Top Group of 5 Head Coaching Jobs According to ESPN
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Of course we're one of the top G5 jobs. Brand new 40k seat stadium that's expandable to 60k, huge recruiting base, our pedigree for producing quarterbacks and the fact that we can pay 2 million for a coach among many other reasons.
Plus it's not hard to recruit with this.
Plus it's not hard to recruit with this.
Houston being on this list is ridiculous. They have zero fan support and are in the middle of one of the biggest cities in America. The rest I'm good with.
Right, because the #1 thing recruits look for in a school are highly photo shopped/overly exposed time lapse photos of high-rise office buildings.Originally posted by CougarKing:
Of course we're one of the top G5 jobs. Brand new 40k seat stadium that's expandable to 60k, huge recruiting base, our pedigree for producing quarterbacks and the fact that we can pay 2 million for a coach among many other reasons.
Plus it's not hard to recruit with this.
The thing I can't figure out is why we've had better recruiting classes than you the past two years.
40,000 seat half empty stadiums where UTSA kicks your butt in your opening are also a great draw.
They're not in a power conference or have a comparable P5 deal for bowls like Notre Dame does as an independent. BYU is de facto G5.
If we have "zero" fan support, then what does that say about Marshall since our football attendance is better? There's a reason why Houston is often mentioned in P5 expansion while Marshall can't even get into the AAC.
According to the NCAA stats you're WRONG. And I know this is fromthe 2013 season. Official 2014 haven't even released yet
Ncaa attendance figures
Why would the B12 want Houston? That's hilarious. With 2 million plus in the Houston area you should outdraw Marshall. The fact that you don't in B'ball and don't sell out your stadium for football speaks volumes about how the area views your program. Face facts dude!
Marshall 2013 attendance- 25,023 per game. Huntington's population- 50k
Houston 2013 attendance- 24,256 per game. Houston's population- 2.2 million
Houston 2013 attendance- 24,256 per game. Houston's population- 2.2 million
Well a couple things the Houston pic is not photo shopped, I live here and that's what it looks like, the overly done time lapse is a bit much though.
2nd When you discuss population you should include the outlying areas also because much of the student base will come from those areas too. Not sure how much would be added to Huntington (maybe 15 or 20K), but I do know you would add at least 1 million here in Houston.
2nd When you discuss population you should include the outlying areas also because much of the student base will come from those areas too. Not sure how much would be added to Huntington (maybe 15 or 20K), but I do know you would add at least 1 million here in Houston.
If downtown skylines draw recruits, Houston should be overtaking Alabama any day now.
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Yeah, they have always been a bunch of uppity bitches. If our recruiting area were stronger, I believe we would be on the list with our improvements on the field and facility-wise, but FBS prospects in WV are few and far between most years.
Well, they were part of the old SWC at one time.
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ESPN says:
ESPN client Boise State Community.
ESPN client BYU
ESPN client Cincinnati
ESPN client Houston
ESPN client Central Florida Community
Reality?
Boise State Community's act we have seen. ESPN would like the "little engine that could" story to remain in one place. It doesn't. It moves around. And when Boise State Community falls to earth, and it will, it returns to being a nothing truck drivers and plumbing trade school in the middle of nowhere.
BYU is not even in the "Group of 5". It is an independent.
Cincinnati GIVES AWAY tickets to its games, because no one cares. Reds first, Buckeyes second, (Big Blue in the suburbs), Bengals third, where you really went to school fourth, Notre Dame fifth, Cincy, not at all.
Houston. A city of whatever million. All but about 47 of which could not possibly care less about the local college for those thin enveloped by Texas and TAMU. Ever seen the "crowd" at one of its games? Laughable.
Central Florida Community. 55K students. Of which maybe 2000 go to Erector Set Field for a game. A microscopic dot of black and yellow in an ocean of Garnet and Gold and Blue and Orange. No one cares. No one has ever cared. No one will ever care.
And they mentioned 1-11 SMU.
A laughable article written by a fool.
ESPN client Boise State Community.
ESPN client BYU
ESPN client Cincinnati
ESPN client Houston
ESPN client Central Florida Community
Reality?
Boise State Community's act we have seen. ESPN would like the "little engine that could" story to remain in one place. It doesn't. It moves around. And when Boise State Community falls to earth, and it will, it returns to being a nothing truck drivers and plumbing trade school in the middle of nowhere.
BYU is not even in the "Group of 5". It is an independent.
Cincinnati GIVES AWAY tickets to its games, because no one cares. Reds first, Buckeyes second, (Big Blue in the suburbs), Bengals third, where you really went to school fourth, Notre Dame fifth, Cincy, not at all.
Houston. A city of whatever million. All but about 47 of which could not possibly care less about the local college for those thin enveloped by Texas and TAMU. Ever seen the "crowd" at one of its games? Laughable.
Central Florida Community. 55K students. Of which maybe 2000 go to Erector Set Field for a game. A microscopic dot of black and yellow in an ocean of Garnet and Gold and Blue and Orange. No one cares. No one has ever cared. No one will ever care.
And they mentioned 1-11 SMU.
A laughable article written by a fool.
SamC is jealous because all of those schools are in better conferences, have better attendance and will go P5 long before Marshall ever does. What makes it even funnier is that you and all of the Marshall fans DESPERATELY want to be in a conference with these schools yet none of them want you.
Sam, your envy over anything placed higher than Marshall continues to paint you as the board moron.
When Boise falls to earth? They've been able to keep up that "act" for 16 seasons with three different coaches. After that long, it isn't an act, but a realistic portrayal of their program. All top programs stumble; look at Florida, Alabama, Texas, michigan, and Ohio State over the same 16 years. Yet, Boise has gone much longer than those without stumbling. And claiming they are in the middle of nowhere? Those who rave about the state of West Virginia (in defense of marshall) talk about the beauty of the mountains and outdoor appeal. Boise blows away Huntington in those categories. Those who have lived in Boise and left, absolutely hated having to leave it.
UCF's campus is phenomenal. Their master plan has been fulfilled perfectly. The restaurants, shopping, and gyms they have on campus are great. Their dorms, class buildings, and athletic facilities are very, very nice and right in the heart of the campus. The activities they always have for their students and community is great. As a Marshall alum, I would be thrilled if Marshall had just a small fraction of what UCF does as an overall university. If I were a high school athlete being recruited, it would be very hard to turn down UCF. I was there yesterday and amazed at everything they have to offer. Oh, and the erector set joke is tired and inaccurate. As a brand new stadium, they hadn't had the time to complete all of the aesthetics of it when those jokes started. With the added brick on the outside and the ring of lighted palm trees, it is a nice looking stadium.
houston has a brand new stadium, a new coaching staff, in a great recruiting area, in a better conference, in a better city to recruit to, can afford far better salaries, and averaged more fans than Marshall this year. So, tell me again why they shouldn't be ahead of Marshall on the list?
SMU has the potential to be a great job. Their stadium is in the middle of campus in a beautiful and wealthy part of a great city. The campus is beautiful, the alums are wealthy, and they pay well. It is a great recruiting area. They can pay well. Their attendance has been awful. The new coaching blood came in and stole a bunch of recruits from schools they had been losing to recently. That has great potential.
When Boise falls to earth? They've been able to keep up that "act" for 16 seasons with three different coaches. After that long, it isn't an act, but a realistic portrayal of their program. All top programs stumble; look at Florida, Alabama, Texas, michigan, and Ohio State over the same 16 years. Yet, Boise has gone much longer than those without stumbling. And claiming they are in the middle of nowhere? Those who rave about the state of West Virginia (in defense of marshall) talk about the beauty of the mountains and outdoor appeal. Boise blows away Huntington in those categories. Those who have lived in Boise and left, absolutely hated having to leave it.
UCF's campus is phenomenal. Their master plan has been fulfilled perfectly. The restaurants, shopping, and gyms they have on campus are great. Their dorms, class buildings, and athletic facilities are very, very nice and right in the heart of the campus. The activities they always have for their students and community is great. As a Marshall alum, I would be thrilled if Marshall had just a small fraction of what UCF does as an overall university. If I were a high school athlete being recruited, it would be very hard to turn down UCF. I was there yesterday and amazed at everything they have to offer. Oh, and the erector set joke is tired and inaccurate. As a brand new stadium, they hadn't had the time to complete all of the aesthetics of it when those jokes started. With the added brick on the outside and the ring of lighted palm trees, it is a nice looking stadium.
houston has a brand new stadium, a new coaching staff, in a great recruiting area, in a better conference, in a better city to recruit to, can afford far better salaries, and averaged more fans than Marshall this year. So, tell me again why they shouldn't be ahead of Marshall on the list?
SMU has the potential to be a great job. Their stadium is in the middle of campus in a beautiful and wealthy part of a great city. The campus is beautiful, the alums are wealthy, and they pay well. It is a great recruiting area. They can pay well. Their attendance has been awful. The new coaching blood came in and stole a bunch of recruits from schools they had been losing to recently. That has great potential.
I must say I agree with you on all counts, I too have been to all these places and you have described them perfectly
Since on the topic, I visited two other campuses over the last few days. USF Is really bad. Their campus is a big stretch of land along a very busy road. But, that busy road isn't in an area that features anything nice. The actual campus is poorly put together. They have a ton of space, but all of the architecture and materials used are a mix-match of old and new. Their recently renovated basketball arena looks nice. Their baseball stadium and some other athletic facilities are good. They have a great student rec center. But, their overall athletic building is bad. Their attempt at a hall of fame isn't good. Their football practice facilities are nice (two grass practice fields, a full turf field, and a mini turf field) and well manicured, but they lack anything with a wow factor. Their stadium is a 30 minute drive from campus. Their students, at least in their short history, have shown they will support a winning team well. But, it's hard to travel an hour round trip to support a loser. It makes you really appreciate what Jim Leavitt was able to do there in getting them to a #2 national ranking years ago. As it is now, I have no idea why a kid would pick there instead of UCF, and possibly, even FAU.
I also toured the university of tampa's campus. They are D2 and don't play football. Being a very urban campus, I didn't expect much. I was completely wrong. It was one of the best campuses I have ever seen. The quality of their athletic buildings are astounding. The dorms and food options are absurd. They have a huge, beautiful building which was once a premier hotel built in 1890 as classrooms. Their baseball, soccer, lacrosse, field hockey, and basketball facilities are all on campus downtown and all done well. I took pictures of what they have in their athletic building. It trumps plenty of FBS football playing schools. The tampa river runs through campus which allows for an even more unique setting. They have a boathouse which students live in on the water which allows them to watch dolphins in the river while having the tampa skyline hundreds of yards in the background. Their outdoor pool is a great spot on campus. It's a pretty expensive private school, but I still don't know how they can afford all they have with such a small enrollment. I was told that they have three #1 teams in the nation in D2 right now including baseball.
I haven't seen Marshall's new offerings in person. But, seeing what just a D2 non-football school has compared to what I last saw at Marshall really makes you appreciate the talent doc has been able to recruit to Huntington. I think Marshall holds its own with facilities compared to the rest of C-USA, but Huntington doesn't offer what a lot of these other schools can, which is another feather in the cap of what the football staff has accomplished.
I also toured the university of tampa's campus. They are D2 and don't play football. Being a very urban campus, I didn't expect much. I was completely wrong. It was one of the best campuses I have ever seen. The quality of their athletic buildings are astounding. The dorms and food options are absurd. They have a huge, beautiful building which was once a premier hotel built in 1890 as classrooms. Their baseball, soccer, lacrosse, field hockey, and basketball facilities are all on campus downtown and all done well. I took pictures of what they have in their athletic building. It trumps plenty of FBS football playing schools. The tampa river runs through campus which allows for an even more unique setting. They have a boathouse which students live in on the water which allows them to watch dolphins in the river while having the tampa skyline hundreds of yards in the background. Their outdoor pool is a great spot on campus. It's a pretty expensive private school, but I still don't know how they can afford all they have with such a small enrollment. I was told that they have three #1 teams in the nation in D2 right now including baseball.
I haven't seen Marshall's new offerings in person. But, seeing what just a D2 non-football school has compared to what I last saw at Marshall really makes you appreciate the talent doc has been able to recruit to Huntington. I think Marshall holds its own with facilities compared to the rest of C-USA, but Huntington doesn't offer what a lot of these other schools can, which is another feather in the cap of what the football staff has accomplished.
I moved to Orlando back in October. One of the first things I did was drive over and look around UCF because I had never been there. I walked away from my visit hating them even more than I already did and the reason why was pure jealousy.. That campus is one of the nicest campuses I have ever been on.. It's not even really a campus, it's like a small city. If UCF students never want to leave campus they could realistically do that and still be able to enjoy everything you can imagine a college student wanting to enjoy.. Really a fantastic looking school.
This post was edited on 2/27 3:18 PM by Trebel06
This post was edited on 2/27 3:18 PM by Trebel06
#1: We have more fans at games than you.
#2: We do it with a shitload less of a population than you. You have 50x our population and still get less attendance. Even the people in your own city know you're irrelevant, so why don't you?
