Hamrick, would be that concerned over Snyder's "age"??? Hell, half a century ago MU hired an aging, mid-fifty y.o. 50 guy who had been out of coaching altogether for about 15 years or so selling insurance as Head BB coach: Ellis Johnson. Brought the program, and fan base, to a level seldom duplicated in the 50+ years since!!!

Ellis Johnson, who I personally liked, thumbed his nose at the rules of recruiting and he along with Perry Moss and a few well healed fans severely damaged the school's reputation and led to the school's dismissal from the MAC. At the end of Stew Smith's tenure and all of Roland Nelson's Old Main seemed asleep at the wheel and the shenanigans coming from Gullickson Hall were blatant. I always thought Nelson initially tried to clean up the mess but was cut off at the knees and he was gone in less than three years. I was being recruited during this time and it was common knowledge among other athletic depts.
 
IF Landon's article has any grain of truth to it, if fits a pattern with Doc. After all, he chased 92 title team member Phil Ratliff off his staff after holding him over from Snyder's staff.
 
what about A. Ferguson's response to that tweet? he said MH wasn't even there that week. i mean, the idea of BP orchestrating this to stage a comeback at 73 just seems insane...


That was completely false. Hamrick wasn't at the dinner Friday night because he attended his brother's retirement dinner in Charleston. Hamrick was there all day Saturday. The reason you didn't see him on the field with the '96 team is because he wasn't here during that time and he didn't feel like he deserved to be out there.
 
No way in hell Pruett has any plans to get back into coaching. People "in the know".....know.
Bob needs one more year of head coaching to be able to get into the college football Hall of Fame. Bob has one of, if not the highest winning pct. of any coach ever in the sport, but he has to have 10 years in as head coach. So, yes, he very much wants to coach again.
 
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Bob needs one more year of head coaching to be able to get into the college football Hall of Fame. Bob has one of, if not the highest winning pct. of any coach ever in the sport, but he has to have 10 years in as head coach. So, yes, he very much wants to coach again.
Then maybe he shouldn't hve quit in 2006
 
This is disgusting. Landon is a nut case. Pruett needs to let his legacy rest and leave it at that. I don't want Doc or Hamrick fired, they certainly don't deserve that. But they do need to fix this football program that we never see another 3-9 debacle again. Whether that means staff or roster changes, I don't care but there better be some noticeable changes or they will lose the fan base and support. Sad state of affairs.
 
When you consider the friends Pruett has in state government, this situation sounds to me a lot more like Bill Stewart than Bill Snyder.
 
BP did not really "quit". He resigned as a matter of honor due to the dishonest and incompetent actions of Satan's Vile Servant, KO Marcum. BP had threatened to go to Houston, which at the time was a huge step up, and was promised multiple upgrades to staff pay and facilies, including an IPF. Marcum annouced the IPF, lying to BP (and me and every other donor) and then LIED and denied that any such fund raising had ever taken place. Then Marcum saddled the program with a complance director who admited under oath that he had never ever read the rulebook he was supposed to be enforcing. BP played, as he should, the "him or me" card, and since no one at Old Main had the moral courage to have MUPD escort Marcum off University property, did the right thing.

Landon IS a nut case. He is a dark hearted bitter man with a failed personal life who has nothing left but to snipe at people who have actually acomplished something.

As BP stated in his depostion (filed, fantasticly, by above mentioned incompetent compliance director) he went to Virginia because he needed one year to qualify for a Virginia state pension based on his years coaching Virginia high schools. His plan all along was to coach the one year.

BP has been offered one-year head coaching stints at several place (it does not have to be DI) just to get in the HOF. He has turned these down.

Jimmy Justice has shown a life time of sports fandom, and, since he really will have little to do as governor (the Manchin-Rockefailure-Goodwin Machine will just tell him where to sign, really no more than an hour or two per week will be needed) he certainly might interfere in both Green and White and Blue and Chicken Yellow affairs, but, as noted, if BP and JJ are in cahoots with one another, then all BP needs is for JJ to make a call and there you go, which belies the idiotic conspiracy theory rants upon which this thread is based.

Maybe the Russians hacked the sideline pass system. The loonies seem to want to blame them for everything.
 
BP did not really "quit". He resigned as a matter of honor due to the dishonest and incompetent actions of Satan's Vile Servant, KO Marcum. BP had threatened to go to Houston, which at the time was a huge step up, and was promised multiple upgrades to staff pay and facilies, including an IPF. Marcum annouced the IPF, lying to BP (and me and every other donor) and then LIED and denied that any such fund raising had ever taken place. Then Marcum saddled the program with a complance director who admited under oath that he had never ever read the rulebook he was supposed to be enforcing. BP played, as he should, the "him or me" card, and since no one at Old Main had the moral courage to have MUPD escort Marcum off University property, did the right thing.

Landon IS a nut case. He is a dark hearted bitter man with a failed personal life who has nothing left but to snipe at people who have actually acomplished something.

As BP stated in his depostion (filed, fantasticly, by above mentioned incompetent compliance director) he went to Virginia because he needed one year to qualify for a Virginia state pension based on his years coaching Virginia high schools. His plan all along was to coach the one year.

BP has been offered one-year head coaching stints at several place (it does not have to be DI) just to get in the HOF. He has turned these down.

Jimmy Justice has shown a life time of sports fandom, and, since he really will have little to do as governor (the Manchin-Rockefailure-Goodwin Machine will just tell him where to sign, really no more than an hour or two per week will be needed) he certainly might interfere in both Green and White and Blue and Chicken Yellow affairs, but, as noted, if BP and JJ are in cahoots with one another, then all BP needs is for JJ to make a call and there you go, which belies the idiotic conspiracy theory rants upon which this thread is based.

Maybe the Russians hacked the sideline pass system. The loonies seem to want to blame them for everything.

Thanks for sharing. I had heard that is why Pruett left.
 
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He quit or he resigned are just semantics and his reasoning doesnt matter the fact is he quit and if the HoF was that important to him he would hve stayed on one more year. He could have done exactly what he did in this situation which was have landon air out all the dirty laundry instead he chose to take his ball and go home.
Hell we were told for 804859 years we would be getting a new student Rec center and that just happened less than 10 years ago
 
I think the folks in charge at Marshall chose KO Marcum over Pruett. See SAMS post below. Hell KO Marcum basically took money from the football program that people had donated and Pruett was promised.

Terrible mistake by the powers that be at the time

That IPF thing was the rottenest deal I have seen in college sports in my life. It was basically theft. IMHO someone should have been in federal court over it. How people have so quickly forgotten that is beyond me.
 
He quit or he resigned are just semantics and his reasoning doesnt matter the fact is he quit and if the HoF was that important to him he would hve stayed on one more year. He could have done exactly what he did in this situation which was have landon air out all the dirty laundry instead he chose to take his ball and go home.
Hell we were told for 804859 years we would be getting a new student Rec center and that just happened less than 10 years ago

Did you read the post below. That is what happened or close to it.

He basically said me or him or I am out of here. The school President says turn in your stuff. That is not quitting. Good Lord people, the school was basically stealing donated money.

We don't know if the Hall of Fame means two shit* to Pruett. I am sure if it did he could have landed a job even at a smaller school to ride into the HOF.
 
but, as noted, if BP and JJ are in cahoots with one another, then all BP needs is for JJ to make a call and there you go, which belies the idiotic conspiracy theory rants upon which this thread is based.
You know, this isn't Bill Stewart getting handed a vacant job after a bowl win, its a former coach trying to oust an entire freaking athletic department so he can be installed as the head football coach. It is not a foregone conclusion that Marshall would not refuse the request, even if it came from Justice, because going along with it opens the door to a tsunami of legal and financial issues, not to mention a serious black eye for the institution as a whole (good luck hiring the next coach).

This is a coach who knows he's got sainthood with the fans, that we've long-forgotten anything about his tenure that didn't involve tearing down goalposts. It was all Bob Marcum and David Ridpath's fault that he resigned on the first day of spring practices. It was Marshall Reynolds' fault for paying all those props and getting us sanctioned. It was Mark Snyder's fault that we were abysmal during the years where we played out those sanctions. Everybody is to blame but the guy who said, "Hey, I know it's the absolute worst possible time to do this, and its going to kill the program I've been paid to run, but screw it."

Personally, I'd only be okay with hiring Pruett back under two conditions:
1) We hire Jim Donnan to run the program for six years first
2) We get those Props some Mops
 
You know, this isn't Bill Stewart getting handed a vacant job after a bowl win, its a former coach trying to oust an entire freaking athletic department so he can be installed as the head football coach. It is not a foregone conclusion that Marshall would not refuse the request, even if it came from Justice, because going along with it opens the door to a tsunami of legal and financial issues, not to mention a serious black eye for the institution as a whole (good luck hiring the next coach).

This is a coach who knows he's got sainthood with the fans, that we've long-forgotten anything about his tenure that didn't involve tearing down goalposts. It was all Bob Marcum and David Ridpath's fault that he resigned on the first day of spring practices. It was Marshall Reynolds' fault for paying all those props and getting us sanctioned. It was Mark Snyder's fault that we were abysmal during the years where we played out those sanctions. Everybody is to blame but the guy who said, "Hey, I know it's the absolute worst possible time to do this, and its going to kill the program I've been paid to run, but screw it."

Personally, I'd only be okay with hiring Pruett back under two conditions:
1) We hire Jim Donnan to run the program for six years first
2) We get those Props some Mops

First of all most of this is all he said, she said. Second of all. I don't blame Pruett for what he did. The folks in charge were stealing money in my opinion. They should have never told him to clean his desk out.

Third, why are folks in the athletic dept now leaking this stuff if it did happen?

How do we even know Pruett wants to coach. We don't.
 
as noted, if BP and JJ are in cahoots with one another, then all BP needs is for JJ to make a call and there you go, which belies the idiotic conspiracy theory rants upon which this thread is based.

I guess you haven't been following along......The call and the meeting between JJ and Dr. Gilbert has already happened.......Doc is still our football coach and Mike Hamrick is still our AD.

Dr. Gilbert also extended an offer to Coach Pruett to meet after the 1st of the year. Coach Pruett requested that meeting happen immediately (as in last week). Dr. Gilbert continued to offer Jan. 3rd......That meeting may or may not take place, that's up to Coach Pruett.....But he is not going to be the football coach here again, ever.
 
It was all Bob Marcum and David Ridpath's fault that he resigned on the first day of spring practices. It was Marshall Reynolds' fault for paying all those props and getting us sanctioned. It was Mark Snyder's fault that we were abysmal during the years where we played out those sanctions.

Well, yes it was Marcum (LIAR) and Ridpath's (INCOMPETENT) fault. Marcum collected money for the IPF, spent it on unknown things, and the LIED TO MY FACE about it. He is garbage. He should be in federal prison for embezelment and obtaining money under false pretenses. And Ridpath, admitted under oath that he had NEVER READ the NCAA rulebook. He was some cronie of the Liar's with no business having the job he had. So, yes BP left because he told the school "him or me" and they picked the Liar. So, BP left, because of the Liar and one of the Liar's cronies.

No, the blame for all this "mops for props" trivium was no Mr. Reynolds, it was the incompetent KO cronie, Redpath. He admitted under oath he did not know if the practice was allowed or not. And that was his one and only job. A KO cronie.

And, yes, it was Suntan Man's (a KO cronie) fault. He was the coach, right? KO hired him because the people on BP's staff knew what was going on, that money had been collected and that it disappeared. So he found this unqualified guy who would go along to get along with the lies and, most probably, crimes of his. It was obvious from Jump Street this guy had no clue, but we suffered for FIVE LONG YEARS as KO refused to fire his cronie. Same thing going on in basketball as well under KO.

All of you fire the AD types need to compare MH's IPF (the one that actually exists) to the Liar's (the one where the money went poof). All you need to know.

Imagine where MU athletics would be had the Liar, KO Marcum, never darkened our door. MU would certainly not be in this version of CUSA. BP would probably be near to wrapping up one of the greatest careers in football history. And Dave Ridpath would be a night clerk at a Circle K somewhere on I-75 in Tennessee.
 
Ridpath left athletic dept in 2001. Stop blaming him for Pruett leaving 5 years later. Marcum was shit we all agree on that. Pruett should have made the admin fire him then why would look like the bad guy.
 
this shit is getting deep...

so what does BP hope to accomplish with the Gilbert meeting? does he still want to be coach?

this seems like an episode of Ancient Aliens...
 
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this shit is getting deep...

so what does BP hope to accomplish with the Gilbert meeting? does he still want to be coach?

this seems like an episode of Ancient Aliens...

Answers have already been given...It's an attempt to mend some fences, if that is possible...It is also a courtesy meeting.
 
Answers have already been given...It's an attempt to mend some fences, if that is possible...It is also a courtesy meeting.

so BP isn't still trying to oust MH and Doc?

has the redshirted freshman QB from the '96 team said anything about any of this?
 
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so BP isn't still trying to oust MH and Doc?

has the redshirted freshman QB from the '96 team said anything about any of this?

He gave it a shot.....I don't know if he's still "trying".

Chad isn't the type to air his issues in public.
 
BP did not really "quit". He resigned as a matter of honor due to the dishonest and incompetent actions of Satan's Vile Servant, KO Marcum. BP had threatened to go to Houston, which at the time was a huge step up, and was promised multiple upgrades to staff pay and facilies, including an IPF. Marcum annouced the IPF, lying to BP (and me and every other donor) and then LIED and denied that any such fund raising had ever taken place. Then Marcum saddled the program with a complance director who admited under oath that he had never ever read the rulebook he was supposed to be enforcing. BP played, as he should, the "him or me" card, and since no one at Old Main had the moral courage to have MUPD escort Marcum off University property, did the right thing.

Landon IS a nut case. He is a dark hearted bitter man with a failed personal life who has nothing left but to snipe at people who have actually acomplished something.

As BP stated in his depostion (filed, fantasticly, by above mentioned incompetent compliance director) he went to Virginia because he needed one year to qualify for a Virginia state pension based on his years coaching Virginia high schools. His plan all along was to coach the one year.

BP has been offered one-year head coaching stints at several place (it does not have to be DI) just to get in the HOF. He has turned these down.

Jimmy Justice has shown a life time of sports fandom, and, since he really will have little to do as governor (the Manchin-Rockefailure-Goodwin Machine will just tell him where to sign, really no more than an hour or two per week will be needed) he certainly might interfere in both Green and White and Blue and Chicken Yellow affairs, but, as noted, if BP and JJ are in cahoots with one another, then all BP needs is for JJ to make a call and there you go, which belies the idiotic conspiracy theory rants upon which this thread is based.

Maybe the Russians hacked the sideline pass system. The loonies seem to want to blame them for everything.

jesus, are you just lying on purpose?
 
I remember getting absolutely roasted on here like ten years ago for posting a story about Bob Pruett being in line in front of me at the 3rd Avenue Speedway when I was in college, buying 100 lottery tickets and telling the cashier how much he'd love to retire. People went nuts on me for insinuating that Pruett would ever want to be anything but Marshall's head coach, even though I was telling this story years after Pruett's abrupt "retirement."

Looking back, the story is real....I mean, that did actually happen. But maybe those folks were right after all. I will say this: homeboy definitely thought the job would always be his to reclaim. He came back in 2009 and made a play, and now here he is trying again.

Bob Pruett don't give a f--- about anything but Bob Pruett.
 
There's a lot more truth in there than you are willing to believe.

there are so many inaccuracies in his post that are quite easy to point out like the fact that marcum saddled pruett with an incompetent compliance director. ridpath was hired 5 years before kayo came back to marshall and had left and moved on to other opportunities by the time kayo came back. marcum actually didn't hire a compliance director during the years his tenure overlapped with pruett's. we hired reed prior to kayo coming back and he didn't leave until 2007.

also, marcum didn't cancel the ipf. that was done by the bog after dan angel misspent money which led to his resignation and kopp being hired. there was no denial that fundraising never existed, it was acknowledged that it existed, but dan angel had transferred it to other projects and it wasn't there anymore.

coach pruett and marcum had a wonderful relationship and still do. marcum was in pruett's corner and tried to talk him out of retiring/resigning several times, actually tried to talk him into taking it back after the fact and coming back.

seriously, half his rant is about marcum hiring and supporting ridpath. that's so easy to disprove.
 
there are so many inaccuracies in his post that are quite easy to point out like the fact that marcum saddled pruett with an incompetent compliance director. ridpath was hired 5 years before kayo came back to marshall and had left and moved on to other opportunities by the time kayo came back. marcum actually didn't hire a compliance director during the years his tenure overlapped with pruett's. we hired reed prior to kayo coming back and he didn't leave until 2007.

also, marcum didn't cancel the ipf. that was done by the bog after dan angel misspent money which led to his resignation and kopp being hired. there was no denial that fundraising never existed, it was acknowledged that it existed, but dan angel had transferred it to other projects and it wasn't there anymore.

coach pruett and marcum had a wonderful relationship and still do. marcum was in pruett's corner and tried to talk him out of retiring/resigning several times, actually tried to talk him into taking it back after the fact and coming back.

seriously, half his rant is about marcum hiring and supporting ridpath. that's so easy to disprove.


Not sure how you get Marcum tried to talk Pruett into coming back. Pruett tried to recind his resignation and was told to kick rocks. That's pretty common knowledge around here.
 
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I remember getting absolutely roasted on here like ten years ago for posting a story about Bob Pruett being in line in front of me at the 3rd Avenue Speedway when I was in college, buying 100 lottery tickets and telling the cashier how much he'd love to retire. People went nuts on me for insinuating that Pruett would ever want to be anything but Marshall's head coach, even though I was telling this story years after Pruett's abrupt "retirement."

Looking back, the story is real....I mean, that did actually happen. But maybe those folks were right after all. I will say this: homeboy definitely thought the job would always be his to reclaim. He came back in 2009 and made a play, and now here he is trying again.

Bob Pruett don't give a f--- about anything but Bob Pruett.

So you saw Bob Pruett buying lottery tickets and he was chatting up with small talk at cashier about wanting to retire?

Wow, there is some real scoop there. LMAO

What the hell is the point of that story.

I am the number 1 sales rep in my company and if I hit it big in the lottery I would retire too and I am not even 50.Hell, I am told my boss that and he has told me the same thing.
 
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Not sure how you get Marcum tried to talk Pruett into coming back. Pruett tried to recind his resignation and was told to kick rocks. That's pretty common knowledge around here.

The interim President (Ferrell) at that time ultimately made the call.
 
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